NFL Thread 2019-2020

[Pakuni]

Giving an NFL GM only two years is insane.  Draft picks can take awhile to pan out.

I'm not arguing for or against his firing (well, technically he quit), but rather the idea that Haslam forced out a guy who'd been doing his job well.
Dorsey made splashy moves that allowed the Browns seem relevant again, but a lot of those moves are looking uncertain at best, and in some cases just plain bad. The Browns are better now than when he was hired- it would be nearly impossible to be worse - but they're not in a good place either.

[The Sultan]

WTH are the Cowboys doing with Garrett? 

[The Sultan]

I'm not arguing for or against his firing (well, technically he quit), but rather the idea that Haslam forced out a guy who'd been doing his job well.
Dorsey made splashy moves that allowed the Browns seem relevant again, but a lot of those moves are looking uncertain at best, and in some cases just plain bad. The Browns are better now than when he was hired- it would be nearly impossible to be worse - but they're not in a good place either.

I actually don't agree with this. I think they are a good coach away from a playoff type of run. They have the NFC East and AFC South as opponents along with the Raiders and Jets. I think a soft schedule is a big reason why the Bills made a run this year and that Cleveland can do that next year.

[Pakuni]

I actually don't agree with this. I think they are a good coach away from a playoff type of run. They have the NFC East and AFC South as opponents along with the Raiders and Jets. I think a soft schedule is a big reason why the Bills made a run this year and that Cleveland can do that next year.

Maybe you're right, but two thoughts:

- Kitchens was the biggest problem in Cleveland, but far from the only problem. Baker was bad, and you can't pin that all on Kitchens (they same guy who was calling plays when Baker looked good last year). The OL is a mess, and the team doesn't have much draft capital to fix it. Who knows what happens with Garrett next. Or Landry or OBJ.
There are serious issues there beyond the head coach.
- the schedule may not be as easy as you think. The Ravens look set up for a long run and Pittsburgh will be much better with an actual NFL quarterback. The Jets and Raiders were better than the Browns this year, and the latter has a young roster and 5 picks in the top 100, so should improve.

Time will tell, I guess.

[hairy worthen]

WTH are the Cowboys doing with Garrett?

Is it possible they bring him back? What  a cluster F. He should have been fired 5 years ago and even now Jones is hemming and hawing. Pull the band aid off quickly Jerra.

[GB Warrior]

As Fluffy mentioned with Cleveland, no normal head coach should want to be in Dallas. Egos are so big, and there's not enough room for both Jerry's and someone else's. Garrett is a rare coach that can fit in alongside Jerry - a good fit for all of his flaws.

[hairy worthen]

As Fluffy mentioned with Cleveland, no normal head coach should want to be in Dallas. Egos are so big, and there's not enough room for both Jerry's and someone else's. Garrett is a rare coach that can fit in alongside Jerry - a good fit for all of his flaws.

True. There is some draw to the Dallas job however. Its not comparable to Cleveland. They have crazy good facilities and stadium. The owner spends lots of money and is not afraid to spend on free agents. They have a huge fan base and are a premier brand. But then of course you have to put up with Jerry as the GM.

[Jockey]

As Fluffy mentioned with Cleveland, no normal head coach should want to be in Dallas. Egos are so big, and there's not enough room for both Jerry's and someone else's. Garrett is a rare coach that can fit in alongside Jerry - a good fit for all of his flaws.

Exactly. Above all else, Jerry needs a "yes man" to run the team. Jerry is the reason the Cowboys haven't even won a divisional playoff game since before many Scoopers were even born. The Cowboys are as consequential to good football as the New York Jets or the Chicago bears.

[CreightonWarrior]

Dan Snyder opened Rivera's introductory press conference today wishing everyone a Happy Thanksgiving.

[GB Warrior]

Dan Snyder opened Rivera's introductory press conference today wishing everyone a Happy Thanksgiving.

We get it, we get it, you're not changing the nickname

[Cheeks]

Ratings up 2nd straight year....amazing what happens when you focus on football.

[Pakuni]

Garrett reportedly fired, finally.

[GB Warrior]

Jerry Jones waits until we provoke a war to drop the Jason Garrett press release

[MikeDeanesDarkGlasses]

Who in the world will even take that Dallas job?

Betting sites have Urban Meyer at +300.  I would wholeheartedly laugh if Mike McCarthy gets the job and am hoping that does happen (it won't).

[Cheeks]

Jerry Jones waits until we provoke a war to drop the Jason Garrett press release

Say what you mean and mean what you say.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Jerry Jones waits until we provoke a war to drop the Jason Garrett press release

I think you're giving Jerry too much credit.

[The Sultan]

Yeah I think Jones just likes the guy and was trying to find a role for him.  My guess is that when he started hearing that Garrett was giving players exit interviews and those players were like "WTF?" that Stephen may have had to say "it's time."

[copious1218]

Any predictions for the weekend?

I'll go with Bills, Patriots, Saints, Seahawks.

[hairy worthen]

Any predictions for the weekend?

I'll go with Bills, Patriots, Saints, Seahawks.

I think Patriots go down, otherwise I agree but will be hoping for something else.

[HouWarrior]

Any predictions for the weekend?

I'll go with Bills, Patriots, Saints, Seahawks.

Houston will go up by 33 early in the 2nd half....lets see if the Bills can come back and win from that deficit !!!

(hint--see 1993- ouch)

[hairy worthen]

Houston will go up by 33 early in the 2nd half....lets see if the Bills can come back and win from that deficit !!!

(hint--see 1993- ouch)

Ha, I lived in Houston at that time. The city was deflated after that one (at least the oiler fans)  and then the move to Tennessee shortly after. Oiler gear was pretty cheap after that game some of which still hangs in my man cave.

[MUBurrow]

I think Patriots go down, otherwise I agree but will be hoping for something else.

If this comes to pass it's not what this Dolphins fan would have envisioned if you told me Ryan Tannehill would hand Tom Brady his last Patriots playoff defeat...

[GB Warrior]

These Bills are oddly fun to watch. Great defense, and the offense creatively leverages the strengths and weaknesses of Allen and this short, speedy receiving corps. Never thought I'd see Beasley or John Brown in any sort of leading role

[Uncle Rico]

Poor Bills fans

[Dish]

This game is drunk.