More indictments

[Pakuni]

Alleges the families of six players received payments for those kids to attend four adidas-sponsored schools: Louisville, Miami, NC State and Kansas.

Maybe Quentin Grimes wants to re-think his commitment?

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/us-attorney-s-office-announces-additional-charges-against-athletic-apparel-company

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

I think even if Grimes did decommit, it's been made pretty clear he aint coming here.

[brewcity77]

I think even if Grimes did decommit, it's been made pretty clear he aint coming here.

If he decommits from Kansas, my money is in Texas.

[barfolomew]

If he decommits from Kansas, my money is in Texas.

I'm no economist, but that seems like an arbitrary reason to change banks.

[jesmu84]

If he decommits from Kansas, my money is in Texas.

So is his

[GooooMarquette]

I'm no economist, but that seems like an arbitrary reason to change banks.

[brewcity77]

I'm no economist, but that seems like an arbitrary reason to change banks.

Damn autocorrect 

[bilsu]

If he decommits from Kansas, my money is in Texas.

I think he would follow the Arizona decommit to Villanova.

[D'Lo Brown]

I'm no economist, but that seems like an arbitrary reason to change banks.

Lol, agree.

I'm not a lawyer, but having read the indictment, it seems that Kansas' case is significantly different from NC State and Louisville's. It seems that, in Kansas' case, the player and collaborators were doing everything they could to keep Kansas from knowing at all. The indictment specifically lays this out, as the payments were arranged to seemingly pay off his decommitting from a rival apparel company/team.

Again, no expert here, but just from the raw text, I don't see how this torpedoes Kansas in any way.

[MuMark]

Apparently Kansas is a victim of a fraud perpetrated on them by Addidas ... . .   

https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/sports/new-federal-charges-college-basketball-scandal-allege-payments-steer-players-kansas-n-c-state-234400184.html?__twitter_impression=true

[NorthernDancerColt]

I'm no economist, but that seems like an arbitrary reason to change banks.

Now if he said NORTH DAKOTA, that would be meaningful. Headquarters for the Public Banking Institute, which champions complete independence from TBTF Wall Street-tied institutions.

[Ellenson Guerrero]

Lol, agree.

I'm not a lawyer, but having read the indictment, it seems that Kansas' case is significantly different from NC State and Louisville's. It seems that, in Kansas' case, the player and collaborators were doing everything they could to keep Kansas from knowing at all. The indictment specifically lays this out, as the payments were arranged to seemingly pay off his decommitting from a rival apparel company/team.

Again, no expert here, but just from the raw text, I don't see how this torpedoes Kansas in any way.

I haven't read the updated indictment, so I'll take your word for what is alleged there, but color me skeptical that Addidas was shelling out tens of thousands of dollars to get players to commit to KU without KU at least having reason to suspect what was going on.

[Ellenson Guerrero]

Doesn't this section implicate a coach at Kansas?  https://twitter.com/danwetzel/status/983827948494098432?s=21

Also, it's pretty hilarious that Silvio de Sousa was worried about his guardian having to repay Nike its initial money.  What was Nike going to do, so then for breach of contract?

[brewcity77]

I haven't read the updated indictment, so I'll take your word for what is alleged there, but color me skeptical that Addidas was shelling out tens of thousands of dollars to get players to commit to KU without KU at least having reason to suspect what was going on.

I have to imagine at some point, Self told someone at Adidas "Do what you need, but keep my name out of it." They could've been steering players to Kansas for years without the staff being aware of exactly how they landed the kids they did.

[f/k/a humanlung]

I have to imagine at some point, Self told someone at Adidas "Do what you need, but keep my name out of it." They could've been steering players to Kansas for years without the staff being aware of exactly how they landed the kids they did.

I am no expert on Bill Self but this seems like a pretty big assumption about someone who has had a spotless reputation so far in his career.  Like I said, I am no expert but I cannot recall any issues in Self's past.

[Pakuni]

Doesn't this section implicate a coach at Kansas?  https://twitter.com/danwetzel/status/983827948494098432?s=21

Also, it's pretty hilarious that Silvio de Sousa was worried about his guardian having to repay Nike its initial money.  What was Nike going to do, so then for breach of contract?

Actually, probably Under Armour. de Sousa was headed to Maryland before Kansas.

[Pakuni]

I am no expert on Bill Self but this seems like a pretty big assumption about someone who has had a spotless reputation so far in his career.  Like I said, I am no expert but I cannot recall any issues in Self's past.

It's safe to say all college coaches, and especially the successful ones, are control freaks who know everything that goes on with their program.
That being the case, it's pretty naive to believe Self had no clue about why a kid who by all accounts was headed to Maryland suddenly flipped to Kansas. Self may very well be completely insulated here, but for him to have no idea of what was happening here seems unlikely.

[Dr. Blackheart]

I am no expert on Bill Self but this seems like a pretty big assumption about someone who has had a spotless reputation so far in his career.  Like I said, I am no expert but I cannot recall any issues in Self's past.

Dollar Bill Self?

http://goemaw.com/forum/index.php?topic=10271.0

[Loose Cannon]

It's safe to say all college coaches, and especially the successful ones, are control freaks who know everything that goes on with their program.
That being the case, it's pretty naive to believe Self had no clue about why a kid who by all accounts was headed to Maryland suddenly flipped to Kansas. Self may very well be completely insulated here, but for him to have no idea of what was happening here seems unlikely.

Well Said

[Benny B]

It's safe to say all college coaches, and especially the successful ones, are control freaks who know everything that goes on with their program.
That being the case, it's pretty naive to believe Self had no clue about why a kid who by all accounts was headed to Maryland suddenly flipped to Kansas. Self may very well be completely insulated here, but for him to have no idea of what was happening here seems unlikely.

Duly nominated for the Scoop Understatement of the Year Award.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I am no expert on Bill Self but this seems like a pretty big assumption about someone who has had a spotless reputation so far in his career.  Like I said, I am no expert but I cannot recall any issues in Self's past.

There's been whispers around self forever and he's had a a lot of players with off the court issues.

[dgies9156]

Look for the next reorganization among major college sports powers to be

1) Nike
2) Addidas
3) New Balance
4) Others!

[Spotcheck Billy]

I am no expert on Bill Self but this seems like a pretty big assumption about someone who has had a spotless reputation so far in his career.  Like I said, I am no expert but I cannot recall any issues in Self's past.

In all of these cases the Feds are investigating, I wonder how a coach with no participation in recruiting a top ranked recruit like Silvio de Sousa just so happens to keep an open scholarship available for a last minute commitment.

[auburnmarquette]

I'm no economist, but that seems like an arbitrary reason to change banks.

Haha! Excellent. But I need to disagree - a much bigger bank that has not yet faced indictments - I'd make that switch!

[wadesworld]

The Carlton Bragg and Josh Jackson recruitments were shady and the car situation this year was clear as day that Billy Preston was driving a car he shouldn't have been.