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Mutaman

Quote from: Sultan of South Wayne on November 23, 2018, 05:13:55 PM

No.  Please pay attention to what makes up the "basketball budget" at Marquette and how it differs from other schools.

Educate me. I'm open minded.

skianth16

Lots of threads devolve into the topic of why wojo is good/bad at his job. So I made this thread very specifically to ask the people who think he's the right guy for the job why they think that. So far, only one or two posts addressed that. To me, that says something about where the fanbase stands. Could be confirmation bias, I'll admit that, but I expected this thread to go differently.

GGGG

Quote from: Mutaman on November 23, 2018, 05:15:24 PM
Educate me. I'm open minded.

I have explained it before.  Marquette includes the rent paid for the FF in the basketball budget.  I am not sure, but I do believe that they allocate some costs related to academic support and athletic training toward basketball as well.  Other schools may not do that.  In other words, it's not a completely accurate survey because of these differences in reporting.

The bottom line is that Marquette doesn't have the overall resources available that the P5 football schools do, but they do devote a great deal to its basketball program. 

WarriorDad

Quote from: skianth16 on November 23, 2018, 04:25:24 PM
Don't let the voices of the few drown out the many. There are a few people on scoop who are very pro Wojo and another few who are just very patient. And they post a lot. If you were to count individual posts, the views may seems evenly split on Wojo. But if you count the individuals, I think you'll see more who are frustrated with the current state of the program. If you go outside scoop to the other 95% of the fanbase, you'll definitely find more frustration than patience.

Based on what research?  Your buddies you talk to after the game? 
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
— Plato

WarriorDad

Quote from: Mutaman on November 23, 2018, 04:57:48 PM
After 4 years of pretty mediocre results (10 games under .500 in the conference) despite one of the biggest basketball budgets in the country, I'd say most folks have been pretty patient.

.500 the last three years, two of those years the Conference had a team winning the national championship, plus others that went to Final Four and Elite 8.  Conference no worse than 3rd in those three years.  But use the first year under Wojo in which he was 4-14 (that's your 10 games under) to keep your agenda going.
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
— Plato

Galway Eagle

Quote from: WarriorDad on November 23, 2018, 05:26:39 PM
.500 the last three years, two of those years the Conference had a team winning the national championship, plus others that went to Final Four and Elite 8.  Conference no worse than 3rd in those three years.  But use the first year under Wojo in which he was 4-14 (that's your 10 games under) to keep your agenda going.

Who went to the FF? By my count the Big East's runs have been Nova win the championship twice, Xavier with an elite 8 and sweet 16, Butler with a Sweet 16.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

skianth16

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Quote from: WarriorDad on November 23, 2018, 05:24:20 PM
Based on what research?  Your buddies you talk to after the game?

Yup. Same "research" as everyone else.

Do you have a better way to gauge the fanbase?

Mutaman

Quote from: WarriorDad on November 23, 2018, 05:26:39 PM
.500 the last three years, two of those years the Conference had a team winning the national championship, plus others that went to Final Four and Elite 8.  Conference no worse than 3rd in those three years.  But use the first year under Wojo in which he was 4-14 (that's your 10 games under) to keep your agenda going.

My agenda??? Explain to me my agenda. Wojo seems like a nice guy who is a good ambassador for the program. Are you satisfied with the results the last few years? I'm not satisfied with two wins in the NIT . Maybe Buzz spoiled me. That's my position, I don't think I have an agenda.

Hope you're getting help with your emotional problems Chico.

Mutaman

Quote from: Sultan of South Wayne on November 23, 2018, 05:23:40 PM
I have explained it before.  Marquette includes the rent paid for the FF in the basketball budget.  I am not sure, but I do believe that they allocate some costs related to academic support and athletic training toward basketball as well.  Other schools may not do that.  In other words, it's not a completely accurate survey because of these differences in reporting.

The bottom line is that Marquette doesn't have the overall resources available that the P5 football schools do, but they do devote a great deal to its basketball program.

Fair enough. I learned something.

skianth16

Quote from: Mutaman on November 23, 2018, 05:36:42 PM
My agenda??? Explain to me my agenda. Wojo seems like a nice guy who is a good ambassador for the program. Are you satisfied with the results the last few years? I'm not satisfied with two wins in the NIT . Maybe Buzz spoiled me. That's my position, I don't think I have an agenda.

I'll drink to that.

WarriorDad

Quote from: Mutaman on November 23, 2018, 05:36:42 PM
My agenda??? Explain to me my agenda. Wojo seems like a nice guy who is a good ambassador for the program. Are you satisfied with the results the last few years? I'm not satisfied with two wins in the NIT . Maybe Buzz spoiled me. That's my position, I don't think I have an agenda.

Hope you're getting help with your emotional problems Chico.

Chico,

If you don't have an agenda, why did you make a claim of 10 games under .500, but everyone knows that was year one in a rebuild.  You went overboard talking about 10 games under, but apparently couldn't recognize .500 in the last three?  Feels like an agenda, chico. 
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
— Plato

Mutaman

Quote from: WarriorDad on November 23, 2018, 08:29:45 PM
Chico,

If you don't have an agenda, why did you make a claim of 10 games under .500, but everyone knows that was year one in a rebuild.  You went overboard talking about 10 games under, but apparently couldn't recognize .500 in the last three?  Feels like an agenda, chico.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O8kRTVkjEI

manny31

Honestly.. I hesitate to ask but I will anyway.
Who is Chicos posting under and the same question for Ners?
Thanks...

tower912

Quote from: manny31 on November 23, 2018, 09:03:08 PM
Honestly.. I hesitate to ask but I will anyway.
Who is Chicos posting under and the same question for Ners?
Thanks...
Ners is floorslapper.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

manny31

Quote from: tower912 on November 23, 2018, 09:04:28 PM
Ners is floorslapper.   

Ok, got it. Thanks. How about Chicos? I thought "WarriorDad" but was throw by an exchange that involved MUtaman??? Apologies for any collateral damage...

tower912

It is widely assumed that Warriordad is Chico.    He is being very cagey and throwing up smoke every chance he gets.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Bocephys

Quote from: tower912 on November 23, 2018, 09:10:50 PM
It is widely assumed that Warriordad is Chico.    He is being very cagey and throwing up smoke every chance he gets.

Doesn't he also have BillyHoyle and one other one?

Herman Cain

Quote from: tower912 on November 23, 2018, 09:10:50 PM
It is widely assumed that Warriordad is Chico.    He is being very cagey and throwing up smoke every chance he gets.
Needs to be a general amnesty.
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    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

wadesworld

Quote from: Mutaman on November 23, 2018, 05:12:07 PM
And  all these years I thought the Yankees had an unfair advantage when it came to competing with the Reds.

So you think what Arizona was paying its players is in their books? LOL!

Newsdreams

We won so F this thread!!
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willie warrior

Quote from: tower912 on November 23, 2018, 09:04:28 PM
Ners is floorslapper.   
yes, and Willie is mazzoburger. Remember if you read it on the internet, it has to be true.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

wadesworld

Quote from: willie warrior on November 23, 2018, 11:02:30 PM
yes, and Willie is mazzoburger. Remember if you read it on the internet, it has to be true.

Lol, uhh, not that there was any question, but thanks for confirming that. Hahahaha

Mutaman

Quote from: manny31 on November 23, 2018, 09:08:27 PM
Ok, got it. Thanks. How about Chicos? I thought "WarriorDad" but was throw by an exchange that involved MUtaman??? Apologies for any collateral damage...

i can't be Chico. I've never said anything discriminatory about black people (that I recall) and i don't think I've ever said anything bad about Buzz.

Mutaman


Mutaman

Quote from: wadesworld on November 23, 2018, 09:48:39 PM
So you think what Arizona was paying its players is in their books? LOL!

Fair point. Plus I assume unlike Arizona and Ohio State, Wojo's players actually have to go to class.

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