Cardinal Virtues

[NCMUFan]

Still to many bone head passes, turnovers, fouls etc.. Jay Bilas was calling them out.  Don't mind Wojo pulling players out when they start doing dumb things.  Can any of the old timers visualize Al accepting such sloppy play?  Against good teams you will pay big time.  All in all, glad MU beat Louisville.  Good win to build on.

[Lennys Tap]

Watching Chicos is never fun. Free advice- more time with the family and less on college basketball boards.

Thank you

[g0lden3agle]

Thank you

Lol. The lack of self awareness is beautiful.

[Oregon Warrior]

Watching the game in Nashville with all of my UT alum family and my Domer BIL

Very glad that we won after 45 minutes of them calling our team "a bunch of albinos and Sideshow Bob".

A Domer calling any team a bunch of albinos is funny.

[mu_hilltopper]

I was so ready to head to Arby's after this game.

[T-Bone]

I was so ready to head to Arby's after this game.

Expected a win from the tip, eh?

[HutchwasClutch]

Nice gritty win.  They showed a lot of toughness.  To Wojo's credit, attacking basket much, much better tonight and paid off in baskets and plenty of FT trips.  Looked like that was point of emphasis in tonight's game plan.

Louisville will be good and well coached. I think this win will age well come March

[HutchwasClutch]

As stated, several nice plays out of Morrow tonight. Spelled John very well and block late in OT was huge play.

J Hauser also with solid D amd rebounding tonight.  He was huge down stretch and OT.  Not to mention clutch from line

[Silent Verbal]

The way we're playing on offense right now, this team reminds me of the two post-Final Four Crean teams.  Diener was a far better PG than Howard will ever be, but on those teams, he became the go-to scorer.  Sam is a more complete player than Novak, but tonight he filled the Novak role.  Aside from Joey, the rest of the guys are role players who may or may not have a good game on any given night.  Joey might be the wild card this year.  He made a few bad plays against Ville, but showed he could also come through in the clutch in a way most freshman can't.

Those aforementioned Crean teams felt like they were a good player away from being NCAA worthy.  I think Joey can be that guy for us.

[GoldenZebra]

If someone would have told me that MU would be way better defensively but way worse offensively this year, I would have smacked them upside the head. Crazy...
Id rather MU be better defensively, offense scheming can be done to get better scoring opportunities. Getting a team to buy into defense takes more effort.

[mu_hilltopper]

Expected a win from the tip, eh?

You don't understand Arby's, do you.

[HutchwasClutch]

If someone would have told me that MU would be way better defensively but way worse offensively this year, I would have smacked them upside the head. Crazy...
Id rather MU be better defensively, offense scheming can be done to get better scoring opportunities. Getting a team to buy into defense takes more effort.

They don't have a reliable third scorer yet after Markus and Sam. They also don't have an effective point guard.  That's what's holding offense back a little now

Chartouny absolutely stunk again tonight- turnovers, passing up shots.  I don't remember seeing him on the floor in 2nd half or OT. Markus can play PG in spots, but not his best or natural position.

[Lennys Tap]

If someone would have told me that MU would be way better defensively but way worse offensively this year, I would have smacked them upside the head. Crazy...

Floorslapper said we would improved defensively but struggle offensively without Rowsey. His logical and so far spot on assessment was roundly criticized/mocked by the board's experts.

[BM1090]

Some said Chartouny didnt play in the 2nd half. That is wrong. He played from the U16 timeout until the U12 at a minimum. Currently rewatching.

He also played from the U12 to the U8.

Lots of minutes. Agree he did not do anything noticable.

[HutchwasClutch]

Some said Chartouny didnt play in the 2nd half. That is wrong. He played from the U16 timeout until the U12 at a minimum. Currently rewatching.

He did because he logged 22 minutes. Just nobody noticed him.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Floorslapper said we would improved defensively but struggle offensively without Rowsey. His logical and so far spot on assessment was roundly criticized/mocked by the board's experts.

No it wasn't. It was pretty universally agreed upon that the defense would improve and the offense would take a step back though not this much.

[Its DJOver]

Seems to be a lot of negativity after gutting out (probably) at worst a Q2 win.  If we had squeaked out a Q3 or Q4 I could understand, but it really shouldn't matter how you get your Q1 and Q2 wins. Take them and run.

[Mutaman]

Lol. The lack of self awareness is beautiful.

I have major political differences with lenny but he's never posted White Supremacist bigoted crap here like Chicos and his boo-boo followers.  Unfortunate many can't recognize the difference. 

[whitykj]

needed this win in the worst way.  Glad we pulled it out but we were inches away from disaster.  Glad the defense is coming along and think the offense will find it's identity in the next couple games. 

[Mutaman]

Nice gritty win.  They showed a lot of toughness.  To Wojo's credit, attacking basket much, much better tonight and paid off in baskets and plenty of FT trips.  Looked like that was point of emphasis in tonight's game plan.

Louisville will be good and well coached. I think this win will age well come March

Good post. Wojo said post game that he wants to attack and not settle for threes. If Theo can learn to hit the open man it will help a lot.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

We haven't found the the third scorer behind Markus and Sam yet. Joey seems to have the best shot at it but he is a freshman and is making freshman type mistakes. Theo can scorer but will never be a guy who can get his own shot. I was hoping that Sacar and Jamal would take bigger steps forward on the offensive end. Sacar needs a lid lifter real bad. He is pressing too hard out there.

[skianth16]

The biggest positives for me tonight were seeing a full game of consistent play and seeing Markus letting the game come to him more. They weren't as flat as they've been in past games, and they didn't ever let the momentum swing too far out of balance, especially in the second half. Hopefully seeing that they can whittle away leads without needing Markus or Sam to take over the game will pay dividends in conference play.

[79Warrior]

We haven't found the the third scorer behind Markus and Sam yet. Joey seems to have the best shot at it but he is a freshman and is making freshman type mistakes. Theo can scorer but will never be a guy who can get his own shot. I was hoping that Sacar and Jamal would take bigger steps forward on the offensive end. Sacar needs a lid lifter real bad. He is pressing too hard out there.

Would love to see Theo and Ed keep it up. Getting solid inside scoring will create more opportunities for Sam and Markus.

[PGsHeroes32]

He did because he logged 22 minutes. Just nobody noticed him.

I noticed when he had quite possibly the dumbest foul we will see all year(thankfully UL followed up with about 3 worthy candidates of their own).

But yeah he has to be more confident. We really need the guy. Especially til Greg is ready

[skianth16]

But yeah he has to be more confident. We really need the guy. Especially til Greg is ready

Please Scoop, I beg you, do not let Greg become the 2018-19 Harry Froling. We need to win with what he have now, and any addition coming in future months should be considered an added bonus.

Joe was supposed to be a difference maker because he was a reliable PG. Jamal was going to be our best athlete who could contribute both ways. Ed Morrow and Brendan were both touted as being the best in practice last year and this summer. And now Greg is going to be the added depth we need at guard in January.

If we expect Greg to show up and outperform Sacar and Joe, who are more experienced and have been active all season, we're going to be disappointed. He'll need time to acclimate, and even when he's back to 100%, he's still a skinny sophomore that has limited experience. He's got a ton of potential, but I for one don't want to have to rely on that potential to translate 3 games into his sophomore year coming off a surgery in the middle of Big East play.