CBS SPORTS REACHES MULTI-YEAR AGREEMENT TO AIR BIG EAST

[jficke13]

If I recall, MU played two games on CBSSN last year that were good games.
Don't know if this had anything to do with the CBS contract.  But it appears they believe the Big East is high quality basketball.

Yup, and had to hunt up a stream for both. +1 to the "great, I get to hunt for a stream on Reddit" which is no doubt exactly what CBS wants when they pay for rights.

[Newsdreams]

News is fine. Just get the network. 

There is no way I can get cbssn

[Dr. Blackheart]

There is no way I can get cbssn

Chili can stream it and then share his screen with you on WebEx.

[Not A Serious Person]

You may want to read Disney’s earnings call from yesterday.

yes, ESPN is bleeding out and that was papered over by theme park attendance and movies.

 

[brewnewsman]

The take from Sports Business Journal:


Fox Sports has extended an agreement to sublicense 20 Big East basketball games to CBS Sports annually through 2024-2025, with up to four predetermined matchups on the broadcast network and several more on the CBS Sports Network cable TV outlet. The same deal has existed over the last seven seasons. It's good extra exposure for the Big East, as CBS draws a much bigger audience for its hoops telecasts. Last season, SBJ's Austin Karp reported that the average for college hoops on CBS was nearly 650,000 viewers higher than what Fox averaged.

[muhoosier260]

News is fine. Just get the network. 

Never seen someone go to bat so hard for....cbssn. Do you get a cut for the ratings, Mr. Nielsen.

[Herman Cain]

Look, a lot depends on how good the Big East is and how appealing the match-ups will be.

A Butler/DePaul game from last year won't make CBS no matter what. Period. That a CBSSN-18000 game that's only marginally better than a Wyoming High School game.

If we have four or five teams in the Top 40 (i.e., Marquette, Villanova, St. John's, Seton Hall and  Georgetown), most of which are in attractive television markets, we'll be fine and it will be a great deal.

CBS likes the deal because they can cherry pick some Villanova games against quality opponents and frequently Georgetown and The Johnnies have decent non conference match ups. Pretty much a no brainer by limiting the games on the Broadcast network. Also Fox benefits because they are getting some decent eyeballs for the conference teams that will hopefully translate into more viewership down the road for their Fox branded broadcasts.

[Mr. Nielsen]

Never seen someone go to bat so hard for....cbssn. Do you get a cut for the ratings, Mr. Nielsen.

Nope. Just weird that some freak out on something they won't buy or haven't seen.

[BrewCity83]

So, this is a sublicense agreement between CBS Sports and Fox.  That means Fox is selling off some of it's games, and no new money flowing into the conference.

[MU82]

yes, ESPN is bleeding out and that was papered over by theme park attendance and movies.

The other thread wasn't enough for this stuff? Maybe stick it in one of the Hauser threads, too!

[Herman Cain]

So, this is a sublicense agreement between CBS Sports and Fox.  That means Fox is selling off some of it's games, and no new money flowing into the conference.

The value in this deal is that a long time partner renewed . They expanded their participation in the national broadcast segment which is very helpful to the league. Also their cable network reaches a decent amount of households.  Continues to keep The Big East exposure up.

[jficke13]

Nope. Just weird that some freak out on something they won't buy or haven't seen.

I have seen it, and I've found that CBSSN sends the D-squad production crew and on air talent. It's a lower tier sports  channel, which makes sense because it is in obscure cable packages. It gets commensurately low viewership, so why throw resources at the production?

I guess, whatever man because it's always a jolly roger stream away and that's better than nothing, but let's not pretend that CBSSN is going to threatening to sweep the emmys or something.

Big East games on CBS proper = good.

Big East games on CBSSN < Big East games on FS1

It's not that complicated.

[Mr. Nielsen]

I'm not sure what I'm pretending. It's a network (CBSSN) that only gets 16 games. While it's excellent that 4 are going to CBS. The production is the same as CBS. Andrew Catalon and Steve Lappas who is a tourament crew does games on CBSSN. So, hardly a D crew. Studio guys Zucker, Davis, Rothstein, Parrish, etc is pretty good. Also, a freshing change from the talking points on ESPN.

Your correct, It's not that complicated. That was my point. 

[real chili 83]

There is no way I can get cbssn

You need to move to 'Merica. 👍🏻😉🇺🇸

[Marcus92]

It's interesting that the article only mentions the length of the deal, not any dollar amount. Also, that CBS is sub-licensing these games from Fox.

It just so happens that earlier this week, Fox Corp. announced that profits are up 16% year-over-year -- exceeding analyst expectations for the first quarter. Fox Sports was one of the biggest earnings drivers.

What this suggests to me is that the Big East has been successful enough for Fox that CBS wanted in on the deal. And that CBS likely offered more for the Big East games than what Fox is currently paying. If I'm reading the tea leaves correctly, that sounds like good news for the Big East.

https://variety.com/2019/biz/news/fox-corp-impresses-with-strong-first-quarterly-earnings-report-1203209254/

[Mr. Nielsen]

It's interesting that the article only mentions the length of the deal, not any dollar amount. Also, that CBS is sub-licensing these games from Fox.

Not really. The last sub-licensing deal from FOX to CBS for the Big East Conference didn't list dollar amounts. Also, other ESPN events sub-licensing deals to CBSSN don't list dollar amounts.

[Newsdreams]

Chili can stream it and then share his screen with you on WebEx.

I meant legally 

[Coleman]

There is no way I can get cbssn

Which is my whole point. It isn't available for like 50% of the country unless you want to shell out big bucks for basically every channel.

[Coleman]

So, this is a sublicense agreement between CBS Sports and Fox.  That means Fox is selling off some of it's games, and no new money flowing into the conference.

Right...and sub licensing it to a lower tier network (CBSSN)....this is not good news

BigEast sees no new money...and more of its games are moved to a network no one watches.

[Coleman]

Subscriber fee x homes that carry the channel

1. ESPN $6.61 x 94.5 million homes = $7.5 billion

2. NFL Network $1.31 x 73.6 million homes = $1.16 billion

3. FS1 .99 x 91.2 million homes = $1.08 billion

4. ESPN2 .83 x 94.5 million hiomes = $941.2 million

5. SEC Network .66 x 69.1 million homes = $547.3 million

6. Golf Channel .35 x 79.4 million homes = $332.2 million

7. NBC Sports Network .30 x 83.1 million homes = $299 million

8. Big Ten Network .39 x 62 million homes = $290.2 million

9. MLB Network .26 x 71.3 million homes = $222.5 million

10. FS2 .28 x 64 million homes = $215 million

11. NBA TV .29 x 57.2 million homes = $199 million

12. ESPNU .22 x 74.9 million homes = $198 million

13. CBS Sports Network .26 x 61 million homes = $190.3 million

14. NHL Network .32 x 37.4 million homes = $143.6 million

15. Pac 12 Network .39 x 12.3 million homes = $57.6 million

[Mr. Nielsen]

It's the same deal as it was for the most part for FOX Sports. 16 games to CBSSN.(Old deal was 20 to 30 games on CBSSN) Yet, CBS coverage gets doubled to 4 games. That a great thing! If FOX Sports can't sell some of it's product off, that would be bad news for the Big East. Since, other networks in this case CBS/CBSSN wants to buy Big East games from FOX Sports, that is good news for the Big East Conference.

[Coleman]

Yet, CBS coverage gets doubled to 4 games.

"Up to" 4 games. Remains to be seen how many actually make it on CBS. Will certainly depend on the strength of the conference. If we actually get 4 games on CBS, then that is a good thing. We are in agreement on that piece of the deal. But it is not a sure thing.

[Mr. Nielsen]

"Up to" 4 games. Remains to be seen how many actually make it on CBS. Will certainly depend on the strength of the conference. If we actually get 4 games on CBS, then that is a good thing. We are in agreement on that piece of the deal. But it is not a sure thing.

Max is 4 games. 4 games will be on CBS. Nothing remains to be seen. It's a sure thing! In all years past the 2 games have been on CBS.

[Coleman]

Max is 4 games. 4 games will be on CBS. Nothing remains to be seen. Sure thing! In all years past the 2 games have been on CBS.

Your own link in the beginning of the thread:

https://www.cbspressexpress.com/cbs-sports/releases/view?id=52629

"CBS Sports will broadcast up to four games per season with the remainder airing on CBS Sports Network."

Am I missing something?

[Mr. Nielsen]

Your own link in the beginning of the thread:

https://www.cbspressexpress.com/cbs-sports/releases/view?id=52629

"CBS Sports will broadcast up to four games per season with the remainder airing on CBS Sports Network."

Am I missing something?

Nope. 16 games will be on CBSSN and 4 on CBS. Total of 20 games. That is less games, than the old deal. I can see in how you can read it different in the presser.