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The Sultan

Quote from: muguru on March 22, 2019, 10:51:05 PM
Way to single out one year Chicos...You da man...I can't say as I blame him given how he was being treated. F You Larry and father Pilrsz for ruining a great thing.

Oh, by the way, why didn't you mention the fact that he went to Elite 8's and Sweet 16's while at MU...?? That my friend is winning. 8 tournament wins at the 5 year mark...more than double any other MU Coach(TC had 4). Wojo has.....*crickets chirping* One hell of an impressive resume....NOT.

There really is no doubt that Buzz is a better coach than Wojo. But he deserves a ton of the blame why he's no longer at MU. Remember that Larry and Pilarz were long gone when he left.

I don't think you fully grasp what the University wants here. Winning of course. But within certain boundaries. Buzz wasn't willing to do that.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

wadesworld

Quote from: vogue65 on March 23, 2019, 04:34:44 AMHigh risk high reward, low risk low reward, its as simple as that.

In basketball recruiting? Yeah...no. That's not how it works.

shoothoops

Quote from: MUEng92 on March 22, 2019, 11:19:04 PM
When I posted that, SLU had a chance to cut it to single digits.  But now have apparently forgotten how to make layups

Great game plan and prep by Buzz. His kids were ready to play. SLU's run has been fueled by slow starts and strong second halfs. And that was the case last night. But the achilles heel of their team has been knocking down shots and free throws. Strengths have been defense and rebounding. They made it a game.

Babybluejeans

Quote from: Cheeks on March 23, 2019, 03:20:48 AM
No, I'm just not that into rape and stuff.  He's a very good coach as I often said, it was the other crap.

The real problem is that people just make accusations and it ruins people's lives. Where's the proof Cheekz?

Buzz is a great coach. Wojo isn't. I hope Wojo becomes one but we've given him...5 years. And he isn't. It's that simple. 

leever

Quote from: Jon on March 22, 2019, 10:58:21 PM
With all the talk of trajectory is there anyone who wouldn't trade Wojo's for Buzzard's?

Watching VT right now and they are fun to watch.  Makes me think back to how great we were under Bert. Our teams back then played with fire in their bellies. They were ferocious. They were Warriors.

Not sure about fire in their bellies but they played like their hair was on fire, eh?

MarquetteDano

Five years in and Va Tech has accomplished more than us.  Maybe you want to argue Buzz cuts corners?  Let say for the sake of argument he does.  Marquette's program should still be able to rise above Va Tech even with the corner cutting.

Next year better be really good to offset these past five.

Goose

Anyone that thinks Buzz is going experience any serious or long term setbacks with on court success is not being honest with themselves. Buzz will always retool and his 'down years" will likely look out season this year. He gets players, always gets players, and they play hard nosed ball.
My only disagreement  to the Buzz backers, which I am as well, is I do not think he is a basketball genius. He is not vastly better to Wojo as a game coach, but in every other area is vastly superior. Buzz recruits and motivates like his kids dinner is on the line. There lies the genius of Buzz.

nyg

Buzz has done a great job at VT in a very competitive ACC Conference.  He did this without his second best player from two years ago, Chris Clarke, who was kicked off the team for reasons still unknown, so some discipline was in place.  I don't recall any other player incidents or problems during his tenure at VT.  It is highly probable that VT will beat Liberty and move on to the Sweet Sixteen, quite an accomplishment for VT. 

But things will not be as great next year.  If Blackshear enters the draft, VT will lose it's entire starting five.  I fully expect Buzz to leave VT for Texas A&M, then wait for the Shaka dismissal in a few years. 

79Warrior

Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 23, 2019, 07:00:44 AM
Buzz is extremely good at making lotsa money for himself. He wins and he wins in March when it counts. If Buzz were to be a free agent, the list of suitors would be endless. Can't say the same for our current coach who played his way out of a 2 or 3 seed and an easier 1st rd. match up.  1-6 record to close out the season should get ya fired, aina?

Wojo is milk toast and that is what administration wants. Clean cut, no nonsense and does not bring any drama to the program. The current admin likely would not employ Al the way he behaved. Different era today. Wojo is winning enough to keep his job. We are all disappointed with his post season record. Let's see what happens in the offseason. If we finish year six and still flame out in the post season I probably would advocate a serious evaluation of the coaching situation.

Cheeks

Quote from: Babybluejeans on March 23, 2019, 08:38:53 AM
The real problem is that people just make accusations and it ruins people's lives. Where's the proof Cheekz?

Buzz is a great coach. Wojo isn't. I hope Wojo becomes one but we've given him...5 years. And he isn't. It's that simple.

Buzz is a great coach.  Wojo isn't yet.  In terms of accusations....check the settlements which don't happen just cuz.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Cheeks

Quote from: vogue65 on March 23, 2019, 04:34:44 AM
What happens when Buzz and WOJO offer the same recruit?

Does the BOT call an emergency meeting and withdraw the offer to the kid?

If BUZZ makes an offer then the kid must be flawed, of low I.Q., lacking character, immature.
Or, is WOJO turning into a BUZZ and its time to reign him in or let him go for a more pristine coach fitting for our high class image.

Maby Marquette could get into the Ivy League, I hear they are considering expanding to 12 teams.  A low budget football program should not be too dificult to muster up.

High risk high reward, low risk low reward, its as simple as that.

Wojo just beat out Buzz for the same recruit.  Good try Vogue, another swing and miss.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Heisenberg

#36
Quote from: muguru on March 22, 2019, 10:51:05 PM
F You Larry and father Pilrsz for ruining a great thing.

Over in the other post you guys bash me over my old handle, pointing out the abhorrent behavior of Majerus.

Out comes the Victorian age outrage and the smelling salts.

Meanwhile guru is considered a paragon around here even though he said this about a man that devoted his life to god and education (and poetry).  All because a basketball coach left.

Why isn't guru sent on a holiday for this?  What an absolutely terrible thing to say about a man of the cloth.

Goose

Towel
Not you guys, it was me that pointed out your disrespect for Rick. It was not bashing, it was a respectful post stating I found your handle as offensive.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on March 23, 2019, 10:19:38 AM
Over in the other post you guys bash me over my old handle, pointing out the abhorrent behavior of Majerus.

Out comes the Victorian age outrage and the smelling salts.

Meanwhile guru is considered a paragon around here even though he said this about a man that devoted his life to god and education (and poetry).  All because a basketball coach left.

Why isn't guru sent on a holiday for this?  What an absolutely terrible thing to say about a man of the cloth.

You might want to check your facts

Heisenberg

Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2019, 10:22:25 AM
Towel
Not you guys, it was me that pointed out your disrespect for Rick. It was not bashing, it was a respectful post stating I found your handle as offensive.

And I now find guru's existence offensive for this awful remark ... supposedly from someone that got a Jesuit education.

Heisenberg

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 23, 2019, 10:24:02 AM
You might want to check your facts

You defending this language directed at a priest because you were dissatisfied with a basketball record?

Goose

Towel
No one cares what you find to be offensive.

Heisenberg

Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2019, 10:28:47 AM
Towel
No one cares what you find to be offensive.

You ok with this too.  What Pilar's was not nice to you last century so you have nothing hate for him?

connie

#43
Quote from: Cheeks on March 23, 2019, 09:51:36 AM
Buzz is a great coach.  Wojo isn't yet.  In terms of accusations....check the settlements which don't happen just cuz.
Settlements are a poor indication of truth, particularly in this situation.
"Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything Kent.  40% of all people know that."  HJS

Goose

Towel
I have no idea what you are ranting about, nor do I care. Unlike you, I only post on topics that I am knowledgeable on. Again, I could not care less about anything you say, think or believe in.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on March 23, 2019, 10:28:18 AM
You defending this language directed at a priest because you were dissatisfied with a basketball record?

I am questioning the merit of your insight to the entire situation. You are off the rails.

Pakuni

#46
So, like, you guys know Buzz chose to leave, right? Nobody forced him out. Nobody told him to leave. Nobody fired him.
Hell, both of his so-called nemeses were out the door. Whatever power struggle there was, he'd won ... a fact conveniently ignored by the "they messed with Buzz's happy" crowd.
He got what he wanted and then left because he wanted to leave.

Some of you are like dumped boyfriends still pining for the one who got away while making excuses for the fact she kicked you to the curb to hook up with another guy.
Ger. Over. It

Babybluejeans

Quote from: Cheeks on March 23, 2019, 09:51:36 AM
Buzz is a great coach.  Wojo isn't yet.  In terms of accusations....check the settlements which don't happen just cuz.

Good point. The NFL's settlement with Kap means the league colluded.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on March 23, 2019, 10:24:11 AM
And I now find guru's existence offensive for this awful remark ... supposedly from someone that got a Jesuit education.

Gurus stated before he did not go to MU so the whole "got a Jesuit education" thing is out the window depending his high school
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

Jon

Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on March 23, 2019, 10:30:29 AM
You ok with this too.  What Pilar's was not nice to you last century so you have nothing hate for him?
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I am just going to say this: there is some ugliness with Scotty that hasn't been made public. Man of the cloth...

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