M2N to the Draft?

[Bocephys]

and to this ... suppose this team goes to the FF this year.  With the heightened publicity, does Sam also come out early this year?

We need a loss to insert some realism back into this board.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

We need a loss to insert some realism back into this board.

Or just more common sense.

Even if Sam or Markus go off in the tourney, that heightened visibility doesn't make them more NBA ready. Scouts already know who as what they are, their strengths and weaknesses, etc.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

and to this ... suppose this team goes to the FF this year.  With the heightened publicity, does Sam also come out early this year?

Scoop Always good for a laff and a shake of the head

[warriorchick]

Scoop Always good for a laff and a shake of the head

And we appreciate your contributions!

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

We need a loss to insert some realism back into this board.

By reading this board you would think the NBA drafts kids based on college degrees, whether or not a player is a nice person and team post season success.  Totally realistic. 

[TheREALwrk]

And we appreciate your contributions!

Hahahahahahaha

[Cheeks]

and to this ... suppose this team goes to the FF this year.  With the heightened publicity, does Sam also come out early this year?

It's the silly time of the year

[Heisenberg]

Or just more common sense.

Even if Sam or Markus go off in the tourney, that heightened visibility doesn't make them more NBA ready. Scouts already know who as what they are, their strengths and weaknesses, etc.

You're giving scouts way too much credit! 

See Jalen Brunson ... stands on a ladder and cuts down the nets twice and gets drafted 33rd (2nd pick, 2nd round).

So, go ahead and make the case that if Nova crapped out in round one of the tourneys in 2016 and 2018 he still would have been drafted 33rd.

Performing on the big stage makes a big difference.  I only hope that we have this issue in April.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

You're giving scouts way too much credit! 

See Jalen Brunson ... stands on a ladder and cuts down the nets twice and gets drafted 33rd (2nd pick, 2nd round).

So, go ahead and make the case that if Nova crapped out in round one of the tourneys in 2016 and 2018 he still would have been drafted 33rd.

Performing on the big stage makes a big difference.  I only hope that we have this issue in April.

He made an NBA roster.  He got drafted because he's a good player.   He got plenty of exposure in the big east.

[fjm]

Scoop Always good for a laff and a shake of the head

Literally 90% of your posts contribute to this.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

You're giving scouts way too much credit! 

See Jalen Brunson ... stands on a ladder and cuts down the nets twice and gets drafted 33rd (2nd pick, 2nd round).

So, go ahead and make the case that if Nova crapped out in round one of the tourneys in 2016 and 2018 he still would have been drafted 33rd.

Performing on the big stage makes a big difference.  I only hope that we have this issue in April.

So why didn't he go top 10?  Shouldn't the championships and POY award have garnered more than 33rd?

In reality, Jalen went exactly where he was projected to go during the season: anywhere from 25-40.

No scout is perfect.  Yes, a tournament run can help boost a player's draft stock.   But a 6 game (or less) sample size is not the biggest factor in a scouts mind just because it happened in the NCAA tournament.

[swoopem]

He made an NBA roster.  He got drafted because he's a good player.   He got plenty of exposure in the big east.

Didn't he win national player of the year? The award that's based off the regular season

[We R Final Four]

We need a loss to insert some realism back into this board.

Ha—exactly.

[We R Final Four]

Oh boy. This isn't ending anytime soon.

[CountryRoads]

No scout is perfect.  Yes, a tournament run can help boost a player's draft stock.   But a 6 game (or less) sample size is not the biggest factor in a scouts mind just because it happened in the NCAA tournament.

I have a hard time beleiving divencienzo would have gone in the first round if not for last years tournament run but generally I agree.

[brewcity77]

Or just more common sense.

Even if Sam or Markus go off in the tourney, that heightened visibility doesn't make them more NBA ready. Scouts already know who as what they are, their strengths and weaknesses, etc.

Hmm...I'm not so sure about that. Donte DiVincenzo went from not on draft boards to a top-20 pick thanks to one weekend in March and some great workouts. I don't think Markus' stock would change much, but if we had that dream Final Four run, culminating with 2 wins in Minneapolis as Sam Hauser averages 30 ppg/12 rpg/5 apg in the two games, he might skyrocket onto NBA radars.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

We need a loss to insert some realism back into this board.

Yup

[Tha Hound]

God this board is gonna be insufferable if we lose in one of the first two rounds of the tournament.

[Its DJOver]

Above is my original quote.

Jay Bilas thinks Sam will have a long NBA career.  Sam is on some of next year's draft boards.

Why do you guys laugh at that idea that if, repeat if, this team makes a FF run, and what was not stated was Sam and Markus "go off" for that too happen, that Sam could also come out early?

I'll answer it.  Because Sam is a traditional and they stay in school and get a degree.  You don't think traditionals are angling for the first way to the league like urban kids (unless that is their goal coming in like Henry).

If Sam was urban like Vander, who used an E8 run to come out early, you would also think he would do the same.

Just putting aside your racism I think Joey is a big part of it too. They're clearly extremely close and Sam played a key part in Joey's recruitment. If Joey was seen as a 1 and done and Sam shoot up the boards with a special March run I could see it.  I haven't looked at any mock drafts, so I have no idea if he's anywhere on them, but if he isn't, I would expect both H bros back next year.

[Jockey]

Above is my original quote.

Jay Bilas thinks Sam will have a long NBA career.  Sam is on some of next year's draft boards.

Why do you guys laugh at that idea that if, repeat if, this team makes a FF run, and what was not stated was Sam and Markus "go off" for that too happen, that Sam could also come out early?

I'll answer it.  Because Sam is a traditional and they stay in school and get a degree.  You don't think traditionals are angling for the first way to the league like urban kids (unless that is their goal coming in like Henry).

If Sam was urban like Vander, who used an E8 run to come out early, you would also think he would do the same.

You should have quit when you were behind.

[Jockey]

I have a hard time beleiving divencienzo would have gone in the first round if not for last years tournament run but generally I agree.

I said during his freshman year that he would end up in the NBA - and that was when he was averaging less than 10 minutes a game.

If a dummy like me can see that......

[brewcity77]

God this board is gonna be insufferable if we lose in one of the first two rounds of[/a] the tournament.

FIFY

[BM1090]

God this board is gonna be insufferable if we lose in one of the first two rounds of the tournament.

"Why would Markus and Sam come back? Wojo can't even get us out of the first weekend"

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

and to this ... suppose this team goes to the FF this year.  With the heightened publicity, does Sam also come out early this year?

Come out and go where?

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Hmm...I'm not so sure about that. Donte DiVincenzo went from not on draft boards to a top-20 pick thanks to one weekend in March and some great workouts. I don't think Markus' stock would change much, but if we had that dream Final Four run, culminating with 2 wins in Minneapolis as Sam Hauser averages 30 ppg/12 rpg/5 apg in the two games, he might skyrocket onto NBA radars.

I'm sure scouts have at least some idea who Sam Hauser is and they had scouted DDV well before the Final Four.  With DDV, the Final Four was the tipping point to going a year earlier than expected.  It probably gave him a closer look from scouts.  But the Final Four is just one part of the scouting process.