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forgetful

eFG% no matta.

Out shot them 57% to 42%.

We R Final Four

I don't think you change that scouting report on samuels. Role player went off. Reminds me of Sacar last year. He's like jay cutler.
He can win a game but I wouldn't change my game plan at the expense of someone else going off. Let's see him do it again....

Ellenson Guerrero

Quote from: forgetful on February 27, 2019, 10:22:49 PM
eFG% no matta.

Out shot them 57% to 42%.

Not when you turn the ball over every other possession.
"What we take for-granted, others pray for..." - Brent Williams 3/30/14

CTWarrior

Quote from: NickelDimer on February 27, 2019, 10:20:11 PM
Btw that travel call against Sacar was inexcusable and was a huge sequence
You fall down while in possession of the ball it is a travel.  We got the same call right back a couple minutes later to give us another possession down 63-60.  I would say the biggest calls were the charges against Howard, 3 could have gone either way and they got the first two.
Calvin:  I'm a genius.  But I'm a misunderstood genius. 
Hobbes:  What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

fjm

We just turned the ball over again...

But seriously. That's a game we shoulda won.

But we had multiple rebounds where we just let it roll out of bounds.

willie warrior

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 27, 2019, 10:21:39 PM
The new plan for attacking Marquette's defense is to give the ball to whoever Joey is guarding.
Yes. Joey gave Samuels his career night.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

1SE

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on February 27, 2019, 10:20:40 PM
I do think .. MU wins that game 7 of 10 times.  The unforced turnovers were just a killer.  And the unbelievable amount of offensive rebounds that Nova got .. sure, some were effort, plenty were just great bounces to them.

That time VU got 4 ORBs and finished it getting a foul and two FTs.  Wow.

They really are an ugly shooting team. Even most of Samuels' threes were lazers that probably were never more than 3 inches above the rim. Ends up with lots of long rebounds out - the luck of the draw
Real Warriors Demand Excellence

TSmith34, Inc.

Disagree on 1, don't believe Samuels can reproduce a night like that again, not with that flat rocket of a shot.  A number of Nova offensive rebounds were because his misses, even his FTs, flew out so far.

Poor on the turnovers, poor on the defensive glass, too many fouls, and were still in a position to win if we didn't go ice cold the last 4 minutes.

BTW I thought Chartouney played a very solid game tonight.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

NickelDimer

Quote from: CTWarrior on February 27, 2019, 10:24:10 PM
You fall down while in possession of the ball it is a travel.  We got the same call right back a couple minutes later to give us another possession down 63-60.  I would say the biggest calls were the charges against Howard, 3 could have gone either way and they got the first two.
IF you possess the ball which he did not. He gave it up as he was going down hence the terrible call. Paschal's was completely different
No Finish Line

dgies9156

You win some you should lose

You lose some you should win.

Tonight was the latter category. We killed ourselves with insufficient defensive rebounding and too many turnovers.

Villanova is a great team and you have to be near perfect to beat them.

Well, Saturday is coming.

nyg

MU with 37 rebounds, Nova with 34.  Its just the loose ball offensive ones killed them.  MU 8, Nova 15.  Like death.

MU scored one point in last five minutes, with a five point lead.

Not going to beat a quality team with 18 turnovers and opponent has 7.

Theo on floor, team dangerous. 

Sacar with two points and Sam only took 9 shots.  Agree with Rafferty, he should have shot more. 

Shout out to Sam, he held Paschal to 4 points, but other guy had career NBA type game.  Probably never happen again.

Thought a key was start to game when Nova missed first seven shots, yet MU had a massive 4 to 2 lead.  Three turnovers in that time was a killer.  Could have been like a 10 to 2 start and who knows how it would have ended.

goldeneagle91114

this is the difference between a short run and long run in the tournament. The team did not look mentally prepared for the game tonight. Very sloppy with the ball and not boxing out on the defensive end. In addition, we have Markus Theo that committed stupid fouls.

Every game from here on out will be played with this intensity. We here wojo say it every night - "Value every possession."

Tonight we beat ourselves.

MUBurrow

This loss doesn't really bother me. It sucked, but it doesn't make me doubt this team any more or less than I did three hours ago. What of our known weaknesses came back to bite us here vs what was just disappointing or a fluke? The only thing that sticks out to me is the lack of true ballhandlers played a big role in not being able to get into the offense for the first ten minutes of the game. We were swimming upstream all game after that.

muguru

"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

1SE

Quote from: fjm on February 27, 2019, 10:24:11 PM
We just turned the ball over again...

But seriously. That's a game we shoulda won.

But we had multiple rebounds where we just let it roll out of bounds.

It's a game we win at home. And we did. But a Jay Wright team at the PAV is going to win that close game 8 times out of ten.

That's why home court matters so much in CBB, which is also one of the things that makes CBB great.
Real Warriors Demand Excellence

Norm

Quote from: warriors141 on February 27, 2019, 10:22:25 PM
we need more hauser at end of games. howard is great but not the same guy in clutch situations. both st johns and tonight he was chucking at end of games. bad turnovers and poor shooting by him. would rather set something up for hauser. if we are going to chuck shots, I want to see sam doing that
This is the result of not having a true point guard, so when Markus takes it up at the end he's looking to shoot, not pass and keep the ball moving on offense.

goldeneagle91114

Quote from: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on February 27, 2019, 10:21:43 PM
We see this sloppy play way too much and are fortunate we are in a mountain west type of conference.  We have not played any of the elite teams in a long time this season. Its not the look of a team ready to make a run

+1

bilsu

Quote from: Ellenson Guerrero on February 27, 2019, 10:20:38 PM
Jobbed by the refs on Howard's charges. Totally changed the course of the game. Nevertheless, we had a chance to win it and didn't capitalize. Good game to learn from; Nova was hungrier tonight. If you told me we'd keep Paschall and Booth in check and make someone else beat us, I'd have taken it.

PS did Quinerly even see the floor tonight?
They were charges and I am glad it occurred now instead of in an NCAA tournament game. Howard will adjust, so that should not be a problem in the future. I still remember Dean the Dream getting called for 3 offensive fouls in NCAA tournament. The only game in his career that he fouled out and it ended our undefeated season. Lesson learned now in the long run may be a positive thing for this team. Also, MU played well with Markus on the bench. They fell apart when he came back in.

1318WWells

Quote from: tower912 on February 27, 2019, 10:14:56 PM
1.   Time to change the scouting report on Jermaine Samuels.      Kid had a night.   
2.   Theo, Ed..... you are only beasts when you are on the floor.   Touched on it in the Theo thread, have mentioned it many times.   Right now, IMO, Theo is block happy and it is falling for pump fakes, getting out of position for rebounds.    But I also firmly believe that he will get better.   
3.   Markus can shoot a little bit.   But Nova had a really good scouting report and did a great job of stepping in and taking charges.   Great way to take a scorer out of the game.    Can't argue with any of the calls.   But it did look a little like a Wisconsin game with all of the flopping.     
4.  Careless turnovers.    Again.    Offensive rebounds surrendered.    Again. 
5.   I really wish that Greg was available.   Hasn't hurt a ton this year.   IMO, it did tonight. 
6.   Gus with the multiple Steve Novak references.   
7.  Marquette is a tough minded, fearless team.      Tough minded.    Fearless. 
8.   And so is Villanova.   
9.   Senior night.  Defending national champs.  Crowd roaring.    Unexpected contributor for the defending national champs.    Poor defensive rebounding at crunch time.  Couldn't hit the big shot.  Missed FT's at crunch time.   Oops.   Hat tipped.
10.   Now bounce back and don't let this become a streak.

#3.  Can definitely argue with 4th foul on Howard. Cremo moved a ton after Howard was already in the air. That call changed the face of the game.

1SE

Quote from: dgies9156 on February 27, 2019, 10:25:33 PM
You win some you should lose

You lose some you should win.

Tonight was the latter category. We killed ourselves with insufficient defensive rebounding and too many turnovers.

Villanova is a great team and you have to be near perfect to beat them.

Well, Saturday is coming.

The TOs were ugly, but most were a result of some really good Nova D - denials, jumping passing lanes, tight coverage. Nova is not some 200 RPI cupcake, this is the defending national champ, with some veteran players and a HOF coach, playing at home in a game they really needed to win. They were amped up and played well - and forced us into most of those TOs. Yes, we'll need to win that caliber game to get past the S16 in the tournament - but I'd rather lose it here than there. Hopefully we learn some things and can get the W when it really matters.
Real Warriors Demand Excellence

21rooster

Key turning point was when Howard came back, and offense no longer went through the Hausers.  In fact, the ball rarely left Howard's hands.  The team needs to continue to pass the ball at the end of the game, even when Howard is in the game. 

They'll be fine. 

Mr. Sand-Knit

Quote from: tower912 on February 27, 2019, 10:14:56 PM
1.   Time to change the scouting report on Jermaine Samuels.      Kid had a night.   
2.   Theo, Ed..... you are only beasts when you are on the floor.   Touched on it in the Theo thread, have mentioned it many times.   Right now, IMO, Theo is block happy and it is falling for pump fakes, getting out of position for rebounds.    But I also firmly believe that he will get better.   
3.   Markus can shoot a little bit.   But Nova had a really good scouting report and did a great job of stepping in and taking charges.   Great way to take a scorer out of the game.    Can't argue with any of the calls.   But it did look a little like a Wisconsin game with all of the flopping.     
4.  Careless turnovers.    Again.    Offensive rebounds surrendered.    Again. 
5.   I really wish that Greg was available.   Hasn't hurt a ton this year.   IMO, it did tonight. 
6.   Gus with the multiple Steve Novak references.   
7.  Marquette is a tough minded, fearless team.      Tough minded.    Fearless. 
8.   And so is Villanova.   
9.   Senior night.  Defending national champs.  Crowd roaring.    Unexpected contributor for the defending national champs.    Poor defensive rebounding at crunch time.  Couldn't hit the big shot.  Missed FT's at crunch time.   Oops.   Hat tipped.
10.   Now bounce back and don't let this become a streak.

Every one of theos fouls tonight was stupid, not only stupid but immediately after he checked back in
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

NickelDimer

Quote from: 21rooster on February 27, 2019, 10:31:55 PM
Key turning point was when Howard came back, and offense no longer went through the Hausers.  In fact, the ball rarely left Howard's hands.  The team needs to continue to pass the ball at the end of the game, even when Howard is in the game. 

They'll be fine.
I think Wojo sat Howard way too long. He's a G. He can play with 4 just fine.
No Finish Line

TallTitan34

Quote from: bilsu on February 27, 2019, 10:30:53 PM
They were charges and I am glad it occurred now instead of in an NCAA tournament game. Howard will adjust, so that should not be a problem in the future. I still remember Dean the Dream getting called for 3 offensive fouls in NCAA tournament. The only game in his career that he fouled out and it ended our undefeated season. Lesson learned now in the long run may be a positive thing for this team. Also, MU played well with Markus on the bench. They fell apart when he came back in.

Two of the three the defender slid in after Markus had left his feet.

NickelDimer

Quote from: TallTitan34 on February 27, 2019, 10:34:11 PM
Two of the three the defender slid in after Markus had left his feet.
And one the ball was out of his hands and the shot should've counted
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