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HutchwasClutch

Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2019, 10:10:54 PM
Hutch
I do believe there is nice number of scoopers grasping for that glimmer of hope. I think the rumor is more fools gold than the season was, so sitting back and waiting for updates.

I do too and I'm one of them.

And I also think it will turn out to be a load of crap rumor

Goose

Hutch
I would be shocked if any truth to the rumor.

Jon

Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2019, 10:22:49 PM
Hutch
I would be shocked if any truth to the rumor.

A man driving a Plymouth can dream of a Porsche, hey?

4everwarriors

Like him or not, Bruce Pearl can fookin' coach, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Goose

Agreed on Pearl. Some guys just seem to win wherever they go. Those type of guys are seldom crowd favorites outside of their current job.

jutaw22mu

My vote for Wojo's replacement is Muffet McGraw.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2019, 10:49:06 PM
Agreed on Pearl. Some guys just seem to win wherever they go. Those type of guys are seldom crowd favorites outside of their current job.

Let's see how he does in Leavenworth. His skills may not transfer there. He has left undie swirls every place he's been.

Goose

Dr. B

Not a fan of his, simply saying guys like him seem to win regardless of address. He might be biggest jag off ever, but I can dispute he can flat out coach.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2019, 10:57:09 PM
Dr. B

Not a fan of his, simply saying guys like him seem to win regardless of address. He might be biggest jag off ever, but I can dispute he can flat out coach.

I am not just talking about being a jag...talking about his NCAA/FBI residue that he leaves after every stop.

Goose

Dr. B
I knew what you were talking about and my saying "guys like him" was referring to him and others under investigation.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2019, 11:02:00 PM
Dr. B
I knew what you were talking about and my saying "guys like him" was referring to him and others under investigation.

At least he bumped off one other criminal tonight.

muguru

Quote from: NickelDimer on March 23, 2019, 09:59:01 PM
Oh I have no doubt in the long run we'd be fine, if not better off. There are many coaches who would be an upgrade to Wojo. But roster turnover typically comes with a coaching change and another rebuild would really suck.

Nah...I really think IF it happened, Sam would stay(he'd be a Senior, why transfer)?? Which means Joey would stay, and if Markus came back...keep those three and they'd be fine
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I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: muguru on March 23, 2019, 11:11:16 PM
Nah...I really think IF it happened, Sam would stay(he'd be a Senior, why transfer)?? Which means Joey would stay, and if Markus came back...keep those three and they'd be fine

Don't forget,  Joey already redshirted so a transfer would burn a year of eligibility.

The exception would be a grad transfer down the line, if applicable.

Herman Cain

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 23, 2019, 09:49:35 PM
What's the infatuation with Stan? He came from Arizona, brought Markus with him (after UA never offered) and is Wojo's right hand man in running, which I'm told, is the worst game plans in the country. What am I missing?
Stan recruited pretty much the whole team. He also has a better relationship with the players on the team . He could probably get more out of these kids if he was the top dog.

Other than that it's pretty much the back up quarterback syndrome.
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Herman Cain on March 23, 2019, 11:26:53 PM
Stan recruited pretty much the whole team. He also has a better relationship with the players on the team . He could probably get more out of these kids if he was the top dog.

Other than that it's pretty much the back up quarterback syndrome.

Stan did not recruit pretty much the whole team. Wojo is the only one with fingerprints on all the recruits. He's the closer.

But having met Stan he definitely has the ability to make you want to get up and run through a wall.
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onepost

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 23, 2019, 11:52:37 PM

But having met Stan he definitely has the ability to make you want to get up and run through a wall.

See I have heard from friends who met him at the alumni BBQ's the exact opposite: that Stan was a pretty big pretty boy in person and very standoffish.  But your version makes much more sense given his recruiting chops.

MU82

Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2019, 10:57:09 PM
Dr. B

Not a fan of his, simply saying guys like him seem to win regardless of address. He might be biggest jag off ever, but I can dispute he can flat out coach.

Pearl did a hell of a job coaching in the first round, where if the opposing player had just made the 3 FTs after the stoopid foul one of Pearl's well-coached kids committed, Auburn would have been the first of the four 5-seeds to lose to a 12.

But yes, Pearl does have a better resume than Wojo. If one doesn't mind a cheater (and a stoopid one who gets caught) as coach.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Cheeks

Quote from: MU82 on March 24, 2019, 04:01:33 PM
Pearl did a hell of a job coaching in the first round, where if the opposing player had just made the 3 FTs after the stoopid foul one of Pearl's well-coached kids committed, Auburn would have been the first of the four 5-seeds to lose to a 12.

But yes, Pearl does have a better resume than Wojo. If one doesn't mind a cheater (and a stoopid one who gets caught) as coach.

And he turned in another school for.....cheating....and later got busted himself for....cheating.  Pearl is a scumbag, but yes he can coach. 
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

MU82

Quote from: Cheeks on March 23, 2019, 03:19:19 PM
Yup, which is why hiring an assistant each time means we get inexperienced guys.  Hungry, working hard, but inexperienced.  But that's all we can get apparently.

You keep saying this, chicos, but it's patently untrue.

We could get any number of mid-major coaches, as we have in the past in Dukiet and Deane -- and, for that matter, Al.

Name the top 10 mid-major coaches -- Oats, the Murray State guy, and so on -- and I'm pretty sure that if we offered Wojo money for a shot to coach a BEast program that spends big bucks on basketball and already includes the Hausers (who almost surely wouldn't go anywhere), and we probably would have our choice of several of them.

Since the Al Era (which includes Al holdovers Hank and Rick), however, we have had far and away our best success hiring the No. 1 assistant away from top programs -- KO, TC and Buzz.

Which might be what you meant, but that isn't what you are saying.

I mean, I don't know for 100% certain, but I'm pretty sure that if we called Oats today and offered him $2 million a year to come here (plus a buyout of the extension he just signed), he'd be on the next plane.

Anyhoo, this is all great fun to talk about, but it's all "mute" (as Piniella used to say) because Wojo ain't going anywhere. Including Vegas.
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MU82

Indeed, to continue my thought ... we seemingly could have gotten Cuonzo Martin or Ben Howland, neither of whom is either an unproven assistant or a relatively unproven mid-major coach.
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Goose

MU 82

Spot on. More importantly, the top assistants were found by outside group of former players. KO was hand delivered to MU, as we Crean. There is a very long list of HC's that would jump at MU job. They have gone different direction, but of course they can hire a HC.

Lastly, it is a foolish debate at the moment. I do not believe there is any legs to the Wojo rumor.

Cheeks

Quote from: MU82 on March 24, 2019, 04:10:52 PM
Indeed, to continue my thought ... we seemingly could have gotten Cuonzo Martin or Ben Howland, neither of whom is either an unproven assistant or a relatively unproven mid-major coach.

Howland would have been just fine.  Proven track record from several major programs.  But could we have gotten him?  Martin, felt like he was playing us the whole time.

I'll believe it when I see it....high major program we get a coach from there.  I mean a P6 school.  I don't see it, happy to eat crow if it does.

"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

MU82

Quote from: Cheeks on March 24, 2019, 04:16:31 PM
Howland would have been just fine.  Proven track record from several major programs.  But could we have gotten him? 

Well, he was out of coaching and was publicly begging for the job.

As was Cuonzo, who (as you say) might have been playing us.

I do agree that some Scoopers who think we could lure away a proven, high-major coach making big bucks for a successful program are delusional.

If and when Wojo leaves or is fired, we almost surely will be choosing between an assistant at a great program and one of the mid-major flavors of the month. As usual.
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

cheebs09

#373
Quote from: Cheeks on March 24, 2019, 04:16:31 PM
Howland would have been just fine.  Proven track record from several major programs.  But could we have gotten him?  Martin, felt like he was playing us the whole time.

I'll believe it when I see it....high major program we get a coach from there.  I mean a P6 school.  I don't see it, happy to eat crow if it does.

Howland wanted the MU job, but it wasn't too long after the SI article that painted him in a very bad light. After Buzz, I think that was a non-starter.

Boston Warrior

Wojo is staying imo

The Marquette job is very attractive now. Same new arena as the bucks with Giannas is an emerging factor. Talent in Midwest is up and budget is good.

I believe they could attract a hc from a power 6.

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