PAC 12

[Dish]

My god is the PAC 12 a dumpster fire this year. Has a P5 ever been a one bid league (since tournament expanded to 64)?

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

I feel like I need context.

And please, it's Big 6 when it comes to basketball.

[MU_Beav]

Go Beavs! Who knew that their eventual win over Central Connecticut may end up being the league's best.

[brewcity77]

My god is the PAC 12 a dumpster fire this year. Has a P5 ever been a one bid league (since tournament expanded to 64)?

Just dug through the archives. I looked at the Big East, Big 10, Pac-10/12, Big 8/12, SEC, & ACC. Each of those leagues has had multiple bids every season since 1985 when the field expanded to 64. The Pac-10 had 2 bids in 2010 and the Pac-12 had 2 bids in 2012. There may have been other 2-bid seasons, once you dig back it's a lot of hunting and pecking through the bracket for teams and once I saw multiples, I moved on.

[We R Final Four]

So when they are collectively the 6th of P6 do they become a mid major conference?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

If KenPom decided at large bids, the P12 would be a 1 bid league as of today with #42 Oregon getting the auto bid.

#49 Arizona State, #52 Washington, and #55 Arizona would all be on the bubble but on the outside looking in.

There have 4 more teams in the top 100 but all closer to 100 then to 50. 4 sub 100 teams. Woof.

[brewcity77]

If KenPom decided at large bids, the P12 would be a 1 bid league as of today with #42 Oregon getting the auto bid.

#49 Arizona State, #52 Washington, and #55 Arizona would all be on the bubble but on the outside looking in.

There have 4 more teams in the top 100 but all closer to 100 then to 50. 4 sub 100 teams. Woof.

Same goes for the NET. Arizona State came into the day at #31 but will plummet. Next up is Washington at #56, with Oregon all the way down at #93.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

I feel like I need context.

And please, it's Big 6 when it comes to basketball.

Seattle beats Cal
Princeton beats Arizona State
UCLA loses by 15 at home to Liberty

[brewcity77]

Seattle beats Cal
Princeton beats Arizona State
UCLA loses by 15 at home to Liberty

At this point, I'm not even sure Steve Alford survives the season.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I was very surprised when so many had UCLA as a top 25 team preseason. There was no evidence supporting that prediction, I think it was mostly "It's UCLA, It's UCLA"

[Mr. Nielsen]

In 2012, Washington won the regular season title, yet went to the NIT. Cal and Colorado made the NCAA's that year.

[fjm]

PAC 12 has assured itself the WORST DECEMBER BY A MAJOR CONFERENCE IN 20 YEARS.

https://es.pn/2VihjOL

[GooooMarquette]

So when people refer to the P5 conferences in a basketball context, maybe they're not dissing the BE after all.

[MomofMUltiples]

This reminds me - has anyone else seen the ad where the American Conference proclaims itself a P-6 conference? I saw it while watching a Cincy game and wondered, who do they think they are ahead of?  Although now I realize they could be referring to football.

[Oldgym]

This reminds me - has anyone else seen the ad where the American Conference proclaims itself a P-6 conference? I saw it while watching a Cincy game and wondered, who do they think they are ahead of?  Although now I realize they could be referring to football.

I have, and I suspect we'll continue to see the add through conference play. Fake it till you make it, I guess.

[79Warrior]

At this point, I'm not even sure Steve Alford survives the season.

UCLA rarely has done in season firings of coaches in any sport. Alford make be the exception here. Attendance is way down and losing at home to Liberty is likely the nail in the coffin.

[WhiteTrash]

UCLA rarely has done in season firings of coaches in any sport. Alford make be the exception here. Attendance is way down and losing at home to Liberty is likely the nail in the coffin.

Wojo to UCLA

[GGGG]

UCLA rarely has done in season firings of coaches in any sport. Alford make be the exception here. Attendance is way down and losing at home to Liberty is likely the nail in the coffin.

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

[The Equalizer]

Wojo to UCLA

I don't know that you need to put this in teal. Assuming MU's performance doesn't fall apart in conference play, I suspect his name will come up as a possible candidate for multiple high-major openings next spring. 

[GGGG]

Wojo isn't going to UCLA regardless of MU's performance. 

[Marcus92]

Oregon's struggled with youth (4 freshmen and 3 sophomores have started at least one game) and injuries (Bol Bol, Abu Kigab and Kenny Wooten have missed a combined 8 games so far). If they can get healthy, I could see them as a Top 25 level team by the end of the season.

The rest of the conference? ASU lost 3 starters from an 11-seed NCAA team. Now they're playing a freshman and 3 sophomores in the main rotation. UCLA has potential; all of their losses so far are to KenPom Top 100 teams. Zona looks similar. Washington is a very experienced team (4 seniors), with 2 of its 4 losses by just 2 points. USC lost 3 starters from an NIT team and is just 6-6 right now -- but 4 of those have come against KenPom Top 30 teams.

Could one of those teams pull things together during the conference schedule? We'll have to see. Right now, the Pac-12 is a shadow of the conference from just a few seasons ago.

[brewcity77]

Wojo isn't going to UCLA regardless of MU's performance.

This exactly. The UCLA job is a trainwreck. You have to make a Final Four in the first four years, play up-tempo, & fly coach. Come up short in either of the first two and you'll be fired. They'll have a tough time attracting any high major coach that isn't an alum.

[Pepe Sylvia]

Could one of those teams pull things together during the conference schedule? We'll have to see. Right now, the Pac-12 is a shadow of the conference from just a few seasons ago.

The problem is, put it together against who? other disappointing to crappy PAC teams? Not gonna help get the bids a whole lot, with out like 2 teams with 2-3 losses in conference play.

[Mr. Nielsen]

This reminds me - has anyone else seen the ad where the American Conference proclaims itself a P-6 conference? I saw it while watching a Cincy game and wondered, who do they think they are ahead of?  Although now I realize they could be referring to football.

P5 or the AAC P6 movement is a football saying.

[WhiteTrash]

I don't know that you need to put this in teal. Assuming MU's performance doesn't fall apart in conference play, I suspect his name will come up as a possible candidate for multiple high-major openings next spring.

Marquette is a high major program. Not a blue blood as UCLA may be but I'm not worried.  Wojo's resume is too thin for a blue blood program. I truly hope one day Duke is after him.