Marquette ranked 7th in preseason Sporting News for next season

[wadesworld]

Ignorant statement.

Just last week, Markus led a FellowshipOfChristianAthletes meeting on campus. Then, along with teammates, he helped raise a bunch of money for womens' Heart health through a campus sorority.

Anything to fit your narrative.

But as MUpilot aka Jesse D reports to us here on Scoop, those are just fluff pieces to send out to the fan base so they can feel okay about our team flying comfortably on private planes to go get their asses kicked on the basketball court.

[wadesworld]

Las Vegas oddsmakers feel slightly different about MU and BE success for next season than the "early" polls. Could be easy money for those that believe we are top seven team going into next season.

Jump on that. You're jacked up and all in on next season.

[IrwinFletcher]

Las Vegas oddsmakers feel slightly different about MU and BE success for next season than the "early" polls. Could be easy money for those that believe we are top seven team going into next season.

What is Vegas saying?

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Mark Miller is saying on the IWB board that Markus is gone.  That'll certainly affect pre season rankings.

This is all well and good, but where the hell does Markus think he is going?  There are only two rounds in the NBA draft.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

This is all well and good, but where the hell does Markus think he is going?  There are only two rounds in the NBA draft.

All it takes is one team to decide they want to take a shot on him.

That being said,  I'd be surprised if he goes.

Also,  I'm not sure on the agent rules.  I keep getting different answers on if the rule changed and how it changed

[brewcity77]

From what I understand, players can declare & stay in through the draft and return provided they received a NBA Combine invite & go undrafted. As far as agents, the agents are allowed to pay for meals, travel, etc and the player can still return with eligibility as long as they disclose all such expenditures.

[rocket surgeon]

this was kind of a shocker-just hoping wojo doesn't blow it

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26464237/loaded-michigan-state-leads-way-too-early-top-25-2019-20

got MU at #2 ?? 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

From what I understand, players can declare & stay in through the draft and return provided they received a NBA Combine invite & go undrafted. As far as agents, the agents are allowed to pay for meals, travel, etc and the player can still return with eligibility as long as they disclose all such expenditures.

I've seen that proposed, I've seen articles saying they are going to do it,  I have yet to see it codified anywhere

[wadesworld]

this was kind of a shocker-just hoping wojo doesn't blow it

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26464237/loaded-michigan-state-leads-way-too-early-top-25-2019-20

got MU at #2 ?? 

National title game or bust, hey?

[JakeBarnes]

Seth Davis has us at 35

[CTWarrior]

this was kind of a shocker-just hoping wojo doesn't blow it

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26464237/loaded-michigan-state-leads-way-too-early-top-25-2019-20

got MU at #2 ??

Well their BPI had us at 4 going in to this season, so I would take this with a grain of salt.

[auburnmarquette]

Ok, I do t really expect a national title, but the only MU thing I'm down on is our naysayers, who

1. Want to fire Wojo as he has built top 10 talent and according to TSN top 7 talent

2. Want to give up for losing to Ja - the likely no. 2 NBA pick, while UVA didn't give up after losing to a 16-seed

3. Suggest the team would be better if an All-American left, a guy picked as one of the top 10 players in America by many all American voters, or

4. Fret about losing him to the NBA after he drops off the mock draft (sure he could pull a Vander, anyone could. But 80% of the things you worry about don't happen so why stress)

5. Would have certainly fired bruce Pearl here in Auburn after his 44-54 three year record because they don't realiZe "forget the recruiting class and let him go" really means "forget the program" no that the old big East is gone and we don't have guaranteed success.

Other than the annoying naysayers, it's great to be an MU fan.

[Silent Verbal]

Ok, I do t really expect a national title, but the only MU thing I'm down on is our naysayers, who

1. Want to fire Wojo as he has built top 10 talent and according to TSN top 7 talent

2. Want to give up for losing to Ja - the likely no. 2 NBA pick, while UVA didn't give up after losing to a 16-seed

3. Suggest the team would be better if an All-American left, a guy picked as one of the top 10 players in America by many all American voters, or

4. Fret about losing him to the NBA after he drops off the mock draft (sure he could pull a Vander, anyone could. But 80% of the things you worry about don't happen so why stress)

5. Would have certainly fired bruce Pearl here in Auburn after his 44-54 three year record because they don't realiZe "forget the recruiting class and let him go" really means "forget the program" no that the old big East is gone and we don't have guaranteed success.

Other than the annoying naysayers, it's great to be an MU fan.

I'm not a Wojo supporter.  I'd be happy if he moved on, or if Marquette moved on from him.  He's been here for five years, long enough for anyone to make any judgment they wish.

What's tiresome for me is the ardent Wojo supporters who'll tear down or ridicule anyone who doesn't like him.  I'm a fan of Marquette basketball.  I'm not a fan of Wojo.  Just because I don't like him doesn't mean I don't support the program, and it doesn't mean my opinion is less valid than those who don't share my beliefs. 

[D'Lo Brown]

Wojo needs to start sounding smarter in the timeout huddles they show on TV. How are we supposed to tell if he's a good coach or not?

[Goose]

research

Only say the company line and everything will be OK.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Or, adopt the Eeyore stance and be perpetually, mildly, sadly disappointed.

[Cheeks]

I'm not a Wojo supporter.  I'd be happy if he moved on, or if Marquette moved on from him.  He's been here for five years, long enough for anyone to make any judgment they wish.

What's tiresome for me is the ardent Wojo supporters who'll tear down or ridicule anyone who doesn't like him.  I'm a fan of Marquette basketball.  I'm not a fan of Wojo.  Just because I don't like him doesn't mean I don't support the program, and it doesn't mean my opinion is less valid than those who don't share my beliefs.

Because based on your logic you would want Coach K, Jay Wright, etc also fired at the same point in time of their careers at Nova and Duke.  We have most major publications saying next year top 10....yes, this is why people shake their head.  No patience.  No recognition of trajectory.

[Silent Verbal]

Because based on your logic you would want Coach K, Jay Wright, etc also fired at the same point in time of their careers at Nova and Duke.  We have most major publications saying next year top 10....yes, this is why people shake their head.  No patience.  No recognition of trajectory.

At the same point of their careers?  Wojo's been here for five years.  In his fifth year at Nova, Wright went 28-6, got a #1 seed, and went to the Elite 8.

Coach K didn't achieve great success at Duke until year 6, when Duke went 37-3 and played in the National Championship game.  Duke made the Tournament the two years prior to that.

So by your logic, Wojo is well behind Wright in terms of accomplishments, and will need to make the NC game in year 6 to match Coach K.  No sweat, right?

What are your expectations for next year, assuming Howard returns?  If MU is in fact a top 10 team going into the season, wouldn't anything less than a top 10-15 ranking all year and a 1-3 seed in the Tournament be a huge disappointment?

[RJax55]

At the same point of their careers?  Wojo's been here for five years.  In his fifth year at Nova, Wright went 28-6, got a #1 seed, and went to the Elite 8.

Coach K didn't achieve great success at Duke until year 6, when Duke went 37-3 and played in the National Championship game.  Duke made the Tournament the two years prior to that.

So by your logic, Wojo is well behind Wright in terms of accomplishments, and will need to make the NC game in year 6 to match Coach K.  No sweat, right?

What are your expectations for next year, assuming Howard returns?  If MU is in fact a top 10 team going into the season, wouldn't anything less than a top 10-15 ranking all year and a 1-3 seed in the Tournament be a huge disappointment?

Thank you. I'm so tired of reading about the goddamn Jay Wright comparison. There's no comparison.

As you mentioned, he went to the Elite Eight and won the Big East in his fifth season. In addition, he took Nova to the Sweet Sixteen the year prior, the school's first since 1988.

By the end of his fifth season, it was quite clear that Wright had Nova moving fast into the upper echelon of college bball programs. By then, he had tangible success that he could use to recruit/continue to build his program, which he did.

[Class71]

This is all well and good, but where the hell does Markus think he is going?  There are only two rounds in the NBA draft.

Look I love the guy. Great shooter and from all angles he appears to be a fantastic person. NBA material yes if he can do the following better: pass, drive the ball, reduce turnovers, play defense and think team first. He needs another year be see if he can accomplish that.

[GoldenEagle323]

Im thinking maybe all these high rankings will convince markus to stay

[KampusFoods]

Im thinking maybe all these high rankings will convince markus to stay

Might stay. Preseason polls wont be the reason.

I think hes gone

[MuMark]

https://twitter.com/cbbonfox/status/1115746782355394561?s=21

[muguru]

Might stay. Preseason polls wont be the reason.

I think hes gone

He won't get drafted...so would he really not come back to MU if he isn't going to be drafted?? I love the kid and want him back

[KampusFoods]

He won't get drafted...so would he really not come back to MU if he isn't going to be drafted?? I love the kid and want him back

I dont know if he will get drafted. Haven't talked to each NBA teams scouts. Maybe you have.

Just heard a fair amount of smoke around him leaving. None of it rock solid, but people who I wouldn't expect to fabricate it. I hope they are all wrong and Markus is leading the team next year.