Izzo

[Dish]

Amazing stat on Izzo. This would be assuming a player stayed all 4 years.

Of his 24 recruiting classes, 23 have gone to a Final Four.

[NickelDimer]

That's amazing. How about drawing up back to back huge baskets out of timeouts. Hell of a coach.

[oldwarrior81]

after Izzo had been a grad assistant at Michigan State, Jud Heathcote didn't have a full-time assistant job to offer him.

Izzo takes a job in Tulsa.  Within a couple months, Mike Deane leaves the MSU staff for the Siena job.
Izzo returned to East Lansing.  Certainly seems to have worked out for both him and the University.

[WarriorFan]

Juniors and Seniors beat Freshman.  It's that simple.

It's true for both Auburn and MSU.

[Herman Cain]

Juniors and Seniors beat Freshman.  It's that simple.

It's true for both Auburn and MSU.

A research report on Michigan State that supports your point

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2019/03/31/michigan-state-duke-final-four-cassius-winston-tom-izzo

[WhiteTrash]

MSU with Izzo is a great place play basketball...plus you can freely assault women.  That's a winning combination.

[wadesworld]

Guess the posters who so desperately wanted me gowne are stuck with me.

Sad.

Juniors and Seniors beat Freshman.  It's that simple.

It's true for both Auburn and MSU.

Shooting beats not shooting.  It's that simple.

[avid1010]

Amazing stat on Izzo. This would be assuming a player stayed all 4 years.

Of his 24 recruiting classes, 23 have gone to a Final Four.

Crapshoot

[Bocephys]

Guess the posters who so desperately wanted me gowne are stuck with me.

Sad.

Shooting beats not shooting.  It's that simple.

More points beats less points, it's that simple

[Uncle Rico]

MSU with Izzo is a great place play basketball...plus you can freely assault women.  That's a winning combination.

Izzo is a garbage human being and his program is garbage

[Norm]

Izzo is a garbage human being and his program is garbage

Oh, so you are on a first name basis with Izzo and  have lots of first hand experience with him to claim that he is a garbage human being?

[Bocephys]

Oh, so you are on a first name basis with Izzo and  have lots of first hand experience with him to claim that he is a garbage human being?

If he were on a first name basis with him, wouldn't he have called him "Tom"?

[Uncle Rico]

Oh, so you are on a first name basis with Izzo and  have lots of first hand experience with him to claim that he is a garbage human being?

I have no time for coaches who bury their heads in the sand and proclaim ignorance about all the things that happen in their program that are negative.

[GooooMarquette]

I have no time for coaches who bury their heads in the sand and proclaim ignorance about all the things that happen in their program that are negative.

Yep. People in high places have ways of making sure they get info without leaving a clear paper trail. Plausible deniability....

[Pakuni]

This probably won't help Izzo's legacy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/10/sports/michigan-state-rape.html?register=email&auth=register-email

By Marc Tracy
April 10, 2019

Robin and David Kowalski barely recognized their daughter Bailey when she was visiting home in White Lake, Mich., in the spring of 2015.

Their perennially positive daughter, who was about to finish her freshman year at Michigan State, was sullen. She had suddenly decided to abandon her long-held dream of being a sports journalist, and she refused to tell her mother, in whom she typically confided everything, why.

It was not until October, after months of erratic behavior, that Ms. Kowalski told her parents that she had been raped by three Michigan State basketball players that April. The incident left her depressed and considering harming herself. She dropped out of college for a while and received counseling. She gave up sports journalism for good.

Last year, Ms. Kowalski, 22, who is speaking publicly about her case for the first time, sued Michigan State in federal court for violating her rights under Title IX, the federal law mandating gender equity in higher education, as a Jane Doe. The lawsuit asserts that Michigan State mishandles sexual misconduct complaints against athletes. One woman said two football players raped her in 2009, but she was not advised of her Title IX rights, the lawsuit said, and another woman said three basketball players raped her in 2010, after which the accusations were not reported outside the athletic department.

A Michigan State motion to dismiss the case is pending. A university spokeswoman, Emily Guerrant, declined to comment on the case while the litigation is ongoing but said Michigan State "is dedicated to making sure every student receives fair treatment and support when they need it."

Ms. Kowalski has decided to come forward, hoping she can persuade other victims, at Michigan State or elsewhere, to tell their stories.

According to Ms. Kowalski, when a university counselor learned that the men who she said assailed her were members of the basketball team — a storied and treasured program that has played in 10 Final Fours, including this year's — the counselor discouraged her from reporting it, the lawsuit said.

"If you pursue this, you are going to be swimming with some really big fish," a staff member told Ms. Kowalski, the lawsuit said.

Ms. Kowalski plans to hold a news conference in East Lansing on Thursday, the fourth anniversary of the incident. A month later, she will graduate from Michigan State.

"I don't want any other girl who has gone through this or who God forbid may have to go through something like this to feel for one second that they should be too afraid to come out and do something," Ms. Kowalski said in a phone interview last week.

[Galway Eagle]

This probably won't help Izzo's legacy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/10/sports/michigan-state-rape.html?register=email&auth=register-email

By Marc Tracy
April 10, 2019

Robin and David Kowalski barely recognized their daughter Bailey when she was visiting home in White Lake, Mich., in the spring of 2015.

Their perennially positive daughter, who was about to finish her freshman year at Michigan State, was sullen. She had suddenly decided to abandon her long-held dream of being a sports journalist, and she refused to tell her mother, in whom she typically confided everything, why.

It was not until October, after months of erratic behavior, that Ms. Kowalski told her parents that she had been raped by three Michigan State basketball players that April. The incident left her depressed and considering harming herself. She dropped out of college for a while and received counseling. She gave up sports journalism for good.

Last year, Ms. Kowalski, 22, who is speaking publicly about her case for the first time, sued Michigan State in federal court for violating her rights under Title IX, the federal law mandating gender equity in higher education, as a Jane Doe. The lawsuit asserts that Michigan State mishandles sexual misconduct complaints against athletes. One woman said two football players raped her in 2009, but she was not advised of her Title IX rights, the lawsuit said, and another woman said three basketball players raped her in 2010, after which the accusations were not reported outside the athletic department.

A Michigan State motion to dismiss the case is pending. A university spokeswoman, Emily Guerrant, declined to comment on the case while the litigation is ongoing but said Michigan State "is dedicated to making sure every student receives fair treatment and support when they need it."

Ms. Kowalski has decided to come forward, hoping she can persuade other victims, at Michigan State or elsewhere, to tell their stories.

According to Ms. Kowalski, when a university counselor learned that the men who she said assailed her were members of the basketball team — a storied and treasured program that has played in 10 Final Fours, including this year's — the counselor discouraged her from reporting it, the lawsuit said.

"If you pursue this, you are going to be swimming with some really big fish," a staff member told Ms. Kowalski, the lawsuit said.

Ms. Kowalski plans to hold a news conference in East Lansing on Thursday, the fourth anniversary of the incident. A month later, she will graduate from Michigan State.

"I don't want any other girl who has gone through this or who God forbid may have to go through something like this to feel for one second that they should be too afraid to come out and do something," Ms. Kowalski said in a phone interview last week.

we cant throw stones in glass houses

[The Sultan]

we cant throw stones in glass houses

You mixed up the saying, but Marquette fans can be critical of how other schools are handling sexual assault as long as they hold their own school to similar scrutiny. 

[withoutbias]

we cant throw stones in glass houses

tamueagle's problem now.

[Galway Eagle]

You mixed up the saying, but Marquette fans can be critical of how other schools are handling sexual assault as long as they hold their own school to similar scrutiny.

Depends on the poster. some here say Buzz isn't liable at all (so then why can we point at Izzo?) some here don't even believe it actually happened.

Isn't the saying "don't throw stones in glass houses"?

[Pakuni]

we cant throw stones in glass houses

We aren't all in glass houses re: Buzz's handling of that situation.

[The Sultan]

Depends on the poster. some here say Buzz isn't liable at all (so then why can we point at Izzo?) some here don't even believe it actually happened.

Isn't the saying "don't throw stones in glass houses"?

People who live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones.

[Galway Eagle]

People who live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones.

Oh damn thanks for that

We aren't all in glass houses re: Buzz's handling of that situation.

Agree just wanted to put that out there before a bunch of Izzo haters who love Buzz commented.

[SERocks]

we cant throw stones in glass houses

We don't have a glass house.  We cleaned up our program. 

[Dr. Blackheart]

We don't have a glass house.  We cleaned up our program.

Windex?

[avid1010]

We don't have a glass house.  We cleaned up our program.

think mu would have acted differently than msu if buzz had the winning history that izzo has?