2019 Transfer Thread (Non-grad)

[brewcity77]

Saw the first name of real interest pop up today:

Sources: Joel Ntambwe will transfer from UNLV. Averaged 11.8 PPG & 5.5 RPG. Will have three years of eligibility after sitting out a year.

Good rebounder, can shoot the three, 6'9" with a frame that could use a year of strengthening. Maybe Stan can work his left coast contacts. I'd love an athletic big with 3 years eligibility.

[MU82]

I'd love an athletic big with 3 years eligibility.

Isn't that what Ike is?

Seriously, though, thanks for starting this thread. Agree about the UNLV kid.

[muguru]

Saw the first name of real interest pop up today:

Good rebounder, can shoot the three, 6'9" with a frame that could use a year of strengthening. Maybe Stan can work his left coast contacts. I'd love an athletic big with 3 years eligibility.

Was just going to post this..He is a definite, yes please. Would be eligible when Morrow graduates.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Isn't that what Ike is?

Seriously, though, thanks for starting this thread. Agree about the UNLV kid.

Nothing against Ike, but expecting anything out of him at this point is silly. Safe to assume he's done playing competitive basketball, and likely not a scholarship player next season. 

[Pakuni]

Nothing against Ike, but expecting anything out of him at this point is silly. Safe to assume he's done playing competitive basketball, and likely not a scholarship player next season.

I'd like to think whether he plays or not, Ike will have a scholarship long enough to graduate.

[BCHoopster]

I'd like to think whether he plays or not, Ike will have a scholarship long enough to graduate.

yes, he will get a full ride at MU.  But it might be time to move on from him.  He was a project to begin with, he will really be a project with back issues.  Time to move
on and get a transfer or grad transfer.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I'd like to think whether he plays or not, Ike will have a scholarship long enough to graduate.

I mean, I am sure the school will take care of him.  But just giving him 1/13 available scholarships for the next 2 seasons to be nice is pretty dumb, and something they won't do.  Hopefully he is healthy enough to play and they can give him a shot next season.  But if not, I don't think he'll be on the team, unless they are somehow able to give him an academic scholarship and stay on the team as a walk on or manager, which I highly doubt is allowed. 

[brewcity77]

Isn't that what Ike is?

Seriously, though, thanks for starting this thread. Agree about the UNLV kid.

I sincerely hope so. But I'm not against hedging bets.

[Herman Cain]

I mean, I am sure the school will take care of him.  But just giving him 1/13 available scholarships for the next 2 seasons to be nice is pretty dumb, and something they won't do.  Hopefully he is healthy enough to play and they can give him a shot next season.  But if not, I don't think he'll be on the team, unless they are somehow able to give him an academic scholarship and stay on the team as a walk on or manager, which I highly doubt is allowed.

There is a way these situations like Ike are handled and documented .  It is called a medical retirement . The scholarship used is not included in the 13 allowed. Have been through this numerous times with teammates of my kids in other sports . The question here is whether Ike is healthy enough to compete at this level. I am sure we will find out after the season is over.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

There is a way these situations like Ike are handled and documented .  It is called a medical retirement . The scholarship used is not included in the 13 allowed. Have been through this numerous times with teammates of my kids in other sports . The question here is whether Ike is healthy enough to compete at this level. I am sure we will find out after the season is over.

Makes sense.  Assume the Gophers did something similar with Jarvis Johnson who was a big time local recruit that as never able to play due to a heart condition. 

Curious - in this case - I assume you absolutely are unable not allowed to play?

[Herman Cain]

Makes sense.  Assume the Gophers did something similar with Jarvis Johnson who was a big time local recruit that as never able to play due to a heart condition.

For whatever it is worth , Ike looked as if he had been working out a lot when I saw him at the BET. He was about the same size as Joey and pure muscle. Whether  that translates into being able to play is another question.

[Johnny B]

Quinerly eh

[Herman Cain]

Quinerly eh

He has been injured . I think he will step into a starters role next year so it might not be a good move to transfer.

[jsglow]

There is a way these situations like Ike are handled and documented .  It is called a medical retirement . The scholarship used is not included in the 13 allowed. Have been through this numerous times with teammates of my kids in other sports . The question here is whether Ike is healthy enough to compete at this level. I am sure we will find out after the season is over.

Did not know about that avenue.  Thanks for the info.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

There is a way these situations like Ike are handled and documented .  It is called a medical retirement . The scholarship used is not included in the 13 allowed. Have been through this numerous times with teammates of my kids in other sports . The question here is whether Ike is healthy enough to compete at this level. I am sure we will find out after the season is over.

I thought we used this with Liam McMorrow

[jsglow]

Following Herm's valuable contribution, I did some research and found this.  Athletics continues to pay the scholarship until eligibility would have been exhausted.  The kid can just never play his sport again.  It was later explained that the student athlete can refuse the designation if he/she prefers to transfer and thereby maintain eligibility. 

The source actually comes from a discussion of 'Bama football where Saban has 15x the 'Medical Retirement' rate of the average SEC school and the assertion is (correctly, I'll bet) that he literally uses it to 'cut' players thereby circumventing the 85 scholarship limit.  More reason to dislike 'Bama for sure.

Here's the actual text (a 'counter' is an athlete that counts toward scholarship limits):

15.5.1.3 Counter Who Becomes Injured or Ill. A counter who becomes injured or ill to the point that he or she apparently never again will be able to participate in intercollegiate athletics shall not be considered a counter beginning with the academic year following the incapacitating injury or illness.

15.5.1.3.1 Incapacitating Injury or Illness. If an incapacitating injury or illness occurs prior to a prospective student-athlete's or a student-athlete's participation in athletically related activities and results in the student-athlete's inability to compete ever again, the student-athlete shall not be counted within the institution's maximum financial aid award limitations for the current, as well as later academic years. How- ever, if the incapacitating injury or illness occurs on or after the student-athlete's participation in countable athletically related activities in the sport, the student-athlete shall be counted in the institution’s maximum financial aid limitations for the current academic year but need not be counted in later academic years. (Adopted: 1/10/91, Revised: 3/26/04, 9/18/07)

[dgies9156]

I thought we used this with Liam McMorrow

We did.