St. John's Game

[wadesworld]

If we lose tonight, we are still comfortably in second place in the BE standings. How does that make this game so important?

Looking at it another way, if you have to split the two games, which do you pick to win? That's a no brainer. (obviously we want to win all the games we play, but to think through which game means more, this is a simple little hypothetical)

And yeah, I can see the team getting hyped up for this game. But it only became that important to the team in January. The Nova game was circled in October.

We're obviously not going to agree on this, but I just think the whole PR view from fans is unneeded. Trying to explain how a game against a mediocre-ish St. John's team is more important than a game against the team we're chasing for a BE title who also happens to be the defending national champ... that's some mental gymnastics I'm just not flexible enough for.

I would choose to win our next game. Which is tonight against St. John’s.

[Mike Deane's Seat Belt]

Biggest game of the year so far for sure but its all mental mastering anyways. 

We should be looking for blood against this team that made us look like a mid major the first time around.  The nova game will be that much more huge if we win.  Cant wait to hopefully come out swinging and the 3's start falling right away. 

My biggest wish is they let us bump and bang a bit not like the X game. 

[#UnleashSean]

I would choose to win our next game. Which is tonight against St. John’s.

I'm surprised you even acknowledge games past the next one.

[Spotcheck Billy]

typical scoop thread, some of you will argue about everything

[skianth16]

I would choose to win our next game. Which is tonight against St. John’s.

So you'd prefer to lose to Nova and beat St. John's? Weird take. But I guess not every opinion has to make sense to me.

[Farley36]

I'm very nervous about this game.  St. John's always seems to play over their heads against Marquette and MU has a huge game on Saturday so team might be looking ahead.   Hopefully they show up focused and ready to play.

[muwarrior69]

So now we have a pre-game thread, then at 8/7 EST/CST will have the game thread; and then of course after the game we have Tower's post game thread analysis. Anyone up for a halftime thread?

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

So you'd prefer to lose to Nova and beat St. John's? Weird take. But I guess not every opinion has to make sense to me.

He is only willing to look at and acknowledge the game right in front of him - much like Wojo.  He can't get caught looking too far ahead!!

[CTWarrior]

You really think a win over St. John's is equal to a win over Nova? Like for serious?

I really think it won't matter a bit to our seeding if we split which one we lose to.  We need them both if we want to win the Big East regular season.  That is why I think they're equally important.  In the end your schedule is what it is and you're record is what it is.  How you got there may not be as important as you think.  We have enough skins on the wall against good teams (Louisville, KSU, UW, etc.) that we are OK.

My point, as always, is that the NCAA tournament is not the only important thing.  If that's all you care about, you're not going to be too happy.  I think a Big East regular season title would be great, and that is what is in front of us.  We have to keep winning against everybody to make that happen, because I doubt Villanova is going to slip up more than once in games not against us the rest of the way.

[skianth16]

I really think it won't matter a bit to our seeding if we split which one we lose to.  We need them both if we want to win the Big East regular season.  That is why I think they're equally important.  In the end your schedule is what it is and you're record is what it is.  How you got there may not be as important as you think.  We have enough skins on the wall against good teams (Louisville, KSU, UW, etc.) that we are OK.

My point, as always, is that the NCAA tournament is not the only important thing.  If that's all you care about, you're not going to be too happy.  I think a Big East regular season title would be great, and that is what is in front of us.  We have to keep winning against everybody to make that happen, because I doubt Villanova is going to slip up more than once in games not against us the rest of the way.

Beating Nova is the only way we win the conference. Wouldn't you agree? So doesn't that make the games against Nova a little more important than the others?

We have the ability to hand Nova 2 losses. Which means we can still lose 1 more game to someone other than Villanova and still win the conference. Can we all agree on that? If so, how could any other games be as important or more important than the games against Nova?

[GooooMarquette]

typical scoop thread, some of you will argue about everything

Hey - I disagree with that!!

[Class71]

a friend and I had a conversation with Dickie at his breakfast place on Siesta Key, mentioned we were MU alums and he had to remind us that he (Detroit) beat us at the Arena in '77.  I then told him I was at the game, watched him dance at middle court after the win and that it was probably the biggest win of his college coaching career.
He became an imitator of Al, using funny expressions for players, etc, but not nearly as clever.  I never could tolerate his screaming to be noticed and have looked forward to games without him.

Was wondering if "Another Broken Egg Cafe" was any good? Please let me know.

The only similarity between Dickie V. and Al was that they were both from NYC. Al was more than just a basketball coach. He talked about life and told it like it was. He was not theatrical. He was who you saw. When he said he was the worst player in the NBA he meant it and we loved him for his honesty. Al was the person he wanted to be. Rather uncommon today as many dance in the shadows of others.

[Loose Cannon]

Was wondering if "Another Broken Egg Cafe" was any good? Please let me know.

The only similarity between Dickie V. and Al was that they were both from NYC. Al was more than just a basketball coach. He talked about life and told it like it was. He was not theatrical. He was who you saw. When he said he was the worst player in the NBA he meant it and we loved him for his honesty. Al was the person he wanted to be. Rather uncommon today as many dance in the shadows of others.

Maybe what you say is true, but Don't sell Dickie V Humanitarian efforts Short.

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[wadesworld]

Are we still wanting to overlook a team that beat us by 20 a month ago or...?

[TinyTimsLittleBrother]

Are we still wanting to overlook a team that beat us by 20 a month ago or...?

Who wanted to overlook them?

[wadesworld]

Who wanted to overlook them?

People starting threads talking about how not worried they were about the St. John’s or Nova games they were but how worried about DePaul they were.

Or people picking which game between St. John’s and Nova they’d win. That’s not how it works. Two BE teams show up to a gym and start at 0-0 with 40 minutes to play. Get up for the game in front of you or you very well might end up 0-2.

[TinyTimsLittleBrother]

People starting threads talking about how not worried they were about the St. John’s or Nova games they were but how worried about DePaul they were.

Or people picking which game between St. John’s and Nova they’d win. That’s not how it works. Two BE teams show up to a gym and start at 0-0 with 40 minutes to play. Get up for the game in front of you or you very well might end up 0-2.

You realize we’re fans and not the players right?

[wadesworld]

You realize we’re fans and not the players right?

Yes. And you do realize us fans do not get to choose one of the next two games to win right?

[TinyTimsLittleBrother]

Yes. And you do realize us fans do not get to choose one of the next two games to win right?

Duh. It’s a hypothetical question on a message board.

[skianth16]

Duh. It’s a hypothetical question on a message board.

Good luck man. Logic wont get you very far.

[wadesworld]

Good luck man. Logic wont get you very far.

Logic is not overlooking teams.  I'm glad the fanbase got excited for our chance to tie Nova in the BE on Saturday.  Unfortunately there was a game we needed to win to set that up, and we didn't take care of business.

[skianth16]

Logic is not overlooking teams.  I'm glad the fanbase got excited for our chance to tie Nova in the BE on Saturday.  Unfortunately there was a game we needed to win to set that up, and we didn't take care of business.

No one in an MU uniform overlooked St John's. There are a number of reasons we lost tonight, and not a single one of them has anything to do with fans on a message board.

[MUfan12]

Almost stole it. But then someone in the crowd started talking about the mimosa special before Saturday's game and it all went to hell in a handbasket.

[MU82]

People starting threads talking about how not worried they were about the St. John’s or Nova games they were but how worried about DePaul they were.

Still somewhat concerned about DePaul.

Some guy on the interwebs expressing that concern had 0.00% to do with us losing tonight to St. John's.

[Aircraftcarrier]

No idea why MU did not double Ponds on last possession.They had a chance.Theo could have doubled him and left Simon alone at top of key.Simon can't shoot a lick.