Bracket Matrix has us as a 5 seed

[Cheeks]

K State and Wisconsin both as 4 seeds.

I desperately want to avoid the 5.  I'd rather be a 6 than a 5 because of what happens in the Sweet 16 if you get that far. 

[DoctorV]

K State and Wisconsin both as 4 seeds.

I desperately want to avoid the 5.  I'd rather be a 6 than a 5 because of what happens in the Sweet 16 if you get that far.

6 is out, too many Q1 wins. 3 is likely out (already set)

Either a 5 or 4 unless I'm missinng something. Your point is short sighted tough- you wouldn't rather be a 6 you'd rather be a 4.

Please don't be that guy that argues a 6 over a 4. For what it's worth I think beating Gtown on sat woulda still kept MU alive for a 3 seed via reg season and conf tourney ships but let's get that 4 pls.

[PGsHeroes32]

If we are a 5 basically lock in FSU as the 4.

Unless they set up a rematch with kstate, Wisco or Kansas right away

[Cheeks]

6 is out, too many Q1 wins. 3 is likely out (already set)

Either a 5 or 4 unless I'm missinng something. Your point is short sighted tough- you wouldn't rather be a 6 you'd rather be a 4.

Please don't be that guy that argues a 6 over a 4. For what it's worth I think beating Gtown on sat woulda still kept MU alive for a 3 seed via reg season and conf tourney ships but let's get that 4 pls.

I'd rather be a 6 than a 5.   Sorry if that wasn't clear.   Of course I'd rather be a 4 than a 6.

[GB Warrior]

If we are a 5 basically lock in FSU as the 4.

Unless they set up a rematch with kstate, Wisco or Kansas right away

I feel better about it after tonight, but FSU is a terrible matchup for us in that they - like SJU - have tremendous length that can disrupt us in the lane.

[Eldon]

How about we beat the smack out of Hall and Nova and lock up a four seed?

[MUMonster03]

How about we beat the smack out of Hall and Nova and lock up a four seed?

A win tonight might get us a 4, a Big East Tournament Championship definitely should since we have beat two of the current 4's head to head. It would take everything breaking Marquette's way to get back to the 3 line, but crazier things have happened when you put a bunch of old people in a room together.

[cheebs09]

Other than Duke with Zion, is there much difference between the 1 and 2 seeds? I saw a post saying the committee has 7 teams in play for a 1 seed.

Also, I'd be pretty happy with playing a 1 seed since that would be a Sweet Sixteen game.

[mu03eng]

Other than Duke with Zion, is there much difference between the 1 and 2 seeds? I saw a post saying the committee has 7 teams in play for a 1 seed.

Also, I'd be pretty happy with playing a 1 seed since that would be a Sweet Sixteen game.

I mean, we're gonna need to beat a good team or two if we're gonna win the whole frickin' thing......

#seedsnomatta

[LoudMouth]

Also, I'd be pretty happy with playing a 1 seed since that would be a Sweet Sixteen game.

Not if we drop to a 9 seed

[brewcity77]

Other than Duke with Zion, is there much difference between the 1 and 2 seeds? I saw a post saying the committee has 7 teams in play for a 1 seed.

Also, I'd be pretty happy with playing a 1 seed since that would be a Sweet Sixteen game.

I think there are 9 viable teams for the top-2 lines: Virginia, Duke, UNC, Tennessee, Kentucky, Houston, Gonzaga, Michigan State, & Michigan. I think Duke & Virginia are a clear step ahead of the rest, Houston & the Michigan schools a clear step behind, and everyone else pretty equal.

[wadesworld]

Hot take: I think Duke will run into a team that can at least hang with them athletically/physically and will force them into jump shots all game and will knock them out before a Final Four.  Cuse hung in there last night without their best player and essentially without the middle man of their zone, and that was with Zion going 13-13 from the field.

[brewcity77]

Hot take: I think Duke will run into a team that can at least hang with them athletically/physically and will force them into jump shots all game and will knock them out before a Final Four.  Cuse hung in there last night without their best player and essentially without the middle man of their zone, and that was with Zion going 13-13 from the field.

Syracuse's zone is a nightmare for Duke because Duke can't shoot the three. Their nightmare would be getting Washington in the second round.

For a man-to-man team to beat Duke at full strength, they probably need to get red hot from three & pray you have enough interior defense to somewhat slow their drivers.

Honestly, we might have the kind of team that could beat them if we are on from three, though with Duke's defense it would more likely be a double-digit loss.

[Lennys Tap]

Hot take: I think Duke will run into a team that can at least hang with them athletically/physically and will force them into jump shots all game and will knock them out before a Final Four.  Cuse hung in there last night without their best player and essentially without the middle man of their zone, and that was with Zion going 13-13 from the field.

You could very well be right. That said, in our Duke vs Kansas for the national championship bet I like my side.

[Its DJOver]

Looking at potential S16 match-ups right now is way premature.  Not to go all "wades" crazy with the one game at a time thing, but lets focus on our R64 game first.  Keep in mind that Wojo has still never won a tourney game in his coaching career, if we make the S16 get a bad match-up and get plastered (i.e. 2011), this will still have been a great season.

[wadesworld]

You could very well be right. That said, in our Duke vs Kansas for the national championship bet I like my side.

Yeah if I could've looked into the future and seen 2 of Kansas's 3 best players would be done for the year by mid conference season I probably would've picked UVA as the best team in the country.

Kansas minus Vick and Azubuike looks a bit like Duke without Zion.

[nyg]

Lunardi has MU as a 5 seed today.  Hate that 5-12 matchup.  Has 4 BE teams in, including SJU.  MU, NOVA, SH and SJU.

As far as the ACC Tournament, that is just crazy.  Three of the top 5 teams in the country in the semifinals, along with an extremely hot Florida State team.   

[Warrior1969]

If we are a 5 basically lock in FSU as the 4.

Unless they set up a rematch with kstate, Wisco or Kansas right away

I would take Kansa in this scenario

[MUMonster03]

Lunardi has MU as a 5 seed today.  Hate that 5-12 matchup.  Has 4 BE teams in, including SJU.  MU, NOVA, SH and SJU.

As far as the ACC Tournament, that is just crazy.  Three of the top 5 teams in the country in the semifinals, along with an extremely hot Florida State team.

If either Wisconsin or K-State lose tonight and MU wins, I think they go back up to the 4.

[cheese ball chaser]

Current bracketology on ESPN has us a 5 seed playing Murray State in the first round. That would be very, very bad..

[BrewCity83]

6 is out, too many Q1 wins. 3 is likely out (already set)

Although I don't see us getting up to a 3 seed, the 3s are not "already set".  The committee has penciled in the top 3 seed lines in preparation for this weekend's work, but there are not set.

Having said that, Gus Johnson last night predicted that MU could get as high as a 3 if they win the BET.

[wadesworld]

Current bracketology on ESPN has us a 5 seed playing Murray State in the first round. That would be very, very bad..

I don't see it.  Ja is great.  That team is not great.  They're good enough that if we play awful they'll beat us, but any 11/12/13 seed will be good enough to beat us if we play awful.  I would expect a 10-15 point win against them.

[nyg]

Didn't we clobber Murray State in the tournament years ago, when they had another star, Isaiah Cannon?

[wadesworld]

Didn't we clobber Murray State in the tournament years ago, when they had another star, Isaiah Cannon?

We played a very tight game with them in the 2nd round when they were like 30-1 going into the NCAA Tournament.  They were very good.

[brewcity77]

Having said that, Gus Johnson last night predicted that MU could get as high as a 3 if they win the BET.

It would take such a perfect storm, I just can't see it. Would have to move up 2 seed lines in 2 days. That is nearly unthinkable, especially as conference tournament games usually aren't weighted as heavily as the regular season.