A chance to add 3 more Q1 wins

[muguru]

If Georgetown beats Seton Hall, they should move comfortably into the top 75(currently at 76), therefore moving the road win against them into Q1. Then if MU plays and beats SJU...that's considered a road win...that goes into Q1 status, and should they meet and play Nova in the title game, that of course would also be Q1...that would give MU 12 Q1 wins on the year.

Of course with the way things have been going, they may not win another game, but...the opportunities are there to make the resume more impressive. Even with all of that though, I think their ceiling is only a 4 seed, which in reality is no different then where they likely are right now(a 5). Although 12 Q1 wins would be near the top in the country, so who knows how the committee would view that.

[#UnleashSean]

I think Marquette is much closer to a 6 seed then a 5. Maybe the committee gives then pity and gives a 4 seed if they go to the final, but I'm not seeing it.

sad because 2 weeks ago we were talking about being a 2 seed in des Moines

[brewcity77]

I'm not sure SJU would be considered a road win for NET purposes. It may very well be a neutral court game, in which case it wouldn't be Q1.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

I'm not sure SJU would be considered a road win for NET purposes. It may very well be a neutral court game, in which case it wouldn't be Q1.

It has been reported that St. John's BET games will count as home games.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I think Marquette is much closer to a 6 seed then a 5. Maybe the committee gives then pity and gives a 4 seed if they go to the final, but I'm not seeing it.

I don't think so. There was a pretty large gap between the 4s and 5s before Marquette started losing, and the teams that were close have been losing since then. I think it is more likely that we get a 4 if we win the BET then us getting a 6 if we lose our first game. Which said another way is that we are most likely a 5 seed.

[muguru]

I don't think so. There was a pretty large gap between the 4s and 5s before Marquette started losing, and the teams that were close have been losing since then. I think it is more likely that we get a 4 if we win the BET then us getting a 6 if we lose our first game. Which said another way is that we are most likely a 5 seed.

At this point, who of us wouldn't prefer a 6 over a 4/5 anyway?? I know I would. And as stated above, it's pretty sad that a week or so ago we were all discussing the real(or seemed at the time) possibility of getting a 2 seed. 

[Its DJOver]

At this point, who of us wouldn't prefer a 6 over a 4/5 anyway?? I know I would. And as stated above, it's pretty sad that a week or so ago we were all discussing the real(or seemed at the time) possibility of getting a 2 seed. 

I would always prefer the higher seed.  I know that you're going to counter with the fact that a 4/5 would potentially meet a 1 before a 6, but I would be more focused on the easier R64 opponent.  Upsets happen, last year 9 of the S16 teams were not top 4 seeds.  Give me an easier R64 game versus a tougher potential S16 or E8 game any day of the week.

[mu03eng]

I would always prefer the higher seed.  I know that you're going to counter with the fact that a 4/5 would potentially meet a 1 before a 6, but I would be more focused on the easier R64 opponent.  Upsets happen, last year 9 of the S16 teams were not top 4 seeds.  Give me an easier R64 game versus a tougher potential S16 or E8 game any day of the week.

Not to mention what this team needs more than anything is just to get a win to prove to themselves(and me) that they can still win.

[brewcity77]

I don't think so. There was a pretty large gap between the 4s and 5s before Marquette started losing, and the teams that were close have been losing since then. I think it is more likely that we get a 4 if we win the BET then us getting a 6 if we lose our first game. Which said another way is that we are most likely a 5 seed.

+1

I have Nevada, Buffalo, and Wofford all on the 6-line. With their lack of Q1 and Q1A wins (Marquette has more of both than those three combined) they just don't have the resume nor opportunities to pass us, even if we lost to DePaul on a neutral. It's not impossible we could fall to a 6, but that's our absolute floor.

[muguru]

+1

I have Nevada, Buffalo, and Wofford all on the 6-line. With their lack of Q1 and Q1A wins (Marquette has more of both than those three combined) they just don't have the resume nor opportunities to pass us, even if we lost to DePaul on a neutral. It's not impossible we could fall to a 6, but that's our absolute floor.

Brew, I don't know why I'm even asking, because I'm 99% certain I already know the answer...do you see ANYWAY, ANYWAY at all, MU could get back to a 3 seed?? I mean would beating Nova for the BETT(while also adding 3 more Q1 wins along the way) be enough?? Would it be hard for the committee to explain why a team with 12 Q1 wins was lower then a lot of teams with fewer Q1 wins??

[muzzwilliams]

Marquette will be back. It will work in our favor to face this adversity now so we can bull doze through the tourney later this month.

[brewcity77]

Brew, I don't know why I'm even asking, because I'm 99% certain I already know the answer...do you see ANYWAY, ANYWAY at all, MU could get back to a 3 seed?? I mean would beating Nova for the BETT(while also adding 3 more Q1 wins along the way) be enough?? Would it be hard for the committee to explain why a team with 12 Q1 wins was lower then a lot of teams with fewer Q1 wins??

Take a look at this...I touched on MU's ability to move up & down today so I added a post for you in here: https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=58176.msg1103761#msg1103761

[muwarrior69]

I don't think so. There was a pretty large gap between the 4s and 5s before Marquette started losing, and the teams that were close have been losing since then. I think it is more likely that we get a 4 if we win the BET then us getting a 6 if we lose our first game. Which said another way is that we are most likely a 5 seed.

Ah....the dreaded 5 vs 12 game.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Ah....the dreaded 5 vs 12 game.

Last year the 5 seeds won four 5 vs 12 matchups.   Which probably means the 12s are due this year.

[BrewCity83]

Last year the 5 seeds won four 5 vs 12 matchups.   Which probably means the 12s are due this year.

Or.......it represents a new trend that the 5s dominate the 12s, a trend that will continue this year.

[muguru]

Take a look at this...I touched on MU's ability to move up & down today so I added a post for you in here: https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=58176.msg1103761#msg1103761

Thanks Brew...just as I thought, the odds are about as good as they were that MU would lose their last 4 in row...Oh...wait..