NFL Thread 2019-2020

[cheebs09]

Never a doubt.

[Jockey]

Not to put too fine a point on it, but the Lions have lots of players on IR, a third string QB, Slay and Galloday injured in this game, and a culture of losing.  GB will win.  Only question is how.

You got my sympathy, Tower.

Even as a Packer fan in the 70s and 80s, we didn't have to deal with what Lions fans have to put up with.


Thank God we played the Bears, Vikings, and Lions to end the regular season. 3 lose-proof games.

[Cheeks]

Never a doubt.

Lions be Lioning...even with a 3rd string QB and GB playing for a ton....never a doubt.

[wadesworld]

Basically a microcosm of the Packers season. Not very good, yet look up and somehow the result is what you were looking for.

[MUEng92]

I hope Rodgers figures something out over the next 2 weeks.  They won't win a playoff game playing like that

[cheebs09]

Rodgers needs to watch Brady. Dink and dump isn't sexy, but he Rodgers looks so good when throwing 6-8 yards moving the ball.

[Cheeks]

Basically a microcosm of the Packers season. Not very good, yet look up and somehow the result is what you were looking for.

A really soft schedule can be a great aid in achieving those results.  One of the reasons why New England has been exposed....32nd schedule out of 32.  Cowboys as well...31st out of 32nd and have beaten nobody. 

I suspect GBP whether they are seeded 1st or 2nd will not be given the love by the rating systems to win.  Vegas will be interesting considering how much money is bet on GBP by fans.

[Billy Hoyle]

Was torn. Lose and potentially get the #2 pick. Win means beating GB and knocking them to a road game Instead, watch the Pack gifted another undeserved win against the Lions. I'm positive that if Washington wins today Chase Young will return to OSU.

[The Sultan]

Things this team has in common with the 1996 Packers:  13-3 regular season record

And that's about it...

[Dr. Blackheart]

Bears sweep the Vikes

#skoal

[MU82]

Rodgers needs to watch Brady. Dink and dump isn't sexy, but he Rodgers looks so good when throwing 6-8 yards moving the ball.

Brady is having his worst season in years and years. Looks like a shell of how he played when he was a kid of 40.

[hairy worthen]

Brady is having his worst season in years and years. Looks like a shell of how he played when he was a kid of 40.

This could be it for Brady and maybe the beginning of the end for the Patriots dynasty.

[cheebs09]

Brady is having his worst season in years and years. Looks like a shell of how he played when he was a kid of 40.

True, but Brady has had a lot of success for a long time on short passes.

The Packers may have had an easy schedule, but they still had to win the games. They got lucky with the NFC East and a 3rd place finish last year, for a weaker schedule. However, the NFC North was a tough division and they went 6-0.

[reinko]

Rodgers needs to watch Brady. Dink and dump isn't sexy, but he Rodgers looks so good when throwing 6-8 yards moving the ball.

He can, while he is on a bye and TB12 is playing.

[hairy worthen]

True, but Brady has had a lot of success for a long time on short passes.

The Packers may have had an easy schedule, but they still had to win the games. They got lucky with the NFC East and a 3rd place finish last year, for a weaker schedule. However, the NFC North was a tough division and they went 6-0.

The weak schedule arguement for the entire season is weak. They were still playing nfl teams and went 13-3.  You could argue they didn't win convincingly enough I guess. It's unreal that a win isn't good enough they have to win a certain way as well.

  They were 6 and 0 in division with road wins against kc, min, bears and cowboys. The no Mahomes argument is weak as well. Vikings couldnt beat them without Mahomes. KC has a good backup who played well. No apologies for winning.

[The Sultan]

Rodgers needs to watch Brady. Dink and dump isn't sexy, but he Rodgers looks so good when throwing 6-8 yards moving the ball.

Rodgers is having a better year than Brady.  Higher completion percentage, net yards per attempt, rating, QBR, interception percentage...

So why should Rodgers watch Brady?

[Jockey]

Gotta be a future trivia question here somewhere:

Packers played Detroit twice this year, never led even one second of the 120 minutes and yet won both games without going into overtime.

Gotta bet that has never happened before.

[The Sultan]

The weak schedule arguement for the entire season is weak. They were still playing nfl teams and went 13-3.  You could argue they didn't win convincingly enough I guess. It's unreal that a win isn't good enough they have to win a certain way as well.

  They were 6 and 0 in division with road wins against kc, min, bears and cowboys. The no Mahomes argument is weak as well. Vikings couldnt beat them without Mahomes. KC has a good backup who played well. No apologies for winning.

You are right that going 13-3 is a great accomplishment for this team.  But not playing Mahomes was a huge advantage.  Not sure how you could discount that. 

And their schedule was weak.  Playing the NFC East and the AFC West was a huge advantage.

[Pakuni]

The weak schedule arguement for the entire season is weak. They were still playing nfl teams and went 13-3.  You could argue they didn't win convincingly enough I guess. It's unreal that a win isn't good enough they have to win a certain way as well.

  They were 6 and 0 in division with road wins against kc, min, bears and cowboys. The no Mahomes argument is weak as well. Vikings couldnt beat them without Mahomes. KC has a good backup who played well. No apologies for winning.

The weak schedule argument is also misleading at this point because teams with good records "weaken" their SOS as a result of winning. That's especially true when you go 6-0 against your division. So, I guess the Pack could have split with the Bears, Vikings and Lions and talked about how their schedule was tough, but I'm guessing they'd rather be 13-3.

[cheebs09]

Rodgers is having a better year than Brady.  Higher completion percentage, net yards per attempt, rating, QBR, interception percentage...

So why should Rodgers watch Brady?

That's fair. I meant more from Brady's career rather than this year specifically. Other than with Moss, Brady hasn't been a guy that makes a living throwing deep. He takes the underneath stuff and moves the chains.

[Marquette Fan]

Gotta be a future trivia question here somewhere:

Packers played Detroit twice this year, never led even one second of the 120 minutes and yet won both games without going into overtime.

Gotta bet that has never happened before.

It is crazy - I read it's the 2nd time ever it has happened:  https://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-41089462-4

[Uncle Rico]

The weak schedule argument is also misleading at this point because teams with good records "weaken" their SOS as a result of winning. That's especially true when you go 6-0 against your division. So, I guess the Pack could have split with the Bears, Vikings and Lions and talked about how their schedule was tough, but I'm guessing they'd rather be 13-3.

Packers took advantage of getting the NFC East and AFC West on the schedule and missing Mahomes.  They also got the 3rd place schedule which meant a terrible Carolina team, but a very good SF team, so that was a wash.

All that said, going 6-0 in the division, any division is incredibly impressive.

They have been extraordinarily lucky with lack of depth-killing injuries and in the turnover game.  They've also played remarkable red zone defense despite giving up lots of yards.  Those things aren't typically sustainable from one year to the next.  Doesn't matter in 2019, though.  Ride the wave as long as you can and you might win a Super Bowl

[hairy worthen]

You are right that going 13-3 is a great accomplishment for this team.  But not playing Mahomes was a huge advantage.  Not sure how you could discount that. 

And their schedule was weak.  Playing the NFC East and the AFC West was a huge advantage.

Well the Vikings coildnt beat kc without Mahomes and kc still had all their weapons. Kc backup qb played pretty well. All the divisions have weak teams. NFC south not that great either. Arguably the best division is nfc north  where the packers had 6 games. Also had to play the best team in the nfc west.

[hairy worthen]

The weak schedule argument is also misleading at this point because teams with good records "weaken" their SOS as a result of winning. That's especially true when you go 6-0 against your division. So, I guess the Pack could have split with the Bears, Vikings and Lions and talked about how their schedule was tough, but I'm guessing they'd rather be 13-3.

Exactly. I get sos over a few games, but not entire season in nfl. I'm guessing the Patriots not apologizing for playing in most putrid division year after year almost guaranteeing them a AFC championship game.

[The Sultan]

I don't think a 10-6 Vikings team loing to a Mahomes-less Chiefs says much of anything.