Who Do You Blame for the Murray State Loss?

[Mr. Nielsen]

I'll also say I'm sad I didn't go out of my way to watch more of Morant this year. That kid's game is absolutely incredible and he's going to be a dynamite PG in the NBA

Me too.
I first watch him in the semis of the OVC.

[Cheeks]

You are right. Maybe we need to start asking a key question
What the hell did Wojo learn in his 15-20 years at Duke, besides how to make awesome power points?

Dumb. 

[brewcity77]

Bailey is 6'8 no?

Yeah, but FSU has like 7 Baileys (and a Christ Koumadje).

I agree with this, but it's been 5 years. Waiting to see if it's just a matter of time is getting old.

I don't disagree. As a fan, I'm getting antsy for tangible March results. I can live with an early exit, March happens, but it would be easier to stomach with a Big East title or two in the bank.

The thing is, I'm also nervous about starting over. Say Wojo did leave, after 2020 most of our leaders leave, there would be more transfers, recruiting connections would need to be rebuilt. It would be even more waiting.

[f/k/a humanlung]

You are right. Maybe we need to start asking a key question
What the hell did Wojo learn in his 15-20 years at Duke, besides how to make awesome power points?

Duke, for the most part, has the athletes that allow them to play their game no matter who the opponent.

There are exceptions to this from time to time but for the most part it's true.  I believe Wojo has demonstrated repeatedly his unwillingness or inability to change the plan of attack (or defense) because of the way Duke was able to play.

This is why he should be forced to hire a Hank/Wainwright in the off-season.

[tower912]

100% Ja.

[skianth16]

Murray State is not impressive. Similarly, Wojo is  not impressive. Put the two together, and you get a made for TV special.

Let's just hope Wojo can learn from this. Personally, I remain skeptical. But I'm hopeful, nonetheless.

[skianth16]

Dumb.

Blind allegiance is dumb. Open your eyes. Make Wojo earn your respect. Hes so mediocre it hurts. Your fanboy status reeks of spilled kool-aid.

[jonny09]

Murray State is not impressive. Similarly, Wojo is  not impressive. Put the two together, and you get a made for TV special.

Let's just hope Wojo can learn from this. Personally, I remain skeptical. But I'm hopeful, nonetheless.

I 2nd this on every level.

[nyg]

Debbie the analyst:  "Give Ja his points and stay home with the others". FSU plan to perfection, they had the players to pull it off. 

Two blowouts tonight and Gonzaga looking like another. 

[Cheeks]

Blind allegiance is dumb. Open your eyes. Make Wojo earn your respect. Hes so mediocre it hurts. Your fanboy status reeks of spilled kool-aid.

I'm not blindly loyal to anyone.  Wojo has improved since he got here. Doesn't mean he is the end all be all....who we going to get?  I see a group of you bitch every God Damn day, but no solutions.  Who are we replacing him with?  You know we only get assistants, what assistant are we hiring?  Please, instead of your incessant bitching....name who we are going to get that is going to knock it out of the park.

[CleanishProgram]

I'm not blindly loyal to anyone.  Wojo has improved since he got here. Doesn't mean he is the end all be all....who we going to get?  I see a group of you bitch every God Damn day, but no solutions.  Who are we replacing him with?  You know we only get assistants, what assistant are we hiring?  Please, instead of your incessant bitching....name who we are going to get that is going to knock it out of the park.

Uh uh Tom Izzo.

Your game is tired. Obviously the BOT can end its relationship with Wojo but it cant just pluck who it wants to replace him, so what is the point of playing your game.

My answer is Tom Izzo.

Cheeks: "AHHH THATS RIDICULOUS YOU CANT GET TOM IZZO."

You are asking this question so you can just get the upper hand and crap on the identified candidate, even though none of us have any idea who is available.

I would honestly rather hire you so we could move on and give up on this Wojo charade.

[hairy worthen]

I'm not blindly loyal to anyone.  Wojo has improved since he got here. Doesn't mean he is the end all be all....who we going to get?  I see a group of you bitch every God Damn day, but no solutions.  Who are we replacing him with?  You know we only get assistants, what assistant are we hiring?  Please, instead of your incessant bitching....name who we are going to get that is going to knock it out of the park.

idiotic statement. Its not scoop posters job to hire a competent coach. So by your logic we should hang on to a mediocre coach because some fan on scoop can't find a better replacement. what a ridiculous argument even for you. not saying we should get rid of wojo yet but not getting rid of a coach because a fan can't find someone better. yikes.

[jonny09]

idiotic statement. Its not scoop posters job to hire a competent coach. So by your logic we should hang on to a mediocre coach because some fan on scoop can't find a better replacement. what a ridiculous argument even for you. not saying we should get rid of wojo yet but not getting rid of a coach because a fan can't find someone better. yikes.

Truer words have never been spoken

[Hards Alumni]

Is Jesus not a choice?  I blame God and Jesus.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Is Jesus not a choice?  I blame God and Jesus.

He's coaching liberty at the moment. 

[skianth16]

I'm not blindly loyal to anyone.  Wojo has improved since he got here. Doesn't mean he is the end all be all....who we going to get?  I see a group of you bitch every God Damn day, but no solutions.  Who are we replacing him with?  You know we only get assistants, what assistant are we hiring?  Please, instead of your incessant bitching....name who we are going to get that is going to knock it out of the park.

It doesn't matter who gets recommended. You'll refuse to accept all of them. That's your thing.

At the end of the day, I could coach the team to a 20 point loss to a mid major. For some reason, you seem to think Wojos performance matters less than his image. As a fan, I just dont buy that.

[hairy worthen]

Is Jesus not a choice?  I blame God and Jesus.

jesus = crapshoot. need 5 years years to judge.

[willie warrior]

Dumb.

You are right. Wojo learned nothing=dumb

[rocky_warrior]

At the end of the day, I could coach the team to a 20 point loss to a mid major.

You see, this statement makes the rest of yours seem less than "well reasoned".  For future reference.

[CleanishProgram]

Is Jesus not a choice?  I blame God and Jesus.

Jesus Shuttlesworth would actually be a better coach

[skianth16]

You see, this statement makes the rest of yours seem less than "well reasoned".  For future reference.

Sure, it's a bit exaggerated. But the point is that Wojos coaching didnt gain us very much against MSU. And that is very well exemplified by seeing the drubbing they took today against a veteran coach.

Do you think the team would have lost by significantly more if they had a skianth gameplan vs the Wojo gameplan?

[Warrior_2002]

Wojo. Easy answer.  No good adjustments second half.  Continuous doubling of Morant was bad enough but doubling other guys on MSU was a very poor decision.

[bilsu]

I miss Buzz. The Murray state game in '12 was a war. We had the toughness to get by them. This team and culture is pathetic.

This game reminded me of Marquette vs. UNC. Buzz's game plan in that game was wrong. The only chance we had to beat UNC was to hit three pointers. Buzz was afraid of UNC's fast break off of misses, so he did not allow the team to take any outside shots. He kept having the team feed the ball to O'tule, who I believe ended up with zero points. Maybe we do not win either of these games, but in both cases the coach's game plan took away our chance to win the game.

[willie warrior]

Yeah, but FSU has like 7 Baileys (and a Christ Koumadje).

I don't disagree. As a fan, I'm getting antsy for tangible March results. I can live with an early exit, March happens, but it would be easier to stomach with a Big East title or two in the bank.

The thing is, I'm also nervous about starting over. Say Wojo did leave, after 2020 most of our leaders leave, there would be more transfers, recruiting connections would need to be rebuilt. It would be even more waiting.

So FSU has 7 guys that cannot shoot? Or 7 guys that play average defense.

[rocket surgeon]

Players,didn't come to play!  Period!  They looked uninspired

  If wojo is making any changes in game plans during the game, I don't see it. I don't see us adapting to changes made by other teams on us.  I think one of the big reasons for our late. Season collapse was that other teams saw what we were doing well to beat other teams and went after it. 

A pitcher comes into a game mowing down batters.  Good hitters figure out what he's doing and make him pay 2nd and,3rd time thru

Wojo, at least from what I saw and obviously with the results, made little to no changes OR if he did, they weren't adequate