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MU Fan in Connecticut

Is Fox just not showing college basketball games on FS2 anymore?  Just curious.  I noticed none of our games are on it this season and when I channel surf by FS2 there is no BB on.

Marquette Fan

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on February 24, 2019, 08:07:59 AM
Is Fox just not showing college basketball games on FS2 anymore?  Just curious.  I noticed none of our games are on it this season and when I channel surf by FS2 there is no BB on.

Maybe not Men's College Basketball games.  But during BE play there has been a Women's Bball game on there every week.  St. John's-Georgetown Women are on FS2 today.

The Lens

How in the world does Marquette - Providence & Georgetown - Creighton get network national TV?

I get timeslots are part of it, but there were no better Big Ten games?  Or even an early (11:30am PT) Pac 12 game? 
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

Cheeks

Quote from: The Lens on February 24, 2019, 09:45:11 AM
How in the world does Marquette - Providence & Georgetown - Creighton get network national TV?

I get timeslots are part of it, but there were no better Big Ten games?  Or even an early (11:30am PT) Pac 12 game?

Because the Big East contract indicates a certain number of games on national FOX.  It's great.  I just pray we can keep this tv deal next round.

"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

GooooMarquette

Quote from: The Lens on February 24, 2019, 09:45:11 AM
How in the world does Marquette - Providence & Georgetown - Creighton get network national TV?

I get timeslots are part of it, but there were no better Big Ten games?  Or even an early (11:30am PT) Pac 12 game?

I have no idea what the schedules were like, but Pac 12 is essentially a mid-major this year.

We R Final Four

Quote from: Cheeks on February 24, 2019, 09:55:17 AM
I just pray we can keep this tv deal next round.

"Now I lay me down to sleep, and please dear Lord bless us with a favorable tv contract next time around. Lord here my prayer."
               —Chicos

Cheeks

Quote from: We R Final Four on February 24, 2019, 10:09:44 AM
"Now I lay me down to sleep, and please dear Lord bless us with a favorable tv contract next time around. Lord here my prayer."
               —Chicos

We may all be saying that prayer in a few years for the long term viability of conference and program
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Cheeks on February 24, 2019, 10:12:56 AM
We may all be saying that prayer in a few years for the long term viability of conference and program

So Buzz was prescient to be concerned about the conference and the program.

Cheeks

Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 24, 2019, 10:35:59 AM
So Buzz was prescient to be concerned about the conference and the program.

We're all going to die....I am therefore, prescient.


So far Buzz has been anything but prescient, but he may be in the future.  Big East rated top 3 conference every year but one sit he left, two national titles, multiple number 1 seeds, etc.  He is in a perfect place where football matters, basketball is an after thought and he can have the principal monitor things other than his program.....that's the reason he left, not his bullshit excuse.  He and every other Big East basketball coach that is worth a damn could coach at a football school if the conference went down...everyone knows that...nothing but a convenient excuse for him.

"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Mr. Nielsen

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Quote from: The Lens on February 24, 2019, 09:45:11 AM
How in the world does Marquette - Providence & Georgetown - Creighton get network national TV?

I get timeslots are part of it, but there were no better Big Ten games?  Or even an early (11:30am PT) Pac 12 game?
FS1 has wall to wall NASCAR and NHRA racing in February. The Big East benefits by getting shoved to FOX.

FOX Sports gets 38 Big Ten games to show and 22 games from the Pac-12.
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

Mr. Nielsen

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on February 24, 2019, 08:07:59 AM
Is Fox just not showing college basketball games on FS2 anymore?  Just curious.  I noticed none of our games are on it this season and when I channel surf by FS2 there is no BB on.
FS2 had 18 men's game on there this season. All non-conference games. BCU at Marquette was on FS2.
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

wadesworld

Remember when we had to pray MSG wanted to keep the BET with all the other conferences trying to play theirs in NYC knowing the BET's deal was up soon?

Turned out okay. Probably bigger things to pray for. BE is just fine.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: wadesworld on February 24, 2019, 11:30:53 AM
Remember when we had to pray MSG wanted to keep the BET with all the other conferences trying to play theirs in NYC knowing the BET's deal was up soon?

Turned out okay. Probably bigger things to pray for. BE is just fine.

Let's take the TV deal one contract cycle at a time.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 24, 2019, 11:34:48 AM
Let's take the TV deal one contract cycle at a time.

The next contact cycle is the most important one
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GooooMarquette

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 24, 2019, 11:50:10 AM
The next contact cycle is the most important one


I see what you did there.

Cheeks

Quote from: wadesworld on February 24, 2019, 11:30:53 AM
Remember when we had to pray MSG wanted to keep the BET with all the other conferences trying to play theirs in NYC knowing the BET's deal was up soon?

Turned out okay. Probably bigger things to pray for. BE is just fine.

MSG is peanuts long term vs the TV / video deal.  No contest.  Yes there is the prestige part, but we're talking 5 days vs 5 months a year.  Conferences survive all the time having tournaments move or relocate, but without the money and exposure of a powerful sports channel......need to keep that contract going in the right direction on either ESPN or FOX.  Best thing that could have happened did...Eric Shanks, David Hill, etc, started the Fox Sports networks right around the time we needed a home and they needed content.  They are majority stakeholders now of the Big Ten Network, but having two major bidders is a lot better than if it were just ESPN for our future.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Cheeks on February 24, 2019, 10:42:59 AM
We're all going to die....I am therefore, prescient.


Snarky...but what I expected. Guess I'm prescient, too.

79Warrior

Quote from: Cheeks on February 24, 2019, 10:12:56 AM
We may all be saying that prayer in a few years for the long term viability of conference and program

As long as there are networks they need content. MU hoops  survived before cable and we will survive with whatever the future brings. Go sell crazy somewhere else.

The Sultan

I don't think it's that crazy.  Sure the Big East is going to get a TV deal, but is it going to get the 12 year, $500M deal it got a few years ago?  That deal provides Marquette with over $4M per year. 

The Big East has to continue to be relevant on the national stage.  And by relevant I mean multiple teams in the top 20 with national title contenders - like the last few years.  But if this year is the start of a slip, I'm not sure it's going to be able to get that type of revenue. 

Yeah Marquette will always be there and will always have great fan support.  But it's not crazy to be concerned about the future.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: The Lens on February 24, 2019, 09:45:11 AM
How in the world does Marquette - Providence & Georgetown - Creighton get network national TV?

I get timeslots are part of it, but there were no better Big Ten games?  Or even an early (11:30am PT) Pac 12 game?

Lol, really?
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on February 24, 2019, 04:51:30 PM
I don't think it's that crazy.  Sure the Big East is going to get a TV deal, but is it going to get the 12 year, $500M deal it got a few years ago?  That deal provides Marquette with over $4M per year. 

The Big East has to continue to be relevant on the national stage.  And by relevant I mean multiple teams in the top 20 with national title contenders - like the last few years.  But if this year is the start of a slip, I'm not sure it's going to be able to get that type of revenue. 

Yeah Marquette will always be there and will always have great fan support.  But it's not crazy to be concerned about the future.

Yah it is. The Big East will get a comparable tv deal to what it has now.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

The Lens

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 24, 2019, 05:32:01 PM
Lol, really?

Yes really, the national appeal of 3 of 4 of those teams is a fraction of the appeal from big state Universities.  I wish it wasn't the case but it is.  Nearly every Big Ten team is going to out draw Big East teams.  Same with Pac 12. 
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

Johnny B

Quote from: The Lens on February 24, 2019, 06:04:37 PM
Yes really, the national appeal of 3 of 4 of those teams is a fraction of the appeal from big state Universities.  I wish it wasn't the case but it is.  Nearly every Big Ten team is going to out draw Big East teams.  Same with Pac 12.
Bias much? Or does MU really draw that much more appeal than Creighton or gtown

The Lens

Quote from: Johnny B on February 24, 2019, 06:10:11 PM
Bias much? Or does MU really draw that much more appeal than Creighton or gtown

When I said 3 of 4 I meant Georgetown.  IMO, they are a national program and maybe even still ahead of Nova for prestige.  I could be biased though bc I grew up in the 80's when half of America was wearing Hoya Starter jackets.
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

Johnny B

Quote from: The Lens on February 24, 2019, 06:13:59 PM
When I said 3 of 4 I meant Georgetown.  IMO, they are a national program and maybe even still ahead of Nova for prestige.  I could be biased though bc I grew up in the 80's when half of America was wearing Hoya Starter jackets.
Yeah idk about that one. They may have top academics but what's that matter. Their basketball program is a shell of itself and the attendance at games is pathetic. Nova is ahead of them in national recognition for sure

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