Wojo at media day

[WarriorDad]

Brian Wardle is the tailor-made replacement.

I hope not for two reasons.  Wojo at MU for a long time is priority one.  Why is Duke not going to attract a proven winner?  Kentucky went after Cal because he had won it all.  Louisville after Pitino, same reason. Ohio State for Urban Meyer, same reason.  North Carolina to Roy Williams.  Programs that big, need to score big hires.

Secondly, Brian Wardle?  Only if we struck out at least 5 other times with someone.  This is the Big East, not the Mid Continent.  He has done a good job rebuilding, but that is a different job scope entirely.  Never been to the NCAA tournament. 

[wadesworld]

I hope not for two reasons.  Wojo at MU for a long time is priority one.  Why is Duke not going to attract a proven winner?  Kentucky went after Cal because he had won it all.  Louisville after Pitino, same reason. Ohio State for Urban Meyer, same reason.  North Carolina to Roy Williams.  Programs that big, need to score big hires.

Secondly, Brian Wardle?  Only if we struck out at least 5 other times with someone.  This is the Big East, not the Mid Continent.  He has done a good job rebuilding, but that is a different job scope entirely.  Never been to the NCAA tournament.

How many head coaches has MU hired that had previous NCAA Tournament appearances?

In my lifetime the answer is 0 I believe.

[WarriorDad]

How many head coaches has MU hired that had previous NCAA Tournament appearances?

In my lifetime the answer is 0 I believe.

It isn't a prerequisite for me, only pointing out that fact. Eddie Hickey was the only one Mu ever hired that had gone to the tournament.  It was harder to make the NCAA tournament back then with only 16, then 24 teams.  Eventually 32.  There are more teams now then back in those days, but at least 100 of them have no conceivable shot of making the tournament unless they win their conference tournament.

If we continue on the path of assistants from major programs (Michigan State, Arizona, Duke) that has worked out.  The last two hires of head coaches from mid size programs, didn't work out.  Bob Dukiet and Mike Deane.  Though a guy named Al McGuire did, along with his NBA bonafides.

EDIT:  Mike Deane went to the tournament at Siena one time, too.

[brewcity77]

Relatively successful is who we would target?  Dare to to dream big.   

He took Green Bay from a middling Horizon team to the top of the league. His first Bradley team was sub-300, three years later they are projected just outside the top-100 and top-4 in the league. He hasn't finished the Bradley rebuild, but they could contend for the MVC as soon as this year and definitely by next year.

Relatively successful only because he's only through year 3 in the second rebuild. I'd take Wardle without question. He's a good coach and would also likely view MU as a destination job.

[MuMark]

TJ Otzelberger would be worth a look.

I'm not sold on Wardle......yet.

If Wojo left I'd rather have Stan promoted.

[GGGG]

I am assuming that Wardle continues to grow as a coach, and that Wojo wouldn't leave MU for a number of years. 

[Herman Cain]

I hope not for two reasons.  Wojo at MU for a long time is priority one.  Why is Duke not going to attract a proven winner?  Kentucky went after Cal because he had won it all.  Louisville after Pitino, same reason. Ohio State for Urban Meyer, same reason.  North Carolina to Roy Williams.  Programs that big, need to score big hires.

Secondly, Brian Wardle?  Only if we struck out at least 5 other times with someone.  This is the Big East, not the Mid Continent.  He has done a good job rebuilding, but that is a different job scope entirely.  Never been to the NCAA tournament.

Just for a moment lets say my scenario plays out. Wojo has a good year this year (s16), goes to the top of the coaching carousel and follows it up with another similar year and then Coach Izzo retires and Wojo gets that job. Now , whoever steps into MU at that point is inheriting something relatively strong. When Buzz vacated we had a lot of top flight coaches interested and I would expect the same thing to happen this time around. Although my preference would be for Stan to hang in with MU long enough to get the job when the time came. Unfortunately I think Stan will get picked up by someone next spring.

[TallTitan34]

Brian Wardle is the tailor-made replacement.

Pass.

[4everwarriors]

Tom Crean is another example

O yeah, he sure as chit is an example all write. An example of watt a playa, like #3, kan due four a bozo idiot, aina?

[wadesworld]

O yeah, he sure as chit is an example all write. An example of watt a playa, like #3, kan due four a bozo idiot, aina?

I started laughing my ass off once I saw your name pop up and the post you were responding to. Knew it would be good. Did not disappoint.

[GGGG]

I started laughing my ass off once I saw your name pop up and the post you were responding to. Knew it would be good. Did not disappoint.

If by "good" you mean "tired and predictable," then yes.

[4everwarriors]

Pontiff, ur just pissed ya threw up a 60 mph, non-breakin' fastball, aina?

[GGGG]

Pontiff, ur just pissed ya threw up a 60 mph, non-breakin' fastball, aina?

Nah. I knew you were going to say something and I knew it wouldn't be funny.

I just don't care.

[Floorslapper]

How many head coaches has MU hired that had previous NCAA Tournament appearances?

In my lifetime the answer is 0 I believe.

Think Mike Deane had a couple at Sienna.

Ben Howland could have been hired.  Incidentally he has Mississippi State at 23 in pre-season Pomeroy and he started on the job one year later than Wojo at MU.

In other related news:
Shaka at Texas 15 (also started one-year after Wojo began at MU.)

Hard to believe Gard and Madison projected at 20 this upcoming year by Pomeroy.

Will be interesting to see how things play out this season.  For the first time in 5 years, there is consensus among the fanbase as to what the team should achieve.  Every poster projecting NCAA tournament, and not sure I've seen one projection that we LOSE our first round game of NCAA.

Top 32 or bust this season, so it seems.

[wadesworld]

Think Mike Deane had a couple at Sienna.

Ben Howland could have been hired.  Incidentally he has Mississippi State at 23 in pre-season Pomeroy and he started on the job one year later than Wojo at MU.

In other related news:
Shaka at Texas 15 (also started one-year after Wojo began at MU.)

Hard to believe Gard and Madison projected at 20 this upcoming year by Pomeroy.

Will be interesting to see how things play out this season.  For the first time in 5 years, there is consensus among the fanbase as to what the team should achieve.  Every poster projecting NCAA tournament, and not sure I've seen one projection that we LOSE our first round game of NCAA.

Top 32 or bust this season, so it seems.

Preseason rankings are very important.

[WarriorDad]

Think Mike Deane had a couple at Sienna.

Ben Howland could have been hired.  Incidentally he has Mississippi State at 23 in pre-season Pomeroy and he started on the job one year later than Wojo at MU.

In other related news:
Shaka at Texas 15 (also started one-year after Wojo began at MU.)

Hard to believe Gard and Madison projected at 20 this upcoming year by Pomeroy.

Will be interesting to see how things play out this season.  For the first time in 5 years, there is consensus among the fanbase as to what the team should achieve.  Every poster projecting NCAA tournament, and not sure I've seen one projection that we LOSE our first round game of NCAA.

Top 32 or bust this season, so it seems.

Mike Deane had one at Siena, I will edit my earlier response. 

Doesn't it depend who we play in that first round game, where it is, what the seeds are? 

[WarriorDad]

Preseason rankings are very important.

Like tators on a bull

[Galway Eagle]

I hope not for two reasons.  Wojo at MU for a long time is priority one.  Why is Duke not going to attract a proven winner?  Kentucky went after Cal because he had won it all.  Louisville after Pitino, same reason. Ohio State for Urban Meyer, same reason.  North Carolina to Roy Williams.  Programs that big, need to score big hires.

Secondly, Brian Wardle?  Only if we struck out at least 5 other times with someone.  This is the Big East, not the Mid Continent.  He has done a good job rebuilding, but that is a different job scope entirely.  Never been to the NCAA tournament.

Cal hadn't won it all before Kentucky. He lost to Kansas with Rose and lost in the Final Four with Camby.

[brewcity77]

If I'm looking at a mid major coach, I place more on consistent league success than NCAA appearances. When you're in a one bid league, a few lucky breaks can turn a marginal coach into the next big thing. How did Ohio's success propel John Groce? Did Dunk City allow Andy Enfield to lift USC above their perennial bubble team life?

I prefer a mid major coach that can build and sustain over one that can catch lightning in a bottle. If in 3-5 years Wojo leaves and Wardle has Bradley regularly in the top 3-4 of the MVC, that's the kind of coach I'd want, with or without the crapshoot of NCAA success.

[GGGG]

If I'm looking at a mid major coach, I place more on consistent league success than NCAA appearances. When you're in a one bid league, a few lucky breaks can turn a marginal coach into the next big thing. How did Ohio's success propel John Groce? Did Dunk City allow Andy Enfield to lift USC above their perennial bubble team life?

I prefer a mid major coach that can build and sustain over one that can catch lightning in a bottle. If in 3-5 years Wojo leaves and Wardle has Bradley regularly in the top 3-4 of the MVC, that's the kind of coach I'd want, with or without the crapshoot of NCAA success.

Agree completely.  The ability to build and sustain a program is the most important thing to look for in a coach. 

[Floorslapper]

Preseason rankings are very important.

No doubt.  The topic is dominating Scoop at present.

P.S. - Your sarcasm was noted.  But, clearly we are a starved fanbase.

[Pakuni]

If I'm looking at a mid major coach, I place more on consistent league success than NCAA appearances. When you're in a one bid league, a few lucky breaks can turn a marginal coach into the next big thing. How did Ohio's success propel John Groce? Did Dunk City allow Andy Enfield to lift USC above their perennial bubble team life?

I prefer a mid major coach that can build and sustain over one that can catch lightning in a bottle. If in 3-5 years Wojo leaves and Wardle has Bradley regularly in the top 3-4 of the MVC, that's the kind of coach I'd want, with or without the crapshoot of NCAA success.

On the other hand, Mike Deane was a mid major coach that built and sustained at Siena.
Recruiting is 80 percent of your success in college hoops, and Marquette has been most successful when choosing a coach who had a record of recruiting success at a major conference program (i.e. O'Neill, Crean, Buzz), as opposed to hiring a guy with sustained success on a lower level (Dukiet, Deane).

[🏀]

On the other hand, Mike Deane was a mid major coach that built and sustained at Siena.
Recruiting is 80 percent of your success in college hoops, and Marquette has been most successful when choosing a coach who had a record of recruiting success at a major conference program (i.e. O'Neill, Crean, Buzz), as opposed to hiring a guy with sustained success on a lower level (Dukiet, Deane).

This is what I came here to say. I want the highly regarded recruiting assistant (or associate head coach) over the mid-major builder.

[brewcity77]

I want the guy they determine to be the best fit. Jim Larranaga did fine as a mid-major builder. Bill Self did even better after starting at Oral Roberts and Tulsa.

If Wardle keeps Bradley in the mix, and especially if he does add some postseason success, he'd be a natural fit. That said, if Wojo ends up here for 25 years, I'm fine with that too, because that only happens with sustained success.

[Herman Cain]

This is what I came here to say. I want the highly regarded recruiting assistant (or associate head coach) over the mid-major builder.

That man's name is Stan Johnson....