MU will be easy to coach the next few days

[tower912]

1.   Speed kills.   IU was faster across the board than MU.
2.  IU said they were going to take Markus out of the game and then they did it.   The template has been established.
3.   He is the only one on the team who can consistently get his own shot. 
4.  Bailey is quicker, but he hasn't seen the ball go through the hoop.   Joey has.   But he still looks slow. 
5.  Teams are still going to post up Howard.   
6.   Abysmally bad shooting and equally poor defense is no way to win a road game. 
7.   I predicted a double digit loss.   I thought MU would get rolled, but lacked the chutzpah to come out and predict it.   I thought IU looked quicker in their cupcake games than MU looked in theirs.   I thought MU was not going to handle their first road game of the year well.   I thought IU's published plan to stop Howard was going to work because of team speed.  And the fact that MU does not have another playmaker yet.    I'm done beating this horse.   
8.   It was one game.   I still think MU finishes top 3 in the Big East and gets about a 5 seed in the dance. 


9.  So nice to hear from voices that we haven't heard from in a while.   

[5DollarPitcher]

Fire Wojo. And before you ask - no I don't post in the off-season.

[GGGG]

The lack of speed is puzzling to me because with the players on the roster, I thought they could play faster.  I mean we had people advocating for a press during the off-season and there is no way they can do that.

[Dish]

I don't know how to say this other than Morrow and Bailey 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Galway Eagle]

Bailey Morrow and Chartouny are disappointing so far.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Fire Wojo. And before you ask - no I don't post in the off-season.

You should probably stop posting during the season, too.

[Otule's Glass Eye]

Something interesting I read today: Villanova lost by 23 to Oklahoma early in the 2016 season, then beat them in the Final 4 by 44 points to go to the National Title game which they then won. Not saying that's gonna happen but sometimes teams are way better at the end of the season than they start. The talent is there and the most Wojo is had but the question is can he actually coach them to the point of relevance. I remember some embarrassing blowout losses under Buzz (Vanderbilt at home comes to mind) and then those teams pulled it together and had postseason success. Not trying to compare Buzz and Wojo but just saying a team with early season blowout losses might be better by the end.

Joey was REALLY solid tonight can't believe Wojo thinks Sacar or Bailey deserves to start over him. Markus killed their biggest rally that was getting them back in the game with his hero ball. Needs to recognize the hot hand at the time (Sam) and defer and look for ways to get him the ball not try to take over and shoot fadeaway 3s

[GGGG]

Bailey Morrow and Chartouny are disappointing so far.

Bailey I was never expecting much from and Joe I thought would take awhile to integrate. 

But I thought Ed would be more of an impact immediately.

[Class71]

New Year but same old same old. BE is weak this year and we are stronger so agree we will finish in top 3-4. I think our expectations were higher than what we saw tonight.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Well at this point Wojo and the boys will find a way to win this year — or they won't. 

I am starting to think it's a win for me as a fan no matter the outcome. 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Woof.  We need to stop playing non Wisconsin Big 10 teams in non-conference, it never seems to go well.

18-19: Lost to Indiana by 23
17-18: Lost to Purdue by 15
16-17: Lost to Michigan by 18
15-16: Lost to Iowa by 28
14-15: Lost to Ohio State by 11
13-14: Lost to Ohio State by 17
12-13: Condensation-gate against Ohio State

7 straight seasons of scheduling a Big 10 team in the non-conference without a single win to show for it. That's a rough streak

[nyg]

Defense brutal.  Wojo knows it, media knows it, heck even scoop knows it.  Nothing has changed.

MU had 8 assists for the game.  8.

You say Joey is slow, well so be it.  18 points, 6 for 9 from field, 5 for 5 free throws. He is going to be special.

Talk about slow, tell that to Morrow.  Looks like Dwight Burke's freshman year. 

I thought Joe C. was the playmaker and defensive specialist this year, mmm......

With the 10th pick in the NBA draft, the Wizards select, Romeo Langford.  That kid is smooth.

[🏀]

November loss, no matta.

[fjm]

I'm a huge wojo supporter. But that was tough to stomach.

Howard, love him to death but he is not a PG. put anyone bigger than him or 2 guys on him at once and it's a TO. JOEC needs to start. I get he's not great on the O yet but he needs to start just for ball control.

[GoldenZebra]

Im not worried. MU always, ALWAYS has clunkers early on. Not surprised by the outcome, but wanted it to be more competitive, thats for sure.

[KipsBayEagle]

If we are going to do an honest assessment of what we have seen so far, we will be worse this year than last year.  We don't have one player talented enough to get to the rim for an easy basket.  Our one real skill, three point shooting is worse this year without Rowsey.  We are not incorporating any zone still (other than brief stretches).  We don't have a true point guard.  It is scary to think what the state of the team will be when Howard and Hauser graduate.  We are in real trouble.

[goldeneagle91114]

November loss, no matta.

True, but same problems year over year do "Matta"

[Dish]

A better game from Morrow wouldn't have gotten MU a win tonight, but something is wrong there right now. He's not a grad transfer, he was with MU all last year. Box score doesn't have it yet, but he couldn't have played more than 10 mins tonight. Being down 15 in the blink of an eye didn't dictate inside touches for MU, but through 3 games, something is off here with him.

[Herman Cain]

We flat out got our butt kicked. Have to work on fundamentals and more team work . Individualism is not the answer at this level.

[AlumKCof93]

I don't understand bailey starting.  This is a freshman in his first road game.  He hasn't done anything in first two games.  Why does he start?

He doesn't play well to start the game and doesn't play much remainder of half.  But he starts the 2nd half.  He plays very poorly and iU goes on an immediate run. Game over.

How does putting bailey in that position help him or the team?

[ATL MU Warrior]

I'm a huge wojo supporter. But that was tough to stomach.

Howard, love him to death but he is not a PG. put anyone bigger than him or 2 guys on him at once and it's a TO. JOEC needs to start. I get he's not great on the O yet but he needs to start just for ball control.

I hate to say it but I am starting to think Joe C is the Canadian Derrick Wilson. He isn't bringing anything to the offensive end. I am hopeful he'll turn it around soon.

I get it if he doesn't want to shoot threes but he needs to try to drive the ball or something to make the defense react and have to play him. His sole responsibility right now seems to be to bring the ball into the front court and then immediately pass to someone else.  That's not super helpful.

[shoothoops]

Need increased athleticism, better lateral quickness, more players that can both create their own shot, and, stay in front of their man on defense. MU will still be a good team this year and get a good NCAA seed. But it will need more of the above to go from good to great imo.

[Newsdreams]

1.   Speed kills.   IU was faster across the board than MU.
2.  IU said they were going to take Markus out of the game and then they did it.   The template has been established.
3.   He is the only one on the team who can consistently get his own shot. 
4.  Bailey is quicker, but he hasn't seen the ball go through the hoop.   Joey has.   But he still looks slow. 
5.  Teams are still going to post up Howard.   
6.   Abysmally bad shooting and equally poor defense is no way to win a road game. 
7.   I predicted a double digit loss.   I thought MU would get rolled, but lacked the chutzpah to come out and predict it.   I thought IU looked quicker in their cupcake games than MU looked in theirs.   I thought MU was not going to handle their first road game of the year well.   I thought IU's published plan to stop Howard was going to work because of team speed.  And the fact that MU does not have another playmaker yet.    I'm done beating this horse.   
8.   It was one game.   I still think MU finishes top 3 in the Big East and gets about a 5 seed in the dance. 


9.  So nice to hear from voices that we haven't heard from in a while.

2. He is easy to stop as a PG plus wastes too much energy, looked gased by end of 1st half

[brewcity77]

Markus doesn't trust anyone but Sam. His mindset is find Sam or shoot himself. Missed a wide open Joey for a bad contested three, was constantly shot hunting instead of running the offense. If Chartouny can't run alongside him or Markus can't defer at times, it will be a long season.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

That was a tough one to watch. Not much to brag about other than Joey and even he got burned repeatedly on defense. Disappointed but not worried yet. I feel like this game represents close to what our team's floor is, not it's norm. Get it out of the system and move on. If that doesn't happen, we have a serious problem.

Morrow had some brain dead moments tonight. He's probably been my biggest disappointment so far. I've seen some good things from him on defense but I cringe any time he gets the ball on offense.

Bailey and Cain both have their moments defensively but are lost on offense as well. Wojo needs to figure out how to make the pieces fit.

Cain has been playing some really nice ball. Love how he skies for rebounds. Getting better but still not great at staying in front of his man.

Markus. Set a bad tone early with those three turnovers. But lost in that is that he only had 1 turnover the remaining 33 or so minutes that he played. Can we respect for a second that a bad night for Markus still means 18 points and 4 assists?

Sam willed us back into the game on his own but then his shot disappeared. He makes the shots he normally does and maybe we have different outcome. Keep shooting young man.

Theo also showing some flashes. Really wish we had used zone tonight though I can understand the choice. Indiana is not a three point shooting team but they were making them tonight.

Nothing worked tonight. MU threes weren't falling, Indiana was splashing, dumb turnovers to start....not even FTs were dropping! Burn the tape and on to the next one