McCain discontinues treatment

[Mutaman]

My experience has been that the folks who read and comment on Right Wing sites really "dislike" McCain. See Breitbart, Power Line, Legal Insurection, or Fox News. Its been that way for awhile. They consider him the ultimate RINO.
If you want a quick feel for this, just search "Sara Palin" in Twitter.

The comments here are pretty typical:

https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/08/john-mccain-has-died/

[MU82]

My experience has been that the folks who read and comment on Right Wing sites really "dislike" McCain. See Breitbart, Power Line, Legal Insurection, or Fox News. Its been that way for awhile. They consider him the ultimate RINO.
If you want a quick feel for this, just search "Sara Palin" in Twitter.

The comments here are pretty typical:

https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/08/john-mccain-has-died/

But are those people really "conservatives" -- or at least what conservatives have been for the last 50+ years?

[MU82]

Agreed Jockey - and all you have to do is look at the current president's approval ratings since taking office.  They really do not fluctuate that much at all.  He will be a point or two above or below 40%.  Hell the week he was implicated in a felony he was at 41%, just 4 points off his high mark.  That tells me that there is a very large base in this country who are exactly what you described above.

Disapproval ratings just hit their low point since he was sworn in.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/31/donald-trump-approval-rating-sinks-to-lowest-of-his-presidency?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

[Mutaman]

But are those people really "conservatives" -- or at least what conservatives have been for the last 50+ years?

Not real big on labels.  As far as "what conservatives have been for the last 50+ years?", Buckley was a big opponent of the Civil Rights movement and once wrote that "the White community is so entitled because, for the time being, it is the advanced race. . . ."

Reagan vetoed the Anti-apartheid Act. 

I suspect that way of thinking is strongly supported by "those people".

[WarriorDad]

It's not a "controversy." A few of us simply want to know if you are sticking with your original "McCain was hated by conservatives," or are you now going with the amended "many conservatives didn't like McCain"? Do you at least acknowledge the difference?

I provided plenty of backup to suggest he was hated by some conservatives. You seem to disagree, but I don't know how many articles I have to provide that say hate, loathe, despised.  Here is another example.  http://americablog.com/2008/01/mccain-simply-loathed-by-many-fellow-republicans.html Or was it because I said hated by conservatives and didn't put the qualifier of 'some'?  Guilty as charged on the latter, should have said some.

I suspect the conservatives you associate with may not be as conservative as others.  Establishment conservatives love McCain, which is what so many of the articles said.  They are often called rinos by the right.  There are Democrats that strongly dislike, even hate some Democrats.  Dan Lipinski here in Illinois is one that doesn't escape some of the arrows.

For most of his tenure, he was loved by conservatives, but the makeup of conservatives has changed drastically. To find out what these "new" conservatives think, just go to Breitbart and read the vile comments by the 10's of thousands. Fox had to turn off their comments section on McCain's death because of the unbelievable nastiness of these conservatives.

Not sure that is exactly true. He may have been loved mostly in Arizona, but he butted heads with both sides early on in his career. 

But by your own admission, you state the hatred some conservatives had toward McCain which is why I don't understand why people were questioning it when I said it? It exists, and it exists enough and has for a long time that it was known by most journalists.  It was highly prevalent in the '08 election, but came up much earlier than that. 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I provided plenty of backup to suggest he was hated by some conservatives.

Now we are in agreement with you. Before you said "Conservatives hated him" implying all or most conservatives hated him. Now you admit that it was some.

Really as simple as that.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

It's completely exposed Republicans' "conservative principles" as the B.S. it always was (because, hey, they're not really principles if you're willing to fold them up like a camping chair), and it shows the purported party of "values" as a valueless group of poseurs.

It has always been the case, but R's have correctly calculated that it doesn't cost them anything at all with their tribe.  Consider their stance on the deficit:  Not all concerned under Reagan/Bush, very concerned under Clinton, not the least bit concerned under Bush, insanely concerned under Obama, proactively pro-deficit to the tune of $1.5T under Trump.

And don't get me started on how evangelicals think the adulterous, porn-star-banging, thrice married p-grabber has a direct line to god.

[real chili 83]

in before the lock.

uggggh