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NorthernDancerColt

Zenyatta has a lot....a lot... of ground to make up. She gets there from here she'd be a super horse......what's this.....Zenyatta hooked to the grandstand side....Zenyatta flying on the outside....this....is...un-belieeeeeevable!...looked impossible at the top of the stretch...

Cheeks

Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 22, 2019, 11:14:24 PM
11 seed Pomeroy rankings (includes 2 "play in" winners) :

St Marys   29
Ohio St     46
Belmont    50
ASU          59

Average ranking:46

12 seed Pomeroy rankings:

Oregon     33
Murray St 44
N Mx St    53
Liberty     58

Average ranking:47

Conclusion: Chico is full of it. Again.

How?  All four 12 seeds were better than the worst 11.  Murray State ranke$ higher than THREE of the 11 seeds.  Which is exactly my point, I would rather have had three of the 11 seeds that were worse than Murray as a 12.  Not full of it at all, apparently you can't read your own numbers you wrote. 
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

NickelDimer

Quote from: Marcus92 on March 22, 2019, 03:01:58 PM


You don't have to believe in Wojo. But it seems pretty clear the administration (i.e. the people who hired him and pay his salary) does. If you still want to discuss potential replacements, why waste everyone's time with completely unrealistic suggestions or comparisons?
Well that's a bit dramatic, but ok I'll give you a serious candidate who could replace Woj; Nate Oats. Homegrown kid who's already proven to be a better tourney coach than Steve.
No Finish Line

nyg

Quote from: NickelDimer on March 23, 2019, 08:11:02 AM
Well that's a bit dramatic, but ok I'll give you a serious candidate who could replace Woj; Nate Oats. Homegrown kid who's already proven to be a better tourney coach than Steve.

A week ago, he signed a five year extension with Buffalo. 

DiaperDandy

Quote from: nyg on March 23, 2019, 08:27:01 AM
A week ago, he signed a five year extension with Buffalo. 

That extension includes a $750,000 buyout.  We can afford that.  His base salary is $835,000 with $225,000 being covered by donations to the athletic department.  If MU came calling and offered 1.5 mil i think he would at least listen.

I am a huge Nate Oates fan.  I live in Buffalo and have been following UB all year and have been to a few of their games.
I love the style of basketball they play and how hard his kids play for him (look at the game yesterday for example...up 17 with less than 10 to play and they are diving on the ground for a loose ball).

UB plays unselfish basketball and passes so well.  They may not beat Texas Tech tomorrow, however, I can tell you they will come out and give it their all.  This team is not soft.

MUfan12

They had MU on skates for about 30 minutes back in December. Outstanding ball and people movement on offense.

Mr. Sand-Knit

I do not want to see Wojo leave if/when he does i would like to see

TJ Otzelberger at MU
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

NickelDimer

Quote from: nyg on March 23, 2019, 08:27:01 AM
A week ago, he signed a five year extension with Buffalo.
I'm sure we can afford his buyout after next season. That's pretty SOP
No Finish Line

Goose

First off, Wojo is not going anywhere over next few years, unless he decides to move on. Secondly, I would doubt if MU would embrace the Buffalo style of program. To me, it has a feel of mini Buzz environment and we know how original version ended here. MU has exactly the type of program they want to have and are comfortable in that decision. No fearing a phone call in middle of the night over off court issues popping up.

MUfan12

Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2019, 09:10:30 AM
First off, Wojo is not going anywhere over next few years, unless he decides to move on. Secondly, I would doubt if MU would embrace the Buffalo style of program. To me, it has a feel of mini Buzz environment and we know how original version ended here. MU has exactly the type of program they want to have and are comfortable in that decision. No fearing a phone call in middle of the night over off court issues popping up.

This... This is something.

NickelDimer

No Finish Line

nyg

Quote from: NickelDimer on March 23, 2019, 09:04:01 AM
I'm sure we can afford his buyout after next season. That's pretty SOP

Of course they could, but MU not going to waste 750K at this point. 

Would like to see how Oates would recruit, since he is now at a mid major, and what are his ties to the various AAU circuit.
Its one thing to be an X and O's guy, but need the players to reach success.   

Warrior_2002

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 23, 2019, 08:50:23 AM
I do not want to see Wojo leave if/when he does i would like to see

TJ Otzelberger at MU

I like TJ but not sure if he's the guy for a Marquette level job yet.  Wouldn't be against him here though.

Dr. Blackheart

#238
Quote from: nyg on March 23, 2019, 09:20:04 AM
Of course they could, but MU not going to waste 750K at this point. 

Would like to see how Oates would recruit, since he is now at a mid major, and what are his ties to the various AAU circuit.
Its one thing to be an X and O's guy, but need the players to reach success.   

Well, Oats was the recruiter for Hurley at Buffalo as an assistant.  Was the head coach at Romulus HS in Detroit for a long time.  So, that has been established and so has his pipeline. Main question for any head coaching job is his wife's health and care, which is why I don't think he moves to any other job.

cheese ball chaser

Quote from: Floor Slaps on March 23, 2019, 09:23:22 AM
I like TJ but not sure if he's the guy for a Marquette level job yet.  Wouldn't be against him here though.

What is a "Marquette level" job? A program with 0 NCAA tournament wins in the past 5 years?

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

People that look at Wojo and Marquette and think that abandoning ship now and starting over is the best plan, are one or more of the following:

-Ignorant

-Dumb

-Clueless

-Need a serious reality check.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

Warrior_2002

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Cheeks

Quote from: NickelDimer on March 23, 2019, 08:11:02 AM
Well that's a bit dramatic, but ok I'll give you a serious candidate who could replace Woj; Nate Oats. Homegrown kid who's already proven to be a better tourney coach than Steve.

The same Nate Oats that Wojo kicked his ass in a few months ago? Their worst loss of the season I believe.  So because Oats got to go up against a horrible ASU team, that makes him a better coach?  How would Buffalo have done against Murray State? 
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Cheeks

Quote from: MUfan12 on March 23, 2019, 08:48:26 AM
They had MU on skates for about 30 minutes back in December. Outstanding ball and people movement on offense.

MU gave Buffalo an 18 point loss.  Markus lit them up.  Apparently the boy genius couldn't figure out how to stop us when others could.

"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Badgerhater

I am not in the fire Wojo camp.   But I will be happy when he leaves.

For the Civil War buffs he is George McClellan.  Knows how to build an army but doesn't know how to use it.

NickelDimer

#245
Quote from: Cheeks on March 23, 2019, 09:45:26 AM
The same Nate Oats that Wojo kicked his ass in a few months ago? Their worst loss of the season I believe.  So because Oats got to go up against a horrible ASU team, that makes him a better coach?  How would Buffalo have done against Murray State?
The same Oats who's resume is already more impressive than Wojo's. Yep, him. The one who knew how to prepare his team for postseason play. Yep. Oh, and give that same Oats a player who scored 40 points with unconscious shooting in a half and see whether he gets "outcoached" by Wojo. Jeez cheeks. What a shallow understanding you just displayed.

Only you would credit the coach for riding the coat tails of an almost superhuman second half performance after he built a whopping 1 point lead at half. Oh, and at home
No Finish Line

jesmu84

Quote from: NickelDimer on March 23, 2019, 10:03:48 AM
The same Oats who's resume is already more impressive than Wojo's. Yep, him. The one who knew how to prepare his team for postseason play. Yep. Oh, and give that same Oats a player who scored 40 points with unconscious shooting in a half and see whether he gets "outcoached" by Wojo. Jeez cheeks. What a shallow understanding you just displayed.

Only you would credit the coach for riding the coat tails of an almost superhuman second half performance after he built a whopping 1 point lead at half. Oh, and at home

So the nuance of how Marquette lost to Murray state doesn't matter because at the end of the day, it's a loss.

But the nuance of how buffalo lost to Marquette matters, even though at the end of the day, it's a loss.

Fair enough.

Cheeks

Quote from: NickelDimer on March 23, 2019, 10:03:48 AM
The same Oats who's resume is already more impressive than Wojo's. Yep, him. The one who knew how to prepare his team for postseason play. Yep. Oh, and give that same Oats a player who scored 40 points with unconscious shooting in a half and see whether he gets "outcoached" by Wojo. Jeez cheeks. What a shallow understanding you just displayed.

Only you would credit the coach for riding the coat tails of an almost superhuman second half performance after he built a whopping 1 point lead at half. Oh, and at home

The one that couldn't figure out how to stop us and lost by nearly 20, against the coach that you say is terrible.  So a data point we have right in front of our eyes, you ignore again.  Classic.  Why couldn't Oats figure it out?  In fact, in the press conference he admitted they couldn't figure it out. 

And how they lost to us matters, but how we lost to a better team and best player on the court in Murray State, that should be ignored?  Your double standards are awesome.

Who else you got since Oats isn't coming and you have been whiffing the logic train the last few days.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Pakuni

Quote from: NickelDimer on March 23, 2019, 08:11:02 AM
Well that's a bit dramatic, but ok I'll give you a serious candidate who could replace Woj; Nate Oats. Homegrown kid who's already proven to be a better tourney coach than Steve.

Hasn't all of Oats' success has come with another coach's recruits?

brewcity77

The only scenario in which Wojo isn't here is if Arizona fires Miller. Then maybe they add Wojo with the assurance that he brings Stan along, which helps retain their recruiting class while also cleaning up the program.

If so...tear it all down and start over again, which doesn't sound any fun at all.

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