On-Campus Arena Tidbit

[Hards Alumni]

You had me at Mount Mary

That's a place, not an order, Gooooo.

[Litehouse]

I think an on campus arena is a terrible idea and I don't understand people who romanticize about this at all.  We play in arguably the greatest basketball facility in the country with a huge infrastructure of bars/restaurants within blocks.  I can't think of many better set-ups for a game-day experience.

[Norm]

I think an on campus arena is a terrible idea and I don't understand people who romanticize about this at all.  We play in arguably the greatest basketball facility in the country with a huge infrastructure of bars/restaurants within blocks.  I can't think of many better set-ups for a game-day experience.

Ditto

[Galway Eagle]

I think an on campus arena is a terrible idea and I don't understand people who romanticize about this at all.  We play in arguably the greatest basketball facility in the country with a huge infrastructure of bars/restaurants within blocks.  I can't think of many better set-ups for a game-day experience.

+1

[The Lens]

I think an on campus arena is a terrible idea and I don't understand people who romanticize about this at all.  We play in arguably the greatest basketball facility in the country with a huge infrastructure of bars/restaurants within blocks.  I can't think of many better set-ups for a game-day experience.

I don't think many would disagree with you, however the Bucks threatened the DNC last May with a lawsuit on back rent and implied they would give the DNC slot to Trump.  They will do ANYTHING for a buck (no pun intended) so we need to keep our options open.  We can't assume we will always have 20 dates at the Fiserv at a rent price that makes sense. 

[MUfan12]

I think an on campus arena is a terrible idea and I don't understand people who romanticize about this at all.  We play in arguably the greatest basketball facility in the country with a huge infrastructure of bars/restaurants within blocks.  I can't think of many better set-ups for a game-day experience.

The gameday experience at MU is so unique when you compare it to other schools.

Not to mention the additional dollars that come in through premium areas. Think about the BMO Lounge on the arena floor level. They can freaking gouge people for that access and it's 10x better than the old setup at the BC. I doubt they'd be able to replicate that on campus.

[cheebs09]

Also, I'm not sure an on-campus arena would save that much money. Wasn't the BC maintenance costs getting pretty outrageous?

I definitely get that the Bucks owners aren't doing MU any favors on rent, but still think it's the best place for MU to be.  Also, how many events can FF book on a Tuesday night in January that drives as much revenue as an MU game?

The value of having 20 locked and loaded dates is pretty high I would think. Not to mention, you could still have a Bucks game later that night for weekend games. I don't know how easy that would be with a concert or Disney on Ice.

[Galway Eagle]

Also, I'm not sure an on-campus arena would save that much money. Wasn't the BC maintenance costs getting pretty outrageous?

I definitely get that the Bucks owners aren't doing MU any favors on rent, but still think it's the best place for MU to be.  Also, how many events can FF book on a Tuesday night in January that drives as much revenue as an MU game?

The value of having 20 locked and loaded dates is pretty high I would think. Not to mention, you could still have a Bucks game later that night for weekend games. I don't know how easy that would be with a concert or Disney on Ice.

That's why I wish we had a way to call their bluff they know they have the premier spot we need. If we could stick it to them by taking away a few non con games or something I feel like that'd be huge for negotiation.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Carson Ribs Bennydrome

#donedeal

[wadesworld]

If MU played in an on campus arena, wouldn't they not be able to sell alcohol?

[Galway Eagle]

If MU played in an on campus arena, wouldn't they not be able to sell alcohol?

Thought the NCAA lifted that a few years ago?

[Gato78]

Rather than spending $50 million to $150 million to build a new arena, wouldn't it be wiser to hit up the potential project donors to contribute to a FiservForum rent trust? Could probably cover it perpetually for $50million+ and not have all of the upkeep headaches, parking problems and space concerns. Also permits us to continue to use an NBA arena.

[4everwarriors]

Would love to see us just play at the Al for 1 yr because I have to imagine that'd get the Fiserve to knock down rent realizing it's a symbiotic relationship.

Am I crazy or do they not need us as badly as I think?

Let's set up a poll. Might be shocked at the results, hey?

[Galway Eagle]

Let's set up a poll. Might be shocked at the results, hey?

Hey hey hey, haina?

[The Sultan]

That's why I wish we had a way to call their bluff they know they have the premier spot we need. If we could stick it to them by taking away a few non con games or something I feel like that'd be huge for negotiation.

Why should Marquette want to "stick it to them?" 

[GooooMarquette]

That's a place, not an order, Gooooo.

My bad.

Carry on...

[Galway Eagle]

Why should Marquette want to "stick it to them?"

Because didnt they raise rent to something absurd compared to the Bradley Center during negotiations? Or is that in my head?

[The Sultan]

Because didnt they raise rent to something absurd compared to the Bradley Center during negotiations? Or is that in my head?

Maybe.  But that's because they have something they know we want.  Holding a couple meaningless buy games at the Al isn't going to change their tune.

[cheebs09]

Because didnt they raise rent to something absurd compared to the Bradley Center during negotiations? Or is that in my head?

I believe the rumors were the Bucks were very tough to negotiate with. However, I believe some of that is due to the mindset of Herb Kohl and having Marc Marotta as head of the BC Board. If I remember right, MU was getting a really good deal with those two in charge. I think the new Bucks regime is much more financially motivated.

Also, I think while we have a higher rent, we now get some of the game day revenues. We didn't have that before if memory serves correctly.

[warriorgnp]

Just curious about what may have changed (or not changed) since this thread was born.  Interesting.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Just curious about what may have changed (or not changed) since this thread was born.  Interesting.

MU announced they are selling the land to a developer for housing.

[Billy Hoyle]

is that Ramada still there? Not only was that a place we'd have parties when I was at MU (cheap suites with bars in them) but it's where George Costanza booked the Yankees to the chagrin of Bernie Williams and Derek Jeter.

[cheebs09]

Just curious about what may have changed (or not changed) since this thread was born.  Interesting.

I guess I wasn't aware of the land sale, but not sure a whole lot has changed. I'm sure it's something Lovell and team have a pulse on to use for negotiation purposes.

I don't know that it will ever make fiscal sense for MU to do it. However, if rent gets outlandish and the Bucks only give them Wednesday night and Sunday morning slots, the math might change. I don't see that happening as I assume MU games bring value to the Bucks.

They could use the MECCA as a bargaining chip if things get dire, but the game experience there isn't even close to the BC. It was fun for one nostalgia Bucks game, but outdated to be a regular venue.

I also don't know if how the Athletic Performance Center fell apart made things a little frosty for the FF negotiation.

[Dr. Blackheart]

is that Ramada still there? Not only was that a place we'd have parties when I was at MU (cheap suites with bars in them) but it's where George Costanza booked the Yankees to the chagrin of Bernie Williams and Derek Jeter.

MU keeping the Ramada building and parcel. But hotel closed.

[MU82]

We play in arguably the greatest basketball facility in the country with a huge infrastructure of bars/restaurants within blocks.  I can't think of many better set-ups for a game-day experience.

I love it there. But is this a price-is-no-object thing? What we have now is the Bucks telling us: "Pay up. Take it or leave it."

Rather than spending $50 million to $150 million to build a new arena, wouldn't it be wiser to hit up the potential project donors to contribute to a FiservForum rent trust? Could probably cover it perpetually for $50million+ and not have all of the upkeep headaches, parking problems and space concerns. Also permits us to continue to use an NBA arena.

Good idea, but maybe not sexy enough to motivate big donors.

They could use the MECCA as a bargaining chip if things get dire, but the game experience there isn't even close.

Well, somehow, we had an incredible, incredible, incredible game experience at The Arena once upon a zillion years ago. Field a great, entertaining team that wins 90%+ of the time and make deep tournament runs nearly every year under a charismatic coach, and you'll offer your fans a great experience no matter where you play. (Note: I am NOT advocating we return there, just playing devil's advocate.)