Wojo’s replacement.

[Jon]

Porky is as disappointed as everyone.

Porky is disappointed. What about his Butthole (sic)?

[Cheeks]

How many tourney wins do those coaches have?

None this year, didn't even make it....how dare they get paid more than Wojo by a huge amount and not even bother to make the tournament.  They must be really bad.

[Lennys Tap]

At any rate, I give credit to you and Cheeks for at least coming on here and defending Wojo after that debacle. That takes grit.

Defending Wojo's performance in this debacle doesn't take grit or deserve credit. It takes foolishness and deserves scorn.

[Cheeks]

Right now, I feel that wojo is not a very good coach.  He doesn't seem to  "coach the players up."  He also doesn't seem to be a very good game coach.  He's a nice guy, but, certainly does not deserve a raise.

Serious question for you

Anim better now or as a freshman or sophomore
Howard better now or as a freshman or sophomore
John better now or as a freshman
Sam better now or as a freshman or sophomore


Statistically, conference accolades, etc, all suggest they got better.  We test does, too.

Do you disagree?  Those coaches weren't coached up? 

[Cheeks]

I get it.  You make a valid point that not all big name, high salaried coaches succeed.  But the question is not about the other programs, the question is about Marquette. 

Is Marquette on the path to high level success?  Perhaps more importantly, is the goal for Marquette high level success?

I answer "no" to both questions.

If middling performance is the goal, then Wojo and Marquette have succeeded.

Top 2 in a major conference and making the NCAA tournament is middling?  Is that the definition?

[WolfganghisKhan]

Top 2 in a major conference and making the NCAA tournament is middling?  Is that the definition?

Less tournament wins than UMBC the last 5 years is middling.

[Cheeks]

Chico's "gritty" defense of Wojo--He didn't have any negative stories written about any of his players in the Chicago Tribune.

Nope, my defense is we have gone from a non NIT team and a lot of bad stuff off the court, to a team that has made three straight post season appearances after rebuild.  Next year will be NCAA again.  Those are facts, but feel free to attack with fake comments as you often do.

[WhiteTrash]

None this year, didn't even make it....how dare they get paid more than Wojo by a huge amount and not even bother to make the tournament.  They must be really bad.

Now you're either joking or trolling. Do I laugh or ignore?

[#UnleashSean]

Sean Miller making $4M, not in tournament - 4 elite 8's, 3 sweet 16's, 11 Ncaa appearances  (Talking about firing)
Bob Huggins making $3.6M, not in tournament - 23 ncaa appearances, 5 sweet 16's, 2 elite 8's, 2 final fours
Larry Krystoviak making $3.4M, not in tournament - 4 ncaa appearances, 1 sweet 16
Archie Miller making $3.2M, not in tournament - 4 ncaa apperances, 1 elite 8 (Mid major)
Shaka Smart making $3.1M, not in tournament - 7 ncaa apperances, 1 final four (Majority mid major)
Gregg Marshall (everyone's flavor of the year the last few years, making $3M, not in tournament - 13 ncaa apperances, 1 final four (mid majors)


I wont bother with the rest.

[Uncle Rico]

My top 5 choices in no particular order:

Tony Bennett
John Calipari
Billy Donovan
Rick Pitino
Kevin Ollie

[Cheeks]

Why would you suddenly just want wardle?? No way in hell he was on your radar before today.

Flavor of the month every year when fans of their ncaa team loses and the emotional tantrum candidate list comes to the head.  Gregg Marshall is currently not the flavor of the month, apparently....but he sure was last few years.

Porter Moses had his flavor revoked.  Today it is Wardle.  Danny Manning was pushed hard by people here 5 years ago.

It is so funny to watch the flavor of the month wheel.

[Cheeks]

Was this a pro or anti-Wojo post?

It was factual, something this thread needs.

[Cheeks]

Less tournament wins than UMBC the last 5 years is middling.

Crapshoot.  A lot of coaches can be lumped into that, including Buzz Williams.  That doesn't mean Buzz's team doesn't go to the Elite 8 this year and the dry humping will go to town on this board. 

[#UnleashSean]

Serious question for you

Anim better now or as a freshman or sophomore
Howard better now or as a freshman or sophomore
John better now or as a freshman
Sam better now or as a freshman or sophomore


Statistically, conference accolades, etc, all suggest they got better.  We test does, too.

Do you disagree?  Those coaches weren't coached up?

News flash, 18 year olds progress when they turn 19. Shocker to everyone.

[tower912]

Wojo has met my expectations every single season.    Before this season, I predicted 22-24 regular season wins, top 3 in the Big East, and a 5 seed in the tourney.   Hell, in floorslapper's 'will this team win a tournament game' thread, I predicted a 5-12 upset.  That was in November and mostly meant as a joke.   But still.......

So he has met my expectations every year.    Assuming the core comes back and McEwen and GE are what we hope they are, my expectations for next year are higher.      But at the end of the day, the powers that be wanted the anti-Buzz.    They got him.   The other top candidates at the time were Shaka (snicker), Cuonzo (moved on how many times?) and Howland.    Quite the list.    And now so many want Wojo gone.    And replaced with?       Never mind.    Moot point.    Not happening.     

Time to sit back and see what changes happen to the roster.   

[Cheeks]

Now you're either joking or trolling. Do I laugh or ignore?

If you don't like facts, which is what I am using, I would suggest ignore.

[Cheeks]

Sean Miller making $4M, not in tournament - 4 elite 8's, 3 sweet 16's, 11 Ncaa appearances  (Talking about firing)
Bob Huggins making $3.6M, not in tournament - 23 ncaa appearances, 5 sweet 16's, 2 elite 8's, 2 final fours
Larry Krystoviak making $3.4M, not in tournament - 4 ncaa appearances, 1 sweet 16
Archie Miller making $3.2M, not in tournament - 4 ncaa apperances, 1 elite 8 (Mid major)
Shaka Smart making $3.1M, not in tournament - 7 ncaa apperances, 1 final four (Majority mid major)
Gregg Marshall (everyone's flavor of the year the last few years, making $3M, not in tournament - 13 ncaa apperances, 1 final four (mid majors)


I wont bother with the rest.

Yet couldn't find a way to make it despite twice the salary....I mean WTH, how is it possible with their brain power, their coaching acumen, the investment in them as coaches they they don't get to the tournament.....indefensible apparently. If lowly Wojo who cannot coach and makes a meager $2M gets in, how in the hell can these guys not?  🤔

[Cheeks]

My top 5 choices in no particular order:

Tony Bennett
John Calipari
Billy Donovan
Rick Pitino
Kevin Ollie

Outstanding!!!  But as already mentioned, MU can only get assistants so please list the assistants coming over.

[Uncle Rico]

Outstanding!!!  But as already mentioned, MU can only get assistants so please list the assistants coming over.

In that case, someone willing to cheat and shove players

[WhiteTrash]

It was factual, something this thread needs.

Did I question your facts?

Please reread my post.

[Porky's Butthole]

Wojo has met my expectations every single season.    Before this season, I predicted 22-24 regular season wins, top 3 in the Big East, and a 5 seed in the tourney.   Hell, in floorslapper's 'will this team win a tournament game' thread, I predicted a 5-12 upset.  That was in November and mostly meant as a joke.   But still.......

So he has met my expectations every year.    Assuming the core comes back and McEwen and GE are what we hope they are, my expectations for next year are higher.      But at the end of the day, the powers that be wanted the anti-Buzz.    They got him.   The other top candidates at the time were Shaka (snicker), Cuonzo (moved on how many times?) and Howland.    Quite the list.    And now so many want Wojo gone.    And replaced with?       Never mind.    Moot point.    Not happening.     

Time to sit back and see what changes happen to the roster.

Sensible post Tower!  Porky concurs!

[Cheeks]

News flash, 18 year olds progress when they turn 19. Shocker to everyone.

Actually, not always.  Dominic James didn't.  Duane Wilson didn't.  Sandy Cohen didn't.  Derrick Wilson, nope.  Juan Anderson...not really.  Etc etc

The point was, someone said the players aren't coached up, seemingly don't improve.  Uhm, ok.  Whatever.

Some do, some do slower rate, some don't at all.  Sometimes that is on the coach, sometimes on the player.

[#UnleashSean]

Actually, not always.  Dominic James didn't.  Duane Wilson didn't.  Sandy Cohen didn't.  Derrick Wilson, nope.  Juan Anderson...not really.  Etc etc

The point was, someone said the players aren't coached up, seemingly don't improve.  Uhm, ok.  Whatever.

Some do, some do slower rate, some don't at all.  Sometimes that is on the coach, sometimes on the player.

I don't think it helps your cause that 4/5 of those players were under wojo's tender.

Also Dominic James definitely improved.

[Cheeks]

I don't think it helps your cause that 4/5 of those players were under wojo's tender.

Also Dominic James definitely improved.

The "newsflash" was they got better because they went from 18 to 19 years old.

The examples I gave, those guys didn't improve in that freshman to sophomore jump as you implied as some universal truism.  It's as if you had never heard the term "sophomore slump" before.

Dominic James sophomore year was lower in PTs, lower in assists, lower in rebounds, lower in blocks, lower Fg%, lower 3FG%, despite more minutes played.  No, he did not improve from 18 to 19 as you stated.

[Guy Fieri's Dad]

What recruiting class we ain't bringing in a top 10 anything