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tower912

Ben Steele confirming on twitter. 4-5 month recovery time.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: tower912 on March 21, 2018, 10:28:12 AM
Ben Steele confirming on twitter. 4-5 month recovery time.

4-5 months recovery hurts when basketball offseason is only 6-7 months depending on if you say practice or games are beginning.
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Vander Blue Man Group

Best case scenario is he's able to be 100% by late July.  Sam is already a pretty polished player so missing this time won't hurt as much as it would for some other guys.  Hopefully he'll still be able to use those couple of months before the season starts to continue to get even better. 

Tosadoc

My question to Wojo and the staff is why he risked further injury to the hip
playing in the NIT?? He certainly wasn't himself the last few games.

jsglow

Quote from: Tosadoc on March 21, 2018, 11:06:30 AM
My question to Wojo and the staff is why he risked further injury to the hip
playing in the NIT?? He certainly wasn't himself the last few games.

Because we were trying to win in March.  I'm sure if the docs felt it too risky, they would have sat him down.

muwarrior69

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Quote from: Tosadoc on March 21, 2018, 11:06:30 AM
My question to Wojo and the staff is why he risked further injury to the hip
playing in the NIT?? He certainly wasn't himself the last few games.

Because like many here the only thing that matters is winning.

tower912

Quote from: Tosadoc on March 21, 2018, 11:06:30 AM
My question to Wojo and the staff is why he risked further injury to the hip
playing in the NIT?? He certainly wasn't himself the last few games.

Big Daddy referenced that it had been determined that playing would not harm it further.   Sam wanted to play.    There weren't many other options. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

muwarrior69

Quote from: tower912 on March 21, 2018, 10:28:12 AM
Ben Steele confirming on twitter. 4-5 month recovery time.

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Goose

jsglow

I did not know that Sam has a 4-5 rehab ahead of him prior to this morning. I think I would have passed on March success and held him out. We did have not great success in Jan or Feb, so to think March would be the month, might have been wishful thinking.

kryza

Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 21, 2018, 11:13:51 AM
Because like many here the only thing that matters is winning whining.

jsglow

Quote from: Goose on March 21, 2018, 11:20:27 AM
jsglow

I did not know that Sam has a 4-5 rehab ahead of him prior to this morning. I think I would have passed on March success and held him out. We did have not great success in Jan or Feb, so to think March would be the month, might have been wishful thinking.

Disagree vehemently.  Championship mentality is earned every day.  Ask yourself this.  Armed with the exact same information, do you think Vince Lombardi would have sat him?  Therein lies your answer.

MUEng92

Maybe during his recovery period, he could develop a Larry Bird like shooting form that only requires a jump of 1" off the ground.

The Lens

Quote from: jsglow on March 21, 2018, 11:52:14 AM
Disagree vehemently.  Championship mentality is earned every day.  Ask yourself this.  Armed with the exact same information, do you think Vince Lombardi would have sat him?  Therein lies your answer.

LOL, you just invoked Lombardi when talking about the NIT.
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4everwarriors

Guessin' SH has a torn labrum, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

lohaus

Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 21, 2018, 12:33:29 PM
Guessin' SH has a torn labrum, aina?

That would be my guess with a FAI.  Maybe shaving some bone down to smooth it out and repair labrum.

Goose

Lens

When I think NIT, I automatically think Lombardi and The Glory Years. Silly me, I thought everyone did.

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79Warrior

Quote from: jsglow on March 21, 2018, 11:52:14 AM
Disagree vehemently.  Championship mentality is earned every day.  Ask yourself this.  Armed with the exact same information, do you think Vince Lombardi would have sat him?  Therein lies your answer.

Silly comparison. Pros versus kids.

jsglow

Yeah, because giving one's best is foreign in our culture today. The way you become a champion is to play like a champion.  It is precisely the reason that Lombardi is the greatest coach in any sport ever. Nobody suggests that Sam should have risked further injury. That's foolish. But with that risk considered and deemed at or near zero, we WIN EVERY DAY.  Or do you armchairs think that's only a slogan?

Goose

This armchair thinks it is slogan at MU. I do believe organizations and sport teams live that mantra. To believe Wojo & Co. fall into that camp is being a bit naive, IMO.

tower912

It is a fascinating juxtaposition with the USC players voting on whether to play in the NIT.  With the football players skipping the lesser bowl games. With it being advocated to cut off financial aid for players choosing to not participate.

Sam and his family made a choice.  Thank you, Sam.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Loose Cannon

Quote from: The Lens on March 21, 2018, 12:26:49 PM
LOL, you just invoked Lombardi when talking about the NIT.

Not against the Scoop Bylaws.
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muwarrior69

Quote from: jsglow on March 21, 2018, 02:33:11 PM
Yeah, because giving one's best is foreign in our culture today. The way you become a champion is to play like a champion.  It is precisely the reason that Lombardi is the greatest coach in any sport ever. Nobody suggests that Sam should have risked further injury. That's foolish. But with that risk considered and deemed at or near zero, we WIN EVERY DAY.  Or do you armchairs think that's only a slogan?

Joe McCarthy and Casey Stengel 7 World Series; Red Aurebach 16 NBA Titles. Lombardi was a great coach but not in any sport ever.

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