Losing Formula: Kneejerk Substituting (Wojo's forte)

[wadesworld]

I'm on my phone so can't post all the numbers but this is factually inaccurate. Even when TC didn't "start" there wasn't an appreciable difference in his minutes played and HC played no PG until sophomore year

Dude stop it.  That doesn't fit the Ners agenda.

[Silent Verbal]

Traci was okay, but he had a low ceiling and was never going to be anything more than a role player at the high major level.  Better than Derrick, but on a good team, he'd be similar to what Derrick was in 2012-13.  I'm sure Wojo would've been happy to have him around this year and last, but TC obviously wanted to be more than a junkyard dog type of guy.  I don't blame him for transferring and never thought his leaving was a huge loss.

[Herman Cain]

Traci was okay, but he had a low ceiling and was never going to be anything more than a role player at the high major level.  Better than Derrick, but on a good team, he'd be similar to what Derrick was in 2012-13.  I'm sure Wojo would've been happy to have him around this year and last, but TC obviously wanted to be more than a junkyard dog type of guy.  I don't blame him for transferring and never thought his leaving was a huge loss.

He would have been a contributor as he was one of the few guys we had that was actually quick.  We needed a junkyard dog. I liked the kid and hope he does well at LaSalle.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Traci was okay, but he had a low ceiling and was never going to be anything more than a role player at the high major level.  Better than Derrick, but on a good team, he'd be similar to what Derrick was in 2012-13.  I'm sure Wojo would've been happy to have him around this year and last, but TC obviously wanted to be more than a junkyard dog type of guy.  I don't blame him for transferring and never thought his leaving was a huge loss.

I expected him to do a lot more at a mid-major, though.    Of course, he is only 4 games in as well and may need time to settle in like all our recent transfers have.

[wadesworld]

I expected him to do a lot more at a mid-major, though.    Of course, he is only 4 games in as well and may need time to settle in like all our recent transfers have.

In Ners time, Traci has scored 27 points in his 1 year and 11 months at LaSalle.

[Silent Verbal]

I expected him to do a lot more at a mid-major, though.    Of course, he is only 4 games in as well and may need time to settle in like all our recent transfers have.

He's doing about what I expected.  I liked him, but never thought he had high major talent.  To me, he was a Mike Deane level player.  Even if he'd been on the team last year, I still think Wojo would've played Rowsey and Markus together more often than not.  TC thought that, too, and that's why he's not here anymore.  Heck, if it wasn't for Scoop, I'd have mostly forgotten about him and Haani.

[GGGG]

He would have been a contributor as he was one of the few guys we had that was actually quick.  We needed a junkyard dog. I liked the kid and hope he does well at LaSalle.

Traci wasn't quick.

[Herman Cain]

He's doing about what I expected.  I liked him, but never thought he had high major talent.  To me, he was a Mike Deane level player.  Even if he'd been on the team last year, I still think Wojo would've played Rowsey and Markus together more often than not.  TC thought that, too, and that's why he's not here anymore.  Heck, if it wasn't for Scoop, I'd have mostly forgotten about him and Haani.

I think your correct about Markus and Andrew getting the lions share of the guard minutes and Traci understanding that. I believe Traci brought something to the table that none of the other players had so we did lose a skill set that would have come in handy from time to time.

[wadesworld]

I think Greg is pretty similar to Traci.  Traci a bit stronger, Greg a bit better shooter.

[Herman Cain]

I think Greg is pretty similar to Traci.  Traci a bit stronger, Greg a bit better shooter.

Greg is also a pogo stick.

[Floorslapper]

I'm on my phone so can't post all the numbers but this is factually inaccurate. Even when TC didn't "start" there wasn't an appreciable difference in his minutes played and HC played no PG until sophomore year

#FakeNews.  Cheatham played PG quite a bit as a freshman...and started in that role Game 1 of his career at MU.  Duane was tried at PG for about 3 games as I recall when Traci was put on the bench games 19-29.  As that post reflected, Traci's role was all over and it speaks to my overarching frustration with Wojo:  He is all over the place with lineups and roles.

I think Greg is pretty similar to Traci.  Traci a bit stronger, Greg a bit better shooter.

Greg has some of that leader/dog quality in him that Traci had.  Greg is bouncier, taller, longer - but Traci quicker, with a better ability to breakdown a defense/defender off the dribble/force help.

Traci was going to be odd man out the year he transferred out as Rowsey/Howard better, but Traci brought the D and attitude to the team than neither Andrew/Markus could.  He could have been used that season in PG role, an tag team Rowsey/Markus at the 2, and roll Rowsey to PG when Traci needed a breather for 8-10 minutes per game.

[Herman Cain]

Any thoughts on this topic?

[tower912]

I predict that next rant will be about the treatment of Cain.    A really bad turnover to start the second half and he was never heard from again.   

[Newsdreams]

I predict that next rant will be about the treatment of Cain.    A really bad turnover to start the second half and he was never heard from again.   

Two terrible plays really

[ATL MU Warrior]

I predict that next rant will be about the treatment of Cain.    A really bad turnover to start the second half and he was never heard from again.   

I realize I am in the minority but I have not understood all the gushing about Cain's supposed improvements this year.  I haven't seen it. He's looked at best the same as last year but with poorer shooting.

[GoGoldenEagles]

Cain still looks like he is thinking to much. Seems to being playing scared not wanting to screw up. Causing him to pick up his dribble in bad situations. He's got the athleticism and has some skill, but mentally I don't think he's got it yet. Once his confidence and basketball IQ improves I believe he could be special.

[BM1090]

Cain has been pretty bad. Solid defender because of his length but struggles to move laterally. Offers nothing on offense currently if he is unable to knock down an open jumper.

Still young and can improve, but he needs to learn to dribble and pass capably.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Cain's defense is much better this season, that's why he's starting. His rebounding has improved as well. He's bringing nothing on the offensive end at the moment. Not his fault this game. Louisville's entire strategy was to give no breathing room on the three point line and he simply isn't quick enough to do anything besides catch and shoot.