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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #100 on: March 16, 2018, 12:45:36 PM »
Not really. Lots of elite talent in Georgia, your in-state rival is a mess, you play in a major conference, but not a particularly strong one, and your athletic department is profitable. And the expectations are pretty reasonable, at least by major school standards.
It's a better job than Pitt or UConn is right now.
$3.2MM/year will make it attractive too

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« Reply #101 on: March 16, 2018, 12:46:14 PM »
This.

Crean took his meeting in Pittsburgh and knew of the exodus coming today. Also knows UConn will be hampered for next two years. He already did that with Indiana. He's taking the best job available for him.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22792196/eight-pittsburgh-panthers-basketball-players-asking-release-wake-coaching-change

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« Reply #103 on: March 16, 2018, 02:14:46 PM »
Geez,  they had 8 players transfer last season too

There's a different thread dedicated to PITT issue.

PITT just out a top recruit, Bryce Golden also.

Coaches:https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/evans-seven-mid-major-coaches-primed-for-a-move-up-the-ranks

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« Reply #104 on: March 18, 2018, 10:20:53 AM »
Schmuck crawls inta his hole in Florida nowadayz. Dis wey he kan commute ta Athens on the Dog Bus
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« Reply #105 on: March 18, 2018, 12:25:05 PM »
Looks like Hammon took herself out of the running for the Colorado St job.  Too bad, I was hoping to see history there.  Mark Fox the leading candidate now.

Why haven't we heard anything about the UConn opening?  That's a huge hire...could represent a return to success for one of the best programs in the last 30 years, or could be the last nail in the coffin for a mid major

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« Reply #106 on: March 18, 2018, 12:30:49 PM »
Looks like Hammon took herself out of the running for the Colorado St job.  Too bad, I was hoping to see history there.  Mark Fox the leading candidate now.

Why haven't we heard anything about the UConn opening?  That's a huge hire...could represent a return to success for one of the best programs in the last 30 years, or could be the last nail in the coffin for a mid major

It's kind of interesting that there are rules requiring minority candidates being interviewed, but not for women. 

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« Reply #107 on: March 18, 2018, 12:36:36 PM »
Why haven't we heard anything about the UConn opening?  That's a huge hire...could represent a return to success for one of the best programs in the last 30 years, or could be the last nail in the coffin for a mid major

Because the candidate that UConn assumes it is hiring just lost in the NCAA tournament yesterday. I assume there will be some more noise in the coming days.
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« Reply #108 on: March 18, 2018, 12:48:17 PM »
Here's where UConn's choices regarding football and conference affiliation could really come back to bite them.

The Huskies finished the season 14-18, ranked 175th in the country according to KenPom.com. That's not even DePaul bad (101st) or Rutgers bad (132nd). It's more along the lines of forgettable programs such as Pacific and Tulane.

It's true that Pittsburgh (229th) was even worse this year. But the ACC is the 2nd best conference in the country, the diamond of ESPN's basketball package. Even a humbled program like Pittsburgh has a lot more to offer than UConn at this point, dragged down by the likes of South Florida (279th) and East Carolina (307th) in the decidedly less-than-major AAC (ranked 7th behind the Pac-12).

This is not Indiana after Kelvin Sampson. Or Kentucky after Billy Gillespie. It could be that as of right now, the UConn basketball program is nowheresville.
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« Reply #109 on: March 18, 2018, 12:52:34 PM »
Here's where UConn's choices regarding football and conference affiliation could really come back to bite them.

The Huskies finished the season 14-18, ranked 175th in the country according to KenPom.com. That's not even DePaul bad (101st) or Rutgers bad (132nd). It's more along the lines of forgettable programs such as Pacific and Tulane.

It's true that Pittsburgh (229th) was even worse this year. But the ACC is the 2nd best conference in the country, the diamond of ESPN's basketball package. Even a humbled program like Pittsburgh has a lot more to offer than UConn at this point, dragged down by the likes of South Florida (279th) and East Carolina (307th) in the decidedly less-than-major AAC (ranked 7th behind the Pac-12).

This is not Indiana after Kelvin Sampson. Or Kentucky after Billy Gillespie. It could be that as of right now, the UConn basketball program is nowheresville.

From a basketball perspective they would be a much much better conference if they kicked out USF and ECU, they are really dragging down the conference, which actually has some nice programs (Wichita State, Cincinnati, Houston, Temple, SMU, UCONN).  That is a decent core, but they have multiple other programs, really for the benefit of football, that are significantly worse than Depaul.

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« Reply #110 on: March 18, 2018, 12:53:33 PM »
UCONN without Calhoun = UNLV without Tarkanian

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« Reply #111 on: March 18, 2018, 12:56:11 PM »
Would love to see UConn prove just how desperate the university is by hiring Rick Pitino (and having it blow up in their faces, of course). UConn sucks.
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« Reply #112 on: March 18, 2018, 01:00:39 PM »
Because the candidate that UConn assumes it is hiring just lost in the NCAA tournament yesterday. I assume there will be some more noise in the coming days.
Reading between the lines, kind of has to be the Buffalo coach. Everyone else that lost yesterday would be a lateral-at-best or downward move.
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« Reply #113 on: March 18, 2018, 01:02:33 PM »
Reading between the lines, kind of has to be the Buffalo coach. Everyone else that lost yesterday would be a lateral-at-best or downward move.

Danny Hurley has some words for you.

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« Reply #114 on: March 18, 2018, 01:02:41 PM »
Here's where UConn's choices regarding football and conference affiliation could really come back to bite them.

The Huskies finished the season 14-18, ranked 175th in the country according to KenPom.com. That's not even DePaul bad (101st) or Rutgers bad (132nd). It's more along the lines of forgettable programs such as Pacific and Tulane.

It's true that Pittsburgh (229th) was even worse this year. But the ACC is the 2nd best conference in the country, the diamond of ESPN's basketball package. Even a humbled program like Pittsburgh has a lot more to offer than UConn at this point, dragged down by the likes of South Florida (279th) and East Carolina (307th) in the decidedly less-than-major AAC (ranked 7th behind the Pac-12).

This is not Indiana after Kelvin Sampson. Or Kentucky after Billy Gillespie. It could be that as of right now, the UConn basketball program is nowheresville.

Yup.  The most recent wave of conference realignment had a lot of "winners" that moved "up"
(TCU, TAMU, Louisville, Creighton/Butler/Xavier, Utah, Wichita, etc) and "winners" that found themselves in a better situation without moving (Providence and Seton Hall, SEC basketball, etc).  The only losers have been schools that struggled to adapt to newer, better conferences (Marquette and Georgetown, Syracuse and Pitt, mid-tier BIG10 teams like Illinois), but who should recover...and UConn.  Heck, it's amazing that the failure of the rest of their athletics programs hasn't dragged down the women's BBall team too.

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« Reply #115 on: March 18, 2018, 01:03:14 PM »
Reading between the lines, kind of has to be the Buffalo coach. Everyone else that lost yesterday would be a lateral-at-best or downward move.



Dan Hurley.  Rhode Island to UConn is clearly an upward move.

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« Reply #116 on: March 18, 2018, 01:23:59 PM »
Dan Hurley.  Rhode Island to UConn is clearly an upward move.

Not sure how big of an upward move, either for Hurley or for UConn.

Hurley gets to move up from the Atlantic 10 conference (ranked as high as 7th in the country less than a decade ago, but now fallen to a distant 10th) to the AAC (rated 7th in four of the five years of its existence). An improvement, but not exactly the big time.

UConn gets an experienced coach fresh off an A10 title who knows how to recruit the northeast. However, his best team was ranked just 34th by KenPom.com. While Hurley's made two straight NCAAs and won a game in each, it's not as though he has the tournament resume of Brad Stevens at Butler in the Horizon League.
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« Reply #117 on: March 18, 2018, 01:27:02 PM »

Dan Hurley.  Rhode Island to UConn is clearly an upward move.


True, but that's more because the A-10 is awful than because of UConn.

Right now, UConn is similar to - but slightly worse than - where MU was after Majerus. Several years past the legend, held it together for a while, but the trajectory was trending down.  But at least MU was regularly making it to the NCAAs under Hank and the NIT under Rick. With Ollie, they did very well for a couple of seasons, then fell off a cliff.

This hiring could resurrect the program, or send it to the kind of purgatory we faced under Dukiet.  And UConn isn't in a terribly great bargaining position in the AAC.


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« Reply #118 on: March 18, 2018, 01:28:53 PM »
Not sure how big of an upward move, either for Hurley or for UConn.

Hurley gets to move up from the Atlantic 10 conference (ranked as high as 7th in the country less than a decade ago, but now fallen to a distant 10th) to the AAC (rated 7th in four of the five years of its existence). An improvement, but not exactly the big time.

UConn gets an experienced coach fresh off an A10 title who knows how to recruit the northeast. However, his best team was ranked just 34th by KenPom.com. While Hurley's made two straight NCAAs and won a game in each, it's not as though he has the tournament resume of Brad Stevens at Butler in the Horizon League.

Danny Hurley did that at Rhode Island, not exactly a basketball powerhouse with lots of resources.  UConn still has its name, and a ton of resources.  Hurley would be a home run hire. 

The death knell of UConn is premature here.  If this hire goes bad though, it would definitely be valid. 

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« Reply #119 on: March 18, 2018, 01:32:47 PM »
I'm not pronouncing the death knell for UConn. But it looks a lot more likely today than it did when Calhoun retired. The basketball program (and perhaps the athletic program as a whole) is on shaky ground.
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« Reply #120 on: March 18, 2018, 01:35:37 PM »
Not sure how big of an upward move, either for Hurley or for UConn.

Hurley gets to move up from the Atlantic 10 conference (ranked as high as 7th in the country less than a decade ago, but now fallen to a distant 10th) to the AAC (rated 7th in four of the five years of its existence). An improvement, but not exactly the big time.

UConn gets an experienced coach fresh off an A10 title who knows how to recruit the northeast. However, his best team was ranked just 34th by KenPom.com. While Hurley's made two straight NCAAs and won a game in each, it's not as though he has the tournament resume of Brad Stevens at Butler in the Horizon League.


You are putting way too much stock in the conference and not enough in the program.

Rhode Island doesn't devote nearly the amount of resources that UConn does into their program.  UConn has a larger fan base and just won a national championship a few years ago.  URI has had some success, but it's been spotty, and once they do, their coaches leave for greener pastures.

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« Reply #121 on: March 18, 2018, 01:45:22 PM »
I guess I made my point. I'd say RI to UConn is kind of a lateral move at this point. Obviously much higher ceiling. But seems to be a lower floor at this point, too.
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« Reply #122 on: March 18, 2018, 01:54:13 PM »
I guess I made my point. I'd say RI to UConn is kind of a lateral move at this point. Obviously much higher ceiling. But seems to be a lower floor at this point, too.


How on God's green earth is it a "lateral move?"  Hurley may turn them down for whatever reason, but if 100 coaches were offered both positions, 95 of them take the UConn job.

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« Reply #123 on: March 18, 2018, 02:18:19 PM »
 It will take Georgia a few years, but they will grow to dislike Crean as much as Marquette and Indiana fans.

He’s completely vacant.

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« Reply #124 on: March 18, 2018, 02:25:13 PM »

How on God's green earth is it a "lateral move?"  Hurley may turn them down for whatever reason, but if 100 coaches were offered both positions, 95 of them take the UConn job.

Recency bias?
And by recent, we're talking the last two seasons.