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We're Number One!
« on: January 26, 2019, 03:34:47 PM »
After the Xavier win, Marquette is officially tied for first in the Big East standings. While we have a loss and Nova does not, 7-1 and 6-0 are tied in the standings because of the two extra games played. I feel like this has to be the latest in the season we've been atop the league standings since 2013.
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Re: We're Number One!
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2019, 03:36:29 PM »
Huh?  When is winning percentage not the decider of place?  Not that it really matters at this point....
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Re: We're Number One!
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2019, 03:38:29 PM »
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 26, 2019, 03:36:29 PM
Huh?  When is winning percentage not the decider of place?  Not that it really matters at this point....
Yeah, these are not MLB standings.  Nova is still first right now.
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Re: We're Number One!
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2019, 04:12:46 PM »
Quote from: Nukem2 on January 26, 2019, 03:38:29 PM
Yeah, these are not MLB standings.  Nova is still first right now.

Standings all work the same. Go to the ESPN standings page. We're tied.
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Re: We're Number One!
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2019, 04:14:22 PM »
You mean these ESPN standings?
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Re: We're Number One!
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2019, 04:17:02 PM »
Hmmm, don’t think so
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Re: We're Number One!
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2019, 04:17:55 PM »
Ha. Mine sorted by win percentage and I didn't even see the games behind column.  Not sure if I proved my point or put my foot in my mouth
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Re: We're Number One!
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2019, 04:19:33 PM »
Loss column. Nova 0. MU 1. Nova in 1st.
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Re: We're Number One!
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2019, 04:19:56 PM »
First place or second place whatever...I’m happy with the 7-1 start. I seem to recall Brew took some heat for predicting a 15-3 finish. Right on pace but a lot of games left.
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Re: We're Number One!
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2019, 04:22:04 PM »
I'm more than willing to wait until we're really in first place after we beat Nova on NMD.
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Re: We're Number One!
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2019, 04:23:43 PM »
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 26, 2019, 04:12:46 PM
Standings all work the same. Go to the ESPN standings page. We're tied.
Nova is still listed first with a 1.000 winning %......   ;)
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Re: We're Number One!
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2019, 04:27:05 PM »
Yeah we're in 2nd but 0 games back.
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Re: We're Number One!
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2019, 04:46:16 PM »
Quote from: wadesworld on January 26, 2019, 04:27:05 PM
Yeah we're in 2nd but 0 games back.

Zero games back. Exactly right. We're tied for first, no matter what the nattering nabobs of negativity may say.
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« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2019, 04:48:16 PM »
Doesn't really matter what place we're in until Wojo gets that 10 game conference win streak monkey off his back.
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Re: We're Number One!
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2019, 04:49:26 PM »
Quote from: source? on January 26, 2019, 04:48:16 PM
Doesn't really matter what place we're in until Wojo gets that 10 game conference win streak monkey off his back.

Why have modest expectations? Let's go for 17 straight  ;)
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Re: We're Number One!
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2019, 04:55:40 PM »
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 26, 2019, 04:46:16 PM
Zero games back. Exactly right. We're tied for first, no matter what the nattering nabobs of negativity may say.

No I’m saying we’re in second place. Basketball goes based on winning percentage.

A week or 2 ago the Bucks were in first place but a half game back of the Raptors because they had the best winning percentage in the NBA but had played 3 fewer games played.

Marquette is 0 games back but is in second place.
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Re: We're Number One!
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2019, 04:59:15 PM »
Quote from: wadesworld on January 26, 2019, 04:55:40 PM
No I’m saying we’re in second place. Basketball goes based on winning percentage.

A week or 2 ago the Bucks were in first place but a half game back of the Raptors because they had the best winning percentage in the NBA but had played 3 fewer games played.

Marquette is 0 games back but is in second place.

For the time being, we're tied for first, but Villanova is ahead in the loss column. Their WP% will have them listed first, but a zero game difference is zero games. Because at the end of the season everyone plays the same number of games, so until you get there, a zero game difference is a tie.
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Re: We're Number One!
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2019, 05:00:28 PM »
This is truly a Scoop debate.
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Re: We're Number One!
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2019, 05:13:16 PM »
Gotta admit we're still looking at Nova's asses, Brew. Hope that's not true in 24 hrs.
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Re: We're Number One!
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2019, 05:21:44 PM »
Safe to say no one would have argued that we came into today a half game out of first.

We won, Nova didn't play, so we gained a half game.
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Re: We're Number One!
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2019, 05:24:04 PM »
Let's go to the source, the Big East Conference

We're in 2nd.  This is silly.  Winning Percentage determines standings.  Games behind is meaningless when there are games in hand.

http://www.bigeast.com/index.aspx
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Re: We're Number One!
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2019, 06:24:18 PM »
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 26, 2019, 05:21:44 PM
Safe to say no one would have argued that we came into today a half game out of first.

We won, Nova didn't play, so we gained a half game.

Yeah. This is where it is weird. We were a half game back going into today. We won.

I think everyone would also agree that if Nova loses tomorrow we'd be in first place by virtue of having 1 more win. So if that's the case, then we're tied right now.

But I go by winning percentage, so we're in 2nd.
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Re: We're Number One!
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2019, 06:31:51 PM »
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 26, 2019, 04:46:16 PM
Zero games back. Exactly right. We're tied for first, no matter what the nattering nabobs of negativity may say.

Screw you basic understanding of math!
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Re: We're Number One!
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2019, 06:32:19 PM »
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 26, 2019, 05:21:44 PM
Safe to say no one would have argued that we came into today a half game out of first.

We won, Nova didn't play, so we gained a half game.

You multiply them.  Obviously.  We are a 1/4 game out.
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Re: We're Number One!
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2019, 06:44:59 PM »
In 2 weeks, after wins over Butler, St. John's and Nova, we will actually be in first place ... and that's good enough for me. I'm a patient guy.
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