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KampusFoods

Quote from: Anti-Dentite on January 25, 2019, 07:23:10 AM
I respect/pull for Duke because they stopped the unthinkable from happening....unthinkable.

+1

We R Final Four

Quote from: Anti-Dentite on January 25, 2019, 07:23:10 AM
I respect/pull for Duke because they stopped the unthinkable from happening....unthinkable.
Yes.....Yes!

Only one State Champion!
I love to hear Gasser still bitch about how the refs called the game completely differently the last 5 minutes and stole the title from Wisky.
Thank you Coach K!

NCMUFan

I don't know what MU's record is against Duke while Coach K has been coach.  All time we are W 2, L 6. 
I do remember one game MU beat Duke with the three Amigos and Ousman Barro.  DJ was head and shoulders above the Duke PG that had the Greek name.  Ooze I believe also had a huge game to propel us to victory.  The next year I believe we also played Duke but this time lost a close one.

I have been to the Duke campus a number of times.  It is very strong medical research University.  Got to love a school that has a Lemur center.

https://lemur.duke.edu/


TallTitan34

#29
Quote from: NCMUFan on January 25, 2019, 08:33:46 AM
I don't know what MU's record is against Duke while Coach K has been coach.  All time we are W 2, L 6. 
I do remember one game MU beat Duke with the three Amigos and Ousman Barro.  DJ was head and shoulders above the Duke PG that had the Greek name.  Ooze I believe also had a huge game to propel us to victory.  The next year I believe we also played Duke but this time lost a close one.

I have been to the Duke campus a number of times.  It is very strong medical research University.  Got to love a school that has a Lemur center.

https://lemur.duke.edu/

1-4 against Coach K.

https://tinyurl.com/mubackintop10 >> Sort by Opponent Head Coach >> Sort by Opponent

I don't have it completly filled out but all Marquette/Duke games have been entered.

From there you can see KO was 0-2 against K, Crean was 1-1, Buzz was 0-1.  You can also see Duke's average rank was 7 when coach K played Marquette.


JakeBarnes

#30
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 25, 2019, 07:10:38 AM
Just by chance, I got in the car 30 seconds before Coach K joined the show.  I did not pick up any kind of slights against any part of Marquette's history.  I thought the closest dig was actually against Wojo. Coach K was trying to comment on how well this year is going and he said what a large improvement they've made this year. Followed by an slightly awkward, "not that they were BAD before..."

I enjoyed it very much.  Was slightly confused when Coach K referenced "Steve".  The first time I thought he was talking about Homer so I assumed that's who he was talking about later.  Totally forgot for the moment that Wojo's name is Steve too.  Only think of him as Wojo. Duh.  When he later referred to Homer as "the guy you do the show with" I figured out he wasn't good friends with Homer

That was part of the conversation where he was talking about how he thought Marquette was a great fit for Wojo. That he felt it was a great fit for Wojo, that it was a gold mine of a coaching job--tons of tradition that when Wojo put his touch on could be a really great situation. Then said, "you're seeing that develop now...not that they were bad before."

Love to hear him talk about how he watches Marquette and Wojo whenever he gets the chance and cheers along. In a weird way, that might be why he won't face his coaching tree--wants to be able to root them on to success (as evidenced by how he doesn't love facing Jeff Capel).

What a great interview overall. It feels very rare that you get to see coaches in a setting like that interview was, especially Coach K. If K said half of the things he did during the interview about Wojo to the Marquette Board when they were interviewing him for the position, it is really clear how he rose quickly as the hire.

Insert moment of euphoric homerism:I have no idea what the future brings for Wojo and Marquette, but I am really happy that he is here and the vision he has had for the program thus far. He's definitely from good stock, and it is fun to see the results that we've had this year--hopefully it's just a preview of the foundation he is building here.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

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WarriorDad

Quote from: 94Warrior on January 24, 2019, 09:26:44 PM
Coach K, Wojo and Homer talking all things Marquette, including D Wade!

Great Stuff

http://www.espn.com/milwaukee/

Terrific interview.  Did not know Coach Krzyzewski had the affinity he did for Marquette, but growing up 90 miles away during MU's glory days would make sense.  Feels like we have a special situation.
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
— Plato

WarriorDad

Quote from: Cheeks on January 24, 2019, 11:34:47 PM
This is why the power point was so important.....also why I think Wojo is the heir to replace K....but for now let's enjoy.

Never immediately follow a legend unless you are a legend yourself.  If Wojo becomes a legend here, then we will all be happy.
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
— Plato

NorthernDancerColt

Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 25, 2019, 07:00:33 AM
Listen and form an opinion for yourself when you get a chance. I think northerndancecult may have misinterpreted what was said.

When K brought up how our brand has stood the test of time, Homer seemed like he was trying to get at "but why your huge push Marquette?" for Wojo. It just kind of fit the narrative for Homer to gloss over all our other success post-Al. Don't think Homer had any ill-intent. K, in fact, responded by saying MU has done a lot since, "just haven't won a championship" then he laughed "which is really difficult to do."
Zenyatta has a lot....a lot... of ground to make up. She gets there from here she'd be a super horse......what's this.....Zenyatta hooked to the grandstand side....Zenyatta flying on the outside....this....is...un-belieeeeeevable!...looked impossible at the top of the stretch...

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Quote from: JakeBarnes on January 25, 2019, 09:25:15 AM
That was part of the conversation where he was talking about how he thought Marquette was a great fit for Wojo. That he felt it was a great fit for Wojo, that it was a gold mine of a coaching job--tons of tradition that when Wojo put his touch on could be a really great situation. Then said, "you're seeing that develop now...not that they were bad before."

Love to hear him talk about how he watches Marquette and Wojo whenever he gets the chance and cheers along. In a weird way, that might be why he won't face his coaching tree--wants to be able to root them on to success.

Coach K had some good quotes on this after they beat Jeff Capel's Pitt team earlier this week.  He basically said he was glad that he won and Pitt lost, and all of the emotions get set aside come gametime.  Of course those are all things he should say, and I'm sure he prefers not to play his former staff members if he can avoid it.  Both he and Capel said it's just weird.

Speaking of Capel, it'll be interesting to see what he does in the next few years at Pitt.  He's already made a pretty substantial difference in both team quality and attendance in his first year.  The front court he inherited is awful, but the freshman guards that he brought in are studs.  With a year or two more of bringing in his recruits, I think he'll have Pitt comfortably back in the top half of the ACC, and I think his name will be included as much (or more than) Wojo's as K's likely successor.  Wojo's a great recruiter, but Capel is known to get the future superstars, and if he shows that he can still come close to doing that at a school that hit rock bottom, I'd say he has the edge.

WarriorDad

Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 25, 2019, 09:24:02 AM
1-4 against Coach K.

https://tinyurl.com/marqU2019 >> Sort by Opponent Head Coach >> Sort by Opponent

I don't have it completly filled out but all Marquette/Duke games have been entered.

From there you can see KO was 0-2 against K, Crean was 1-1, Buzz was 0-1.  You can also see Duke's average rank was 7 when coach K played Marquette.

Buzz almost got them in Kansas City in the CBE, lost by 5.  Crean's team lost 77-73 in his second encounter.  Two close calls.  KO's NCAA team gave Duke fits for most of that game, too.
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
— Plato

Galway Eagle

Quote from: NorthernDancerColt on January 25, 2019, 09:38:19 AM
When K brought up how our brand has stood the test of time, Homer seemed like he was trying to get at "but why your huge push Marquette?" for Wojo. It just kind of fit the narrative for Homer to gloss over all our other success post-Al. Don't think Homer had any ill-intent. K, in fact, responded by saying MU has done a lot since, "just haven't won a championship" then he laughed "which is really difficult to do."

all true, I just thought the dark ages comment was a bit of a harsh interpretation for what was actually said
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WarriorDad

Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 25, 2019, 06:30:35 AM
Did you listen to it? I didn't get that vibe at all from Homer.

I didn't either.  Sounds like maybe another MU coach didn't  receive the accolades he thought he should.  I have wondered for some time if Wojo and Buzz don't get along.  Buzz wasn't at the 100th, the only living coach not there.  The Marquette Way may rub some fans the wrong way?
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
— Plato

Galway Eagle

Quote from: WarriorDad on January 25, 2019, 09:53:39 AM
I didn't either.  Sounds like maybe another MU coach didn't  receive the accolades he thought he should.  I have wondered for some time if Wojo and Buzz don't get along.  Buzz wasn't at the 100th, the only living coach not there.  The Marquette Way may rub some fans the wrong way?

my understanding is he was invited. Though I don't think they would get along anyways.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

WarriorDad

Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 25, 2019, 09:57:10 AM
my understanding is he was invited. Though I don't think they would get along anyways.

I expect he was invited, but not being there is what surprised me. 
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
— Plato

HammerScreen

Are we just going to ignore the fact that Duke somehow got the top 3 guys in the recent recruiting class? Dukes recruiting classes over the last 10 years have looked a lot different than the 90s and early 2000s....$$$$$$$

Lighthouse 84

Quote from: WarriorDad on January 25, 2019, 09:30:05 AM
Never immediately follow a legend unless you are a legend yourself.  /quote]

And never get involved in a land war in Asia or go against a Sicilian when death is on the line.
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4. O'Donohues.                 10. Lighthouse.
5. O'Pagets.
6. Hagerty's.

NorthernDancerColt

Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 25, 2019, 09:52:25 AM
all true, I just thought the dark ages comment was a bit of a harsh interpretation for what was actually said

Yeah, probably poor choice by me. I admit, I was peeved that when I went to the ESPN WI link, the top bar of their homepage listed Bucks, Brewers, Packers, BADGERS...then "MORE". When you clicked on the "more" link, we, Marquette were the ones relegated to that heading.

Homer is an ESPN employee, so I guess I heard a slight that wasn't there.

I still hope when the TV contract gets renegotiated...FS1 continues to be our flagship. Don't want any part of ESPN.
Zenyatta has a lot....a lot... of ground to make up. She gets there from here she'd be a super horse......what's this.....Zenyatta hooked to the grandstand side....Zenyatta flying on the outside....this....is...un-belieeeeeevable!...looked impossible at the top of the stretch...

The Sultan

Quote from: NorthernDancerColt on January 24, 2019, 10:15:10 PM
That's pretty much what I understood him to mean as well.

Homer painted MU post-Al with a negative broad brush, inferring a sort of Dark Age. No talk of successes of the mid 90s and 2000s, and didn't  seem to grasp K correctly arguing the Marquette brand as having withstood the test of time.

Struck by how genuinely K loves Marquette. Neat hearing him describe how many friends from his youth went to MU.


I don't think Wojo would be here if K didn't love Marquette.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

Quote from: WarriorDad on January 25, 2019, 09:53:39 AM
I didn't either.  Sounds like maybe another MU coach didn't  receive the accolades he thought he should.  I have wondered for some time if Wojo and Buzz don't get along.  Buzz wasn't at the 100th, the only living coach not there.  The Marquette Way may rub some fans the wrong way?


I doubt Wojo has any sort of relationship with Buzz.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MUfan12

Quote from: WarriorDad on January 25, 2019, 09:58:19 AM
I expect he was invited, but not being there is what surprised me.

Does it, knowing Buzz?

Quote from: WarriorDad on January 25, 2019, 09:49:33 AM
Crean's team lost 77-73 in his second encounter.

That Maui final was an Ed Hightower performance for the ages.

dgies9156

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 25, 2019, 10:17:42 AM

I don't think Wojo would be here if K didn't love Marquette.

Indeed, as I recall, Wojo had several offers from other colleges over the years, all of which Coach K urged him to pass on. But when Marquette called, Coach K urged him to talk.

He did and the rest is history.

As to perceived slights, keep in mind the "elite" discussions we have had in recent weeks. We have improved under Coach Wojo immensely (given the pile of dung left Coach Wojo by the Hillbilly). Where we go from here is still an open question but I'm optimistic about two things. First, we likely have Wojo as long as we want him. Second, the 2020 recruiting year will be make-or-break for our move to elite status.

What separated Al from his successors was Al's ability to consistently recruit. After Tom Crean recruited DWade, for example, he was not able to sustain that until the very end of his term. The Hillbilly recruited Jucos well, but the only two real start-to-finish recruits that made a difference were Wes Matthews and Vander Blue. Hopefully, Coach Wojo has laid the groundwork for something special.

What I ultimately like about Coach Wojo is the improvement we're seeing in Sam, in Theo and even in Markus. That start-to-finish effort is critical for us to be a preferred stopping point for the best recruits.

tower912

K didn't say anything that I would perceive as negative about Marquette.    Loved the anecdote about Dean and Ric Cobb.   Just because rodent fans (and Willie.   And duanewade)  are always trying to tear down the program doesn't mean that fans of college basketball don't know or respect Marquette's and the Big East's brand.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: dgies9156 on January 25, 2019, 11:32:51 AM
Indeed, as I recall, Wojo had several offers from other colleges over the years, all of which Coach K urged him to pass on. But when Marquette called, Coach K urged him to talk.

He did and the rest is history.

As to perceived slights, keep in mind the "elite" discussions we have had in recent weeks. We have improved under Coach Wojo immensely (given the pile of dung left Coach Wojo by the Hillbilly). Where we go from here is still an open question but I'm optimistic about two things. First, we likely have Wojo as long as we want him. Second, the 2020 recruiting year will be make-or-break for our move to elite status.

What separated Al from his successors was Al's ability to consistently recruit. After Tom Crean recruited DWade, for example, he was not able to sustain that until the very end of his term. The Hillbilly recruited Jucos well, but the only two real start-to-finish recruits that made a difference were Wes Matthews and Vander Blue. Hopefully, Coach Wojo has laid the groundwork for something special.

What I ultimately like about Coach Wojo is the improvement we're seeing in Sam, in Theo and even in Markus. That start-to-finish effort is critical for us to be a preferred stopping point for the best recruits.

Maybe its just the way you wrote this but I want to be clear that Buzz did not recruit Wes Matthews.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

Mr. Sand-Knit

Quote from: NorthernDancerColt on January 25, 2019, 12:26:48 AM
Let's get it straight...

Wojo is the heir to replace the guy who replaces Coach K.

Coach McGuire pitied Hank for having to follow in his footsteps. Doubt K wants that same weight on Wojo, and remember also the words of coach Carrawell: "Wojo wants to make his own mark."

Crean and O'Neill found the grass elsewhere no greener, and both have since admitted it. No way do I pretend to know Coach Wojo's intentions or best path to take....but I know this....the people at MU are first-rate. Wojo knows it because he's seen it first-hand, and K has too, dating back to his MU-bound HS friends. 

Let's give our Coach every reason to make his best mark right here.

Im pretty sure Wojo would find the grass greener at Duke
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