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Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on March 11, 2018, 05:25:03 PM
Starting to boil. Spec after the baldy got in two straight years
Baldy has hair now.
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    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

tower912

2 degrees Kelvin.  It has been discussed before that MU handles accounting in a way that make rent at the Bradley Center part of expenditures.  Next year on paper, Marquette's expenditures will go up due to increased rent.   While MU does spend on basketball, it is not an exact representation compared to other schools.
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It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: #bansultan on March 11, 2018, 05:41:21 PM
Bad stat. Stop using it.

They should be back next year. If not the seat will undoubtedly be warm.

How is it a 'bad stat'?  There is no such thing.

Last year we spent the 3rd most per win of the NCAA tournament teams.  I wonder how much we spent this year per win to NOT make the tournament.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidching/2018/03/07/ncaa-tournaments-biggest-spenders-usually-rank-among-its-biggest-winners-too/#1d68ca647a22

oldwarrior81

Quote from: peterpan on March 11, 2018, 05:31:10 PM
This season was a failure imo. Needed to get the team to the tournament to build momentum. I say you sh*t can wojo next year if they don't make it. It'd be a good year for it. Howard/Hauser/hauser/morrow would all still be here and you'd have a year to get the new coaches players in.

This would be an interesting move.  Especially if Hauser, Hauser and Howard take their talents elsewhere after the change.

GGGG

It's a bad stat because it includes the rent we pay to BC. Other schools don't count something similar.

Bad stat.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: #bansultan on March 11, 2018, 05:47:32 PM
It's a bad stat because it includes the rent we pay to BC. Other schools don't count something similar.

Bad stat.

Oh, so its still money we have to spend.

Gotcha.

WarriorDad

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 11, 2018, 05:43:26 PM
How is it a 'bad stat'?  There is no such thing.

Last year we spent the 3rd most per win of the NCAA tournament teams.  I wonder how much we spent this year per win to NOT make the tournament.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidching/2018/03/07/ncaa-tournaments-biggest-spenders-usually-rank-among-its-biggest-winners-too/#1d68ca647a22

Bad stat because it implies the expenditures and how they are tracked are equal across all schools.  Some schools have to reimburse for scholarships, some pay rent for their buildings, some pay huge salaries while others have boosters carry the majority of the salary load.   That is why it is a bad stat. 
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
— Plato

WarriorDad

Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 11, 2018, 05:36:24 PM
I 'member when X sucked ass and wuz a guaranteed W, hey?

I remember when Wisconsin sucked ass, but they just went 19 straight years to the NCAA tournament without cheating, taking solid basketball players that they developed.  MU can do the same.
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
— Plato

GGGG

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 11, 2018, 05:49:07 PM
Oh, so its still money we have to spend.

Gotcha.


Dude don't be dumb. If you can't see why it's a bad stat I don't know what to tell you.

Marquette spends a lot just like many other schools. Many of which didn't make it either.

4everwarriors

Wojo can't carry Bo's jockstrap as a coach.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Hards Alumni

Quote from: WarriorDad on March 11, 2018, 05:50:36 PM
I remember when Wisconsin sucked ass, but they just went 19 straight years to the NCAA tournament without cheating, taking solid basketball players that they developed.  MU can do the same.

How are they going to be without a HOF coach though?  Their season was over months ago.

forgetful

Quote from: WarriorDad on March 11, 2018, 05:50:36 PM
I remember when Wisconsin sucked ass, but they just went 19 straight years to the NCAA tournament without cheating, taking solid basketball players that they developed.  MU can do the same.

Why do you say they don't cheat?  At the very best they stretch the lines just like most other top tier teams.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: WarriorDad on March 11, 2018, 05:50:36 PM
I remember when Wisconsin sucked ass, but they just went 19 straight years to the NCAA tournament without cheating, taking solid basketball players that they developed.  MU can do the same.

Their coach cheated...

WarriorDad

Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 11, 2018, 05:52:18 PM
Wojo can't carry Bo's jockstrap as a coach.

Compere year 4 vs year 4 of the two. 

In Bo Ryan's first four years of coaching, he had one conference winning record.  He was allowed the ability to cut his teeth.  Ryan was a great coach and a not so great person, but he learned his trade in the NAIA then DII of NCAA.  His first two years of DI basketball were nothing great, but he walked into a great situation at Wisconsin and performed highly.

Let us see how Coach Wojo does now that he has his guys, his program, his philosophy moving forward.  Ryan is a Hall of Famer, we would be very fortunate if Wojo turned out to be in the same league as Ryan.
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
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4everwarriors

Ryan won at all stops along the way, biggly.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Chili

Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 11, 2018, 05:23:34 PM
How's Wojo's seat, hey?
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Not much.. If you can't see vision just play in traffic.
But I like to throw handfuls...

Goose

WarriorDad

Short conversation comparing Wojo and Bo. Bo was a helluva of a coach and was for decades. Bo forget more ball than most coaches ever learned, and that is coming from a guy that strongly dislikes Bo.

WarriorDad

Quote from: forgetful on March 11, 2018, 05:55:29 PM
Why do you say they don't cheat?  At the very best they stretch the lines just like most other top tier teams.


Has there been a scintilla of evidence they have cheated in basketball? 
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
— Plato

WarriorDad

Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 11, 2018, 06:03:44 PM
Ryan won at all stops along the way, biggly.

He was 30-27 at Wisconsin Milwaukee

It took him a number of years to do much at UW Platteville, but eventually did great there, same with Madison. 
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
— Plato

Floorslapper

Quote from: WarriorDad on March 11, 2018, 06:02:28 PM
Compere year 4 vs year 4 of the two. 

In Bo Ryan's first four years of coaching, he had one conference winning record.  He was allowed the ability to cut his teeth.  Ryan was a great coach and a not so great person, but he learned his trade in the NAIA then DII of NCAA.  His first two years of DI basketball were nothing great, but he walked into a great situation at Wisconsin and performed highly.

Let us see how Coach Wojo does now that he has his guys, his program, his philosophy moving forward.  Ryan is a Hall of Famer, we would be very fortunate if Wojo turned out to be in the same league as Ryan.

Ahh...we had that this year - all Wojo's guys. 

I can tell you right now with 99.99 percent certainly, Wojo won't ever be a Hall of Fame College Basketball coach or sniff Bo Ryan's jock - whether that be as coach at MU, or if he managed to get Duke job somehow. 

Nice enough guy.  But just doesn't have the necessary "it" factor as a coach...and IMO he makes poor player personnel decisions and poor in-game adjustments.  All of that adds up to being at best a C-level coach.

WarriorDad

Quote from: Goose on March 11, 2018, 06:06:13 PM
WarriorDad

Short conversation comparing Wojo and Bo. Bo was a helluva of a coach and was for decades. Bo forget more ball than most coaches ever learned, and that is coming from a guy that strongly dislikes Bo.

One is 41 years old in his 4th year, the other is 70 years old and retired.  How was coach Ryan in his 4th year, coaching in the NAIA?
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
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4everwarriors

If Stew is legendary, Bo is James Naismith.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Warrior of Law on March 11, 2018, 05:31:48 PM
Wasn't really close either. Buzz set the program back years. I wish him nothing but the worst.


Bwahahahaha! The second most successful coach in MU history is at fault in Wojo's 4th season! Pass the crack pipe!

BM1090

Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 11, 2018, 06:17:51 PM

Bwahahahaha! The second most successful coach in MU history is at fault in Wojo's 4th season! Pass the crack pipe!

Buzz was fantastic here.

He absolutely is partially at fault for our current results.

Both can be true.

WarriorDad

Quote from: Floorslapper on March 11, 2018, 06:11:35 PM
Ahh...we had that this year - all Wojo's guys. 

I can tell you right now with 99.99 percent certainly, Wojo won't ever be a Hall of Fame College Basketball coach or sniff Bo Ryan's jock - whether that be as coach at MU, or if he managed to get Duke job somehow. 

Nice enough guy.  But just doesn't have the necessary "it" factor as a coach...and IMO he makes poor player personnel decisions and poor in-game adjustments.  All of that adds up to being at best a C-level coach.

Considering 99.9% of coaches do not make the Hall of Fame, you are going out on quite a limb.
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
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