Meanwhile Buzz is humiliating SLU

[brewcity77]

So, like, you guys know Buzz chose to leave, right? Nobody forced him out. Nobody told him to leave. Nobody fired him.

Relatively speaking. He left, but no one from Marquette was standing in his way. Sort of like "I'm leaving" and admin said "great, can we get the door for you?"

[Pakuni]

Relatively speaking. He left, but no one from Marquette was standing in his way. Sort of like "I'm leaving" and admin said "great, can we get the door for you?"

They gave him a shot to be a head coach at a major program when almost nobody thought he deserved it (including many, many people here); gave him a raise virtually every time he publicly batted his eyes at another program; publicly stood by him through the assault accusations and other off-court issues; allowed him to bring in players who wouldn't have been admitted under prior administrations; ousted the AD with whom he clashed; ousted the president who tried to rein him in; and brought back the AD and president who hired him.
And he still wasn't happy and said he was leaving. What more do you want the administration to do at that point?  Give more money and power to a guy who'd just sleepwalked through the previous season? Hand him the keys to Marquette Hall and the Gesu? Beyond it being a really dumb idea, what would that say about the priorities of Marquette University? Hey, this guy made it all the way to one Elite Eight (where Jim Boeheim promptly tore him a new one) ... let's make him the most powerful person on campus?

I have no problem with Buzz choosing to leave (the things he said -  and leaked - on the way out are another matter). If he wasn't happy and thought he'd be happier elsewhere, fine. Go.
The narrative that Buzz was pushed out the door is horsesh*t and people ought to stop telling it because they'd rather not believe their guy dumped them for what he thought was a prettier girl.

[The Sultan]

They gave him a shot to be a head coach at a major program when almost nobody thought he deserved it (including many, many people here); gave him a raise virtually every time he publicly batted his eyes at another program; publicly stood by him through the assault accusations and other off-court issues; allowed him to bring in players who wouldn't have been admitted under prior administrations; ousted the AD with whom he clashed; ousted the president who tried to rein him in; and brought back the AD and president who hired him.
And he still wasn't happy and said he was leaving. What more do you want the administration to do at that point?  Give more money and power to a guy who'd just sleepwalked through the previous season? Hand him the keys to Marquette Hall and the Gesu? Beyond it being a really dumb idea, what would that say about the priorities of Marquette University? Hey, this guy made it all the way to one Elite Eight (where Jim Boeheim promptly tore him a new one) ... let's make him the most powerful person on campus?

I have no problem with Buzz choosing to leave (the things he said -  and leaked - on the way out are another matter). But if he wasn't happy and thought he'd be happier elsewhere, fine. Go.
The narrative that Buzz was pushed out the door is horsesh*t and people ought to stop telling it because they'd rather not believe their guy dumped them for what he thought was a prettier girl.

One nitpick. Cords didn't hire Buzz as head coach. Cottingham did. 

[Pakuni]

One nitpick. Cords didn't hire Buzz as head coach. Cottingham did.

You're correct, of course. Fixed.

[brewcity77]

What more do you want the administration to do at that point?  Give more money and power to a guy who'd just sleepwalked through the previous season?

Nothing. I'm not complaining. I'm just saying that while he left, Marquette was totally fine with him leaving.

[LAZER]

Buzz is extremely good at making lotsa money for himself. He wins and he wins in March when it counts. If Buzz were to be a free agent, the list of suitors would be endless. Can't say the same for our current coach who played his way out of a 2 or 3 seed and an easier 1st rd. match up.  1-6 record to close out the season should get ya fired, aina?

Buzz wins in March? Are you not including the last 5 years?

[Cheeks]

So, like, you guys know Buzz chose to leave, right? Nobody forced him out. Nobody told him to leave. Nobody fired him.

And the beauty for Buzzard is that he left, still got to roam the sidelines with the title of MU coach and get paid millions of dollars while acting as the MU coach, even though he didn't do a damn bit of coaching his final year, then a year later officially left.  The double leave....what a pro.

[vogue65]

Wojo just beat out Buzz for the same recruit.  Good try Vogue, another swing and miss.

[rocky_warrior]

Not to be a Buzz Kill, but please, Buzz is gone.  Why we still obsessing?

[connie]

Not to be a Buzz Kill, but please, Buzz is gone.  Why we still obsessing?

Because things were looking really good----then turned REALLY bad.

[Babybluejeans]

Not to be a Buzz Kill, but please, Buzz is gone.  Why we still obsessing?

Our coach kind of stinks, so why wouldn't we swim in memories of those halcyon days? People may have pooped on Crean (appropriately I think), but no one pined for him after he left - because we were gifted a better coach. Different story this time. Alas.

[Pakuni]

Not to be a Buzz Kill, but please, Buzz is gone.  Why we still obsessing?

Shouldn't we at least be rid of the obsessing over Tom Crean first?

[rocky_warrior]

Shouldn't we at least be rid of the obsessing over Tom Crean first?

Who?  The Antarctic explorer?

[Pakuni]

Who?  The Antarctic explorer?

The one and only.

[Billy Hoyle]

Because things were looking really good----then turned REALLY bad.

They turned bad while he was still at MU, in terms of record and performance. Off the court and in the classroom it was only getting worse

[Loose Cannon]

What happens when Buzz and WOJO offer the same recruit?

Does the BOT call an emergency meeting and withdraw the offer to the kid?

If BUZZ makes an offer then the kid must be flawed, of low I.Q., lacking character, immature.
Or, is WOJO turning into a BUZZ and its time to reign him in or let him go for a more pristine coach fitting for our high class image.

Maby Marquette could get into the Ivy League, I hear they are considering expanding to 12 teams.  A low budget football program should not be too dificult to muster up.

High risk high reward, low risk low reward, its as simple as that.

Was Dexter that Recruit?

[Cheeks]

Our coach kind of stinks, so why wouldn't we swim in memories of those halcyon days? People may have pooped on Crean (appropriately I think), but no one pined for him after he left - because we were gifted a better coach. Different story this time. Alas.

For being one of the biggest SJWs on this board, it's amazing you tolerated the winning of Buzz with the other stuff going on.... interesting.

[Cheeks]

??  You quoted me, but nothing.  If you were asking me whom, I will gladly tell you.

Dexter Akanno was offered by MU and Va Tech, he chose MU and will be on the club next year.

[Small Orange Soda]

Our coach kind of stinks, so why wouldn't we swim in memories of those halcyon days? People may have pooped on Crean (appropriately I think), but no one pined for him after he left - because we were gifted a better coach. Different story this time. Alas.

Imagine how smug some people would be if after five years in Blacksburg all Buzz had to show for it were two first round blowouts.

[connie]

They turned bad while he was still at MU, in terms of record and performance. Off the court and in the classroom it was only getting worse

We are obsessing over the past because of the way this season ended,  not 2013/14.  To be fair, had we won a few more games there would still be those pining for the past, but I responded because I'm still scratching my head about how this year went off the rails so far and so fast.

[Bocephys]

I am just going to say this: there is some ugliness with Scotty that hasn't been made public. Man of the cloth...

Are we all just going to ignore this?

[rocky_warrior]

I'm still scratching my head about how this year went off the rails so far and so fast.

That's fair.  And I think the answer is mostly "Markus" - but mostly because *I believe* he was not 100%, and Wojo didn't have a good backup PG plan (Chartouny didn't pan out).

[Jon]

Jams,

I gotta call you on it: You said that it takes 5 years to judge a coach's body of work.

5 years in and Wojo has not delivered any results the Marquette Faithful have every right to expect.

So, is it really the "6 Year Rule" or "Add a Year to The 5 Year Rule Because It Really Isn't The 5 Year Rule?"

[nyg]

Are we all just going to ignore this?

Yes, has nothing to do with Buzz and basketball whatsoever. 

[wadesworld]

Are we all just going to ignore this?

I ignore most of what Jon says.