NFL Thread 2019-2020

[Hards Alumni]

A relative who is a Bears fan determined that the Bears did because the two guys the Raiders drafted with the first-round picks they acquired (Jacobs, Arnette) were taken too high each year.

I told him that's not really how it works. You have to look at all the guys the Bears could have drafted. Plus, Jacobs certainly looks more than decent so far. Too early to tell.

I say all that knowing you were just being sarcastic, jes, but what the heck.

Lol, the Bear 100% won that trade.

[Hards Alumni]

FML

[GB Warrior]

Thank God the Packers have Funchess

[Jockey]

I think Gutey's hero must be Jerry Krause. Seems like he wants to build a team he can get credit for.

2 picks and I don't see any improvement for the team this year.  Rookie QB won't play at all and Dillon won't play much.

[CreightonWarrior]

So we blow our first two picks on positions we don't need. Wtf.

Draft Love to replace Rodgers in a few years. Draft these did so they don't need to pay Jones in a year.

There are very clear holes for this team. Have they already thrown in the towel for next season? If Gutes fails Murphy is gone too.

[Pakuni]

Dillon had 850 carries in college.
That's ... a lot.

[Pakuni]

Lol, the Bear 100% won that trade.

Bears are going to love having almost 15 percent of their 2021 and 2022 caps tied up in a defensive player on the wrong side of 30.
But it'll all be worth it with these playoff wins their racking up in the early years of the contract.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Bears are going to love having almost 15 percent of their 2021 and 2022 caps tied up in a defensive player on the wrong side of 30.
But it'll all be worth it with these playoff wins their racking up in the early years of the contract.

Doesn't bother me, cause ya know, he's Khalil Mack.

[GB Warrior]

So we blow our first two picks on positions we don't need. Wtf.

Draft Love to replace Rodgers in a few years. Draft these did so they don't need to pay Jones in a year.

There are very clear holes for this team. Have they already thrown in the towel for next season? If Gutes fails Murphy is gone too.

Really wanted Gibson who went 2 picks later to Wash.

And yes, I think their fates are tied.

[Johnny B]

Congrats on my former high school teammate for being drafted by the saints. Crazy

[CreightonWarrior]

Espn tragedy porn fun facts about players has been absolutely disgusting. Broadcasting all these deaths and then, for Tee Higgins, broadcasting that his mom has struggled with drug addiction. Just terrible.

[Hards Alumni]

Espn tragedy porn fun facts about players has been absolutely disgusting. Broadcasting all these deaths and then, for Tee Higgins, broadcasting that his mom has struggled with drug addiction. Just terrible.

+1  Its awful.

[Hards Alumni]

So we blow our first two picks on positions we don't need. Wtf.

Draft Love to replace Rodgers in a few years. Draft these did so they don't need to pay Jones in a year.

There are very clear holes for this team. Have they already thrown in the towel for next season? If Gutes fails Murphy is gone too.

We going back to the 70s and 80s baby.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

It's nice not having the worst draft class on paper for a chance. But actually, wtf are the Packers doing?

[forgetful]

So we blow our first two picks on positions we don't need. Wtf.

Draft Love to replace Rodgers in a few years. Draft these did so they don't need to pay Jones in a year.

There are very clear holes for this team. Have they already thrown in the towel for next season? If Gutes fails Murphy is gone too.

Putting Dillon and Jones in the backfield together creates some dangerous weapon options. Dillon is big enough to be a lead blocker, but he's more than good enough to run it at an elite level.

That means you can run them out together, split Jones out to a receiver, and Dillon can still pound it down the middle. Gives a lot of options out of different sets. Or play option screens. Fake handoff to Dillon, screen pass to Jones. Dillon is elite enough that you have to respect him. You also can spell Jones, so he isn't taking too much pounding. Dillon will make Jones better.

Also, last year we couldn't get those 2nd and 1, 3rd and 1, 4th and 1 conversions. They were killer. Dillon is going to pick them up.

Was pissed with it initially for similar reasons as you. But they got a solid TE in the 3rd, and there weren't great options at receiver at that point. I'm now more optimistic on the pick.

[JWags85]

Espn tragedy porn fun facts about players has been absolutely disgusting. Broadcasting all these deaths and then, for Tee Higgins, broadcasting that his mom has struggled with drug addiction. Just terrible.

It was unreal. The best joke I saw tonight was that apparently you are only a top 3 round draft pick if you're parent is a former NFL player or coach or someone in your immediate family is no longer living

[GB Warrior]

It was unreal. The best joke I saw tonight was that apparently you are only a top 3 round draft pick if you're parent is a former NFL player or coach or someone in your immediate family is no longer living

https://twitter.com/MikeBeauvais/status/1253851118230220801?s=19

[Hards Alumni]

Putting Dillon and Jones in the backfield together creates some dangerous weapon options. Dillon is big enough to be a lead blocker, but he's more than good enough to run it at an elite level.

That means you can run them out together, split Jones out to a receiver, and Dillon can still pound it down the middle. Gives a lot of options out of different sets. Or play option screens. Fake handoff to Dillon, screen pass to Jones. Dillon is elite enough that you have to respect him. You also can spell Jones, so he isn't taking too much pounding. Dillon will make Jones better.

Also, last year we couldn't get those 2nd and 1, 3rd and 1, 4th and 1 conversions. They were killer. Dillon is going to pick them up.

Was pissed with it initially for similar reasons as you. But they got a solid TE in the 3rd, and there weren't great options at receiver at that point. I'm now more optimistic on the pick.

You're a glass half full guy and that's nice.  Currently, I'm a glass is on the floor and shattered kind of guy.  Massive needs at LB, WR, and OL... and DL.  But we got backups and redundancies.

[MU82]

I have applauded college athletes like Christian McCaffrey and Leonard Fournette for deciding to skip their team's bowl games so they wouldn't jeopardize their professional futures.

And now, I applaud Derrick Brown, the Panthers' first-round draft pick.

The Charlotte Observer said that during his first tele-press-conference with the NC media, "he spoke with a matter-of-factness about his decision to turn down millions and return to college for his senior season. And then his decision, after that one, to play in Auburn's bowl game last season instead of sitting it out to avoid the prospect of injury. The first decision, about coming back to school, was about his desire to earn his degree, which he did, in business. The second decision, about playing in the bowl game, was about his desire to finish what he started."

He made both decisions against the unsolicited advice of some who said he was "stupid" or "shortsighted" to risk his professional future.

To me, there are no "wrong" decisions in this realm. I am all for each athlete (along with his family) deciding what he feels is best for himself. If that means skipping a meaningless football exhibition, great. If that means playing in that game, fantastic. If it means leaving school early, wonderful. If it means staying 4 years, super. I'm not sure why any of those decisions bug outsiders so much.

This discussion frequently bleeds over to Hangin' at the Al, in which all of us Scoop geniuses tell young basketball players what they "should" do. "Should" Karim Mane go pro? "Should" he go to Marquette? Well, he "should" do what he wants to do, even if some of us might not understand the decision.

[Pakuni]

Doesn't bother me, cause ya know, he's Khalil Mack.

Must be how Bears fans comforted themselves in the 70s and early 80s ... "Yeah, we're thoroughly mediocre and are running Bob Avellini and Vince Evans out there at quarterback, but, ya know,, Walter Payton!"

[The Sultan]

Well, having Walter Payton was better than not having Walter Payton.  So yeah...

The question is would the Bears have done better with those draft picks versus having Mack?  My guess is they are probably better off with Mack.  They wouldn't have won the division in 2018 without him.

And the Raiders were probably better off with the picks than with an unhappy Mack.

Trades don't always have winners and losers.  Sometimes they are mutually beneficial.  I think this one falls into that category.

[MU82]

Well, having Walter Payton was better than not having Walter Payton.  So yeah...

The question is would the Bears have done better with those draft picks versus having Mack?  My guess is they are probably better off with Mack.  They wouldn't have won the division in 2018 without him.

And the Raiders were probably better off with the picks than with an unhappy Mack.

Trades don't always have winners and losers.  Sometimes they are mutually beneficial.  I think this one falls into that category.

Reasonable.

Were I the Bears GM, I would have made that Mack trade every time. And I think many other teams' GMs would have done so, too.

Now the Trubisky deal ... that's another thing entirely.

[forgetful]

You're a glass half full guy and that's nice.  Currently, I'm a glass is on the floor and shattered kind of guy.  Massive needs at LB, WR, and OL... and DL.  But we got backups and redundancies.

I'm trying my best.

Right now I'm hoping they maybe trade up into the early 5th round to grab Proche. I think he'd be solid out of the slot. A good possession receiver, could be an Edelman type receiver.

[Hards Alumni]

I'm trying my best.

Right now I'm hoping they maybe trade up into the early 5th round to grab Proche. I think he'd be solid out of the slot. A good possession receiver, could be an Edelman type receiver.

Heh, I was hoping for Collin Johnson... but he gowne now.

[forgetful]

Heh, I was hoping for Collin Johnson... but he gowne now.

Well we still don't have a WR.