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Date/Time: Oct 4, 2025
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New Mexico
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Mr. Sand-Knit

Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

Marquette4life


Silkk the Shaka

"4. Loyola-Chicago hovers around the top 25 all season

The Ramblers have plenty coming back and should run through the Missouri Valley once again."

Loyola is grossly overrated this year. While they will likely win the MVC on the basis that the conference is absolute garbage, they would be about a 5th/6th place team if they played in this year's down Big East, which means nowhere near a top 25 team, and likely should not make the tournament without the auto-bid.

Its DJOver

Little to no analysis of anybody.  Saying Scruggs, who averaged less than 5 ppg last year, will be a star is more than a little bold.  I wouldn't read too much into anything here.
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on August 22, 2018, 11:09:41 AM
#38 and #48 not very bullish on MU


https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2018-07-23/64-fearless-predictions-2018-19-college-basketball-season

For those wondering:

Quote38. Marquette's Markus Howard averages at least 23 points per game

Marquette might not be that good, but Howard is a scoring machine who will have plenty of opportunities. He averaged 20.4 last season and Andrew Rowsey has moved on.

48. The Big East still sends half of its league to the NCAA tournament

Villanova, Xavier, Creighton, Providence, Butler and others lost key pieces. But these teams always seem to figure it out and have high-level coaches. A few unexpected squads will pop.

38. is funny.

48. I don't think says anything bad about Marquette. It says the Big East will send 5 teams to the dance (which I think is correct). It doesn't say who those teams will be.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Mr. Sand-Knit

Quote from: Its DJOver on August 22, 2018, 02:35:30 PM
Little to no analysis of anybody.  Saying Scruggs, who averaged less than 5 ppg last year, will be a star is more than a little bold.  I wouldn't read too much into anything here.

Scruggs will be good, that is a simple one.
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

Its DJOver

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on August 22, 2018, 05:22:59 PM
Scruggs will be good, that is a simple one.

There's a difference between good, and a star.  He may end up being a star. I don't know, but saying it now, based on what he has done this far is a very bold statement, that is a simple one.
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

jsglow

Meaningless offseason drivel.  Nothing to see here.

Dr. Blackheart

Two of these should be combined into "Hiroshima:  Wojo underachieves while Shaka makes the Final 4".

Jay Bee

Surprise, surprise, the author is a young Butler grad.

"7. Butler's Kamar Baldwin wins Big East Player of the Year"

This is essentially a Belcher Report slideshow article, just on ncaa.com

Doesn't pass the #eyetest
The portal is NOT closed.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Jay Bee on August 22, 2018, 06:56:18 PM
Surprise, surprise, the author is a young Butler grad.

"7. Butler's Kamar Baldwin wins Big East Player of the Year"

This is essentially a Belcher Report slideshow article, just on ncaa.com

Doesn't pass the #eyetest

Explains his disdain for Marquette. We've played like crap the last few times we've played them.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


dgies9156

Look, for the national media to show us some love, one of two things has to happen. First, we needed a five-star recruit which, candidly, we don't have. Second, we had to come off something inspirational, which we aren't.

Hence, the after-thought treatment.

Loyola was a great story. From Sister Jean to an also-ran making the Final Four, it was every writer's dream. They're in a conference that's been crappy since Wichita State left and, if they played us 10 times last year, we'd probably have beaten them eight times.

Nobody cared because everyone wanted to cheer for an underdog, which is what the media did with Loyola. Great story, good kids and hustle. Any chance it will happen again? Never say never, but DePaul has a better chance of making the NCAA than Loyola does of returning to the Final Four.

As for us, we were totally uninspiring last year. No defense. No big wins and certainly no wins against Villanova. We make the NIT and get eliminated in the round of eight by Penn State. Yeah, that Penn State. A football school! Our team coming in is very good, no doubt. But there's no five-stars and until we begin to play some defense, nobody will take Marquette seriously.

We'll sneak up on a lot of people, I do hope. But until we win a few we should lose, we're going to be an also-ran. Hopefully, that comes early in the season!

Its DJOver

Quote from: dgies9156 on August 22, 2018, 10:10:35 PM
Look, for the national media to show us some love, one of two things has to happen. First, we needed a five-star recruit which, candidly, we don't have. Second, we had to come off something inspirational, which we aren't.

Hence, the after-thought treatment.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/24186505/basketball-power-index-surprise-west-virginia-mountaineers-marquette-golden-eagles

We're getting more favorable coverage than almost any NIT team.  I have yet to see a "Way Too Early" Big East ranking that doesn't have us in the top half, and most have us in the top 3.  Despite what we all might think, a lot of these writers know a bit about college basketball too.  There will always be some biases (Butler being favored by a Butler grad here) but for the most part we've gotten more than our share of attention, and the majority of it has been both fair and positive.
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

dgies9156

Quote from: Its DJOver on August 23, 2018, 08:40:25 AM
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/24186505/basketball-power-index-surprise-west-virginia-mountaineers-marquette-golden-eagles

We're getting more favorable coverage than almost any NIT team.  I have yet to see a "Way Too Early" Big East ranking that doesn't have us in the top half, and most have us in the top 3.  Despite what we all might think, a lot of these writers know a bit about college basketball too.  There will always be some biases (Butler being favored by a Butler grad here) but for the most part we've gotten more than our share of attention, and the majority of it has been both fair and positive.

I actually they continue to ignore us. We're going to be good, no doubt. But it will be an even better story when we come out of the cheesy hinterlands to defeat Kansas, Kansas Satte, Tennessee, Indiana and Wisconsin before we even get to the Big East!

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: dgies9156 on August 22, 2018, 10:10:35 PM
Look, for the national media to show us some love, one of two things has to happen. First, we needed a five-star recruit which, candidly, we don't have. Second, we had to come off something inspirational, which we aren't.

Hence, the after-thought treatment.

Loyola was a great story. From Sister Jean to an also-ran making the Final Four, it was every writer's dream. They're in a conference that's been crappy since Wichita State left and, if they played us 10 times last year, we'd probably have beaten them eight times.

Nobody cared because everyone wanted to cheer for an underdog, which is what the media did with Loyola. Great story, good kids and hustle. Any chance it will happen again? Never say never, but DePaul has a better chance of making the NCAA than Loyola does of returning to the Final Four.

As for us, we were totally uninspiring last year. No defense. No big wins and certainly no wins against Villanova. We make the NIT and get eliminated in the round of eight by Penn State. Yeah, that Penn State. A football school! Our team coming in is very good, no doubt. But there's no five-stars and until we begin to play some defense, nobody will take Marquette seriously.

We'll sneak up on a lot of people, I do hope. But until we win a few we should lose, we're going to be an also-ran. Hopefully, that comes early in the season!

Disagree with that. They were a quality team last year that yes, got some lucky bounces in a single-elimination tournament. They were better than us last year though, no doubt. They should be an average team this year that will beat up on a bad conference and be overrated all year as a result. We would beat them 8/10 or better this year, of that I'm confident.

Its DJOver

Quote from: dgies9156 on August 23, 2018, 08:56:51 AM
I actually they continue to ignore us. We're going to be good, no doubt. But it will be an even better story when we come out of the cheesy hinterlands to defeat Kansas, Kansas Satte, Tennessee, Indiana and Wisconsin before we even get to the Big East!

Don't get me wrong, if we had made the tourney and made a run, I think we'd be getting more Loyola-esque coverage, but what NIT quarter final team is getting more preseason respect than us?  Then general consensus that everyone seems to be saying about us, is that we have a lot of potential, but it means nothing until we learn to play defense.  I don't think there is a better one sentence analysis of our team than that.
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

Mr. Sand-Knit

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Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on August 23, 2018, 09:00:23 AM
Disagree with that. They were a quality team last year that yes, got some lucky bounces in a single-elimination tournament. They were better than us last year though, no doubt. They should be an average team this year that will beat up on a bad conference and be overrated all year as a result. We would beat them 8/10 or better this year, of that I'm confident.

We had very very few quality wins last year.  We gave up almost 90 points per game in BE play.  To say we beat a good team 8 out of 10 times is pure revisionist history or early onset Alzheimer's.

Apologies i meant to copy the quote that stated we would have beaten Loyola 8 of 10 last year.  I am in agreement with the above statement, except for the 8-10 this year guarantee.  Until we demonstrate we can guard our shadow i have no more than a coin toss confidence that we can beat above average teams
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on August 23, 2018, 09:14:29 AM
We had very very few quality wins last year.  We gave up almost 90 points per game in BE play.  To say we beat a good team 8 out of 10 times is pure revisionist history or early onset Alzheimer's.

Apologies i meant to copy the quote that stated we would have beaten Loyola 8 of 10 last year.  I am in agreement with the above statement, except for the 8-10 this year guarantee.  Until we demonstrate we can guard our shadow i have no more than a coin toss confidence that we can beat above average teams

Loyola has a pre-conference rematch with Nevada. I would put money down that they will lose it by 10+. They will be an average team at best this year.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on August 23, 2018, 09:14:29 AM
We had very very few quality wins last year.  We gave up almost 90 points per game in BE play.  To say we beat a good team 8 out of 10 times is pure revisionist history or early onset Alzheimer's.

Apologies i meant to copy the quote that stated we would have beaten Loyola 8 of 10 last year.  I am in agreement with the above statement, except for the 8-10 this year guarantee.  Until we demonstrate we can guard our shadow i have no more than a coin toss confidence that we can beat above average teams

Loyola had ugly losses to Milwaukee, Indiana St, Bradley, Missouri state and Boise St. meanwhile we had bad losses to Depaul, Georgia and St. John's (a St. John's team that took down duke and Nova that week).

If we had the schedule Loyola had last year we would've cleaned up. It's the catch 22 of being in a power conference, there's years where you're only ok for a High major, like last year or the ellenson year, but likely would've been great in a mid major conference and made the tournament.
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Jay Bee

Quote from: Its DJOver on August 23, 2018, 08:40:25 AMI have yet to see a "Way Too Early" Big East ranking that doesn't have us in the top half, and most have us in the top 3.  Despite what we all might think, a lot of these writers know a bit about college basketball too.

NBC Sports had us at #8 in the BEast (lol).

https://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2018/05/22/big-east-conference-reset-perennial-powers-must-reload/
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Jay Bee on August 23, 2018, 09:50:50 AM
NBC Sports had us at #8 in the BEast (lol).

https://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2018/05/22/big-east-conference-reset-perennial-powers-must-reload/

https://twitter.com/PaintTouches/status/1031950507894562817


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And because we haven't poked fun at NBC Sports (and BPI) in a while, here's an overview of #mubb Big East projections to date:

BPI: 1
ESPN: 2
SI: 2
Roth: 2
Katz: 2
TRank: 3
NBC: 8
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Its DJOver

Quote from: Jay Bee on August 23, 2018, 09:50:50 AM
NBC Sports had us at #8 in the BEast (lol).

https://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2018/05/22/big-east-conference-reset-perennial-powers-must-reload/

Similar to how the NCAA article was written by a Butler grad, I did a quick Google search on one Travis Hines and you'll never guess what B14 rodent based education he got.

Also, only having one all conference player feature in the top 4 teams is a little peculiar, especially considering that Mr. Spellman is no longer at Villanova.
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but


THRILLHO

Quote from: Its DJOver on August 23, 2018, 10:07:02 AM
Similar to how the NCAA article was written by a Butler grad, I did a quick Google search on one Travis Hines and you'll never guess what B14 rodent based education he got.

Minnesota Golden Gophers?

Jay Bee

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