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LloydsLegs

Markus clearly wasn't 100%.  Here's to hoping he is getting there now.

Only other thought I have on this is that in end game situations, Markus should take advantage of all the attention that he will draw and find his John Paxon or Steve Kerr.  There is at least one of those on this team.

MU82

Quote from: avid1010 on March 19, 2019, 07:32:57 AM
markus is not even close to being one of the best collegiate players to ever play the game.

Correct.

Maybe what WRFF meant to say was that Markus is one of the best scorers in college basketball today.
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UticaBusBarn


As a footnote to this discussion, I wonder what Howard's shooting percentage and turn overs
are in the last five minutes of close games? Forced shoots, turn-overs, and not passing to
open team members come to mind these last 10 games.

Asked in another way, we know Sam has scored under pressure to win. However, has
Marcus ever won one in the last minutes?

I don't ask this to be mean, or negative. I just cannot recall him being the "money" player
at the end of a game.

jesmu84

Quote from: UticaBusBarn on March 19, 2019, 03:37:13 PM
As a footnote to this discussion, I wonder what Howard's shooting percentage and turn overs
are in the last five minutes of close games? Forced shoots, turn-overs, and not passing to
open team members come to mind these last 10 games.

Asked in another way, we know Sam has scored under pressure to win. However, has
Marcus ever won one in the last minutes?

I don't ask this to be mean, or negative. I just cannot recall him being the "money" player
at the end of a game.

Did you miss the OT against Creighton?

BM1090

Quote from: jesmu84 on March 19, 2019, 04:39:12 PM
Did you miss the OT against Creighton?

Also against Louisville he scored an and 1 to cut it to 1. Made the free throw. He missed a runner that Joey followed up for a tap in.

In OT of that game he made two tough mid-range jumpers to give us the lead. One of those was when down by a point with under a minute left.

Providence last year he hit a 3 when down 6 with under a minute left, and then after a stop he got and and 1 layup to tie it.

He had some big baskets at Xavier this year to close that one out. Played well in the OT vs. Wisconsin too. Had a jumper to start OT then some big free throws.

MU82

Quote from: MUeagle1090 on March 19, 2019, 05:18:20 PM
Also against Louisville he scored an and 1 to cut it to 1. Made the free throw. He missed a runner that Joey followed up for a tap in.

In OT of that game he made two tough mid-range jumpers to give us the lead. One of those was when down by a point with under a minute left.

Providence last year he hit a 3 when down 6 with under a minute left, and then after a stop he got and and 1 layup to tie it.

He had some big baskets at Xavier this year to close that one out. Played well in the OT vs. Wisconsin too. Had a jumper to start OT then some big free throws.

Yes, this BS that Markus has not done anything good in the clutch for us is silly.

He also made the perfect pass vs Creighton to Sam, whose shot tied (but didn't win) the game.
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Stretchdeltsig

Quote from: avid1010 on March 19, 2019, 07:32:57 AM
markus is not even close to being one of the best collegiate players to ever play the game.
Wrong.  A healthy Markus is an incredible player.

MU82

Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on March 19, 2019, 07:48:30 PM
Wrong.  A healthy Markus is an incredible player.

There is a pretty big gap between "incredible" and "one of the best ever," no?

I'm one of Markus' staunchest defenders on Scoop, and I wouldn't call him one of the best players in the history of college basketball.
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Stretchdeltsig

Quote from: MU82 on March 19, 2019, 09:16:56 PM
There is a pretty big gap between "incredible" and "one of the best ever," no?

I'm one of Markus' staunchest defenders on Scoop, and I wouldn't call him one of the best players in the history of college basketball.

Why not?  How many players have score 50+ points in a game?

79Warrior

Quote from: MU82 on March 19, 2019, 09:16:56 PM
There is a pretty big gap between "incredible" and "one of the best ever," no?

I'm one of Markus' staunchest defenders on Scoop, and I wouldn't call him one of the best players in the history of college basketball.

I agree

ChitownSpaceForRent

I feel like Markus' current career path is a lot like Scottie Reynolds.

Two tremendously talented players who were two of the most important players for their respective programs due to timing and circumstances, but just not up there in GOAT territory.

Markus probably projects a little better at the next level just because he's a short guard who is one of the best shooters on the planet while Reyonlds was more of a slasher, but both All-American talents who each had their weaknesses.

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