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Guy Fieri's Dad

Quote from: f/k/a humanlung on March 21, 2019, 05:50:30 PM
I'm carrying a sledgehammer to bash Wojo with but I believe we beat #1 Villanova two years ago.  That was tangible.

How?

skianth16

Quote from: Cheeks on March 21, 2019, 08:18:25 PM
Actually, not always.  Dominic James didn't.  Duane Wilson didn't.  Sandy Cohen didn't.  Derrick Wilson, nope.  Juan Anderson...not really.  Etc etc

The point was, someone said the players aren't coached up, seemingly don't improve.  Uhm, ok.  Whatever.

Some do, some do slower rate, some don't at all.  Sometimes that is on the coach, sometimes on the player.

Didn't James get a good amount of NBA attention after his sophomore year?

Guy Fieri's Dad

Quote from: Cheeks on March 21, 2019, 05:57:06 PM
Simple.  We are back in the tournament, will be again next year.  I expect to be better next year. 

Final straw is when we don't go to the NCAAs multiple years or NCAA violations.  Until then, looking forward to next year since no one has any real alternatives and just wants to pout today.

2 tourneys 2x getting run out the building

Cheeks

Quote from: skianth16 on March 21, 2019, 08:39:05 PM
Didn't James get a good amount of NBA attention after his sophomore year?

Nope.  His freshman year he did.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Cheeks

Quote from: Guy Fieri's Dad on March 21, 2019, 08:39:44 PM
2 tourneys 2x getting run out the building

Yup, one to a Final Four team and today to what might be the second best player in the country...let's see how far they go.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 21, 2019, 07:47:26 PM
Defending Wojo's performance in this debacle doesn't take grit or deserve credit. It takes foolishness and deserves scorn.

I have yet to see one person defend Wojo's performance today.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


4everwarriors

Have ya talked ta da BOT, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

NickelDimer

By the way since the original question posed by the OP wasn't really addressed in the responses I'll offer up a name; Shaka Smart. I can see next year being his last at TX and I can see next year being Wojo's last at MU. I think his style is a perfect fit for the original Warrior brand.
No Finish Line

LAZER

Quote from: NickelDimer on March 22, 2019, 11:37:36 AM
By the way since the original question posed by the OP wasn't really addressed in the responses I'll offer up a name; Shaka Smart. I can see next year being his last at TX and I can see next year being Wojo's last at MU. I think his style is a perfect fit for the original Warrior brand.
Hasn't been to the Sweet 16 since '11.

NickelDimer

Quote from: LAZER on March 22, 2019, 11:46:41 AM
Hasn't been to the Sweet 16 since '11.
I still think he's a great coach and has a proven record of success.
No Finish Line

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: NickelDimer on March 22, 2019, 11:53:16 AM
I still think he's a great coach and has a proven record of success.

If you don't like Wojo's trend line, you really won't like Shaka's.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


LAZER

Quote from: NickelDimer on March 22, 2019, 11:53:16 AM
I still think he's a great coach and has a proven record of success.
Are you just ignoring his last 4 years at Texas?

NickelDimer

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 22, 2019, 11:55:49 AM
If you don't like Wojo's trend line, you really won't like Shaka's.
I think he's a much better coach than Wojo. I'll throw out another name while I'm at it; Mick Cronin. His style also fits what I associate with the Warrior brand.
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Da 'Lanche

Lure Doc Rivers out of the NBA.   Would probably be the name that would resonate with current players to maintain the roster and resonate with recruits as a guy who can help them toward the nba.   Plus, the big east would be the trendsetter with multiple former players coaching their former schools.

Would anyone not trade Wojo for Doc in a minute?   Plus, since Doc was in on his hire...he sorta owes us....

One can dream

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: NickelDimer on March 22, 2019, 11:57:05 AM
I think he's a much better coach than Wojo. I'll throw out another name while I'm at it; Mick Cronin. His style also fits what I associate with the Warrior brand.

Yeesh. If you don't like early exits from the tournament that's a really rough choice. 1 Sweet 16 ever.

That being said, I agree Mick is a great coach and would be happy if he was our coach. I don't see why he would leave his alma mater for here.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


LAZER

Quote from: NickelDimer on March 22, 2019, 11:57:05 AM
I think he's a much better coach than Wojo. I'll throw out another name while I'm at it; Mick Cronin. His style also fits what I associate with the Warrior brand.
Jesus.  Cronin isn't leaving Cincinnati for Marquette.  Did you literally just pick the first coach you saw on TV?

Billy Hoyle

#191
Quote from: Da 'Lanche on March 22, 2019, 11:57:23 AM
Lure Doc Rivers out of the NBA.   Would probably be the name that would resonate with current players to maintain the roster and resonate with recruits as a guy who can help them toward the nba.   Plus, the big east would be the trendsetter with multiple former players coaching their former schools.

Would anyone not trade Wojo for Doc in a minute?   Plus, since Doc was in on his hire...he sorta owes us....

One can dream

As we know, former NBA coaches have a track record of massive success in college ball. Right, Chris Mullin, Mike Dunleavey, Avery Johnson, Terry Porter and Isiah Thomas?

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22763512/penny-hardaway-former-nba-all-stars-struggling-college-head-coaches
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

NickelDimer

Quote from: LAZER on March 22, 2019, 12:02:48 PM
Jesus.  Cronin isn't leaving Cincinnati for Marquette.  Did you literally just pick the first coach you saw on TV?
I live in Cincinnati. What is sad though is I can watch TV all day today and identify better coaches than Woj
No Finish Line

jutaw22mu

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 22, 2019, 12:02:56 PM
Quote from: Da 'Lanche on March 22, 2019, 11:57:23 AM
Lure Doc Rivers out of the NBA.   Would probably be the name that would resonate with current players to maintain the roster and resonate with recruits as a guy who can help them toward the nba.   Plus, the big east would be the trendsetter with multiple former players coaching their former schools.

Would anyone not trade Wojo for Doc in a minute?   Plus, since Doc was in on his hire...he sorta owes us....

One can dream
[/quote

As we know, former NBA coaches have a track record of massive success in college ball. Right, Chris Mullin, Mike Dunleavey, Avery Johnson, Terry Porter and Isiah Thomas?

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22763512/penny-hardaway-former-nba-all-stars-struggling-college-head-coaches

Doc Rivers >>>>> Hue Jackson > Wojo

Cheeks

#194
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 22, 2019, 11:55:49 AM
If you don't like Wojo's trend line, you really won't like Shaka's.

Yup, massive irony on that one.

Better salary, state flagship school, largest athletic department in the country in terms of revenue, huge recruiting base, but he gets love.

The double standards here are incredible sometimes.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Cheeks

Quote from: NickelDimer on March 22, 2019, 11:57:05 AM
I think he's a much better coach than Wojo. I'll throw out another name while I'm at it; Mick Cronin. His style also fits what I associate with the Warrior brand.

Another guy that you would demand be fired in a few years, besides we only hire assistant coaches.

What assistant are you hiring?
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Cheeks

Quote from: NickelDimer on March 22, 2019, 12:03:27 PM
I live in Cincinnati. What is sad though is I can watch TV all day today and identify better coaches than Woj

Based on who you have offered up so far in your examples Brother NickelDimer, you clearly cannot.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

NickelDimer

Quote from: Cheeks on March 22, 2019, 12:07:01 PM
Yup, massive irony on that one.

Better salary, state flagship school, largest athletic department in the country in terms of revenue, but he gets love.

The double standards here are incredible sometimes.
Sometimes it's a matter of being a poor fit. You're a believer in fits being important in life? Shaka Smart is a better coach than Woj and has a resume to prove it. If you believe he went to TX and suddenly forgot how to coach I don't know what to tell you
No Finish Line

79Warrior

Quote from: Cheeks on March 21, 2019, 08:43:18 PM
Yup, one to a Final Four team and today to what might be the second best player in the country...let's see how far they go.

True. But two bad losses nonetheless.

NickelDimer

Quote from: Cheeks on March 22, 2019, 12:09:53 PM
Based on who you have offered up so far in your examples Brother NickelDimer, you clearly cannot.
My four year old can. She simply has to be facing the TV and pointing at most any game on. And yes Mick Cronin is actually quite a bit better at coaching than Woj.
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