2018 Grad Transfer Thread, Updated 4/19/2018

[muguru]

Great list Brew..but the one guy thats missing that I think would fit MU's team next year to a "T" is Makai Mason PG Yale

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Great list Brew..but the one guy thats missing that I think would fit MU's team next year to a "T" is Makai Mason PG Yale

Unless something has changed, he's already said he's going to Baylor.

http://www.wacotrib.com/sports/baylor/mens_basketball/yale-guard-makai-mason-transferring-to-baylor/article_a6e782c2-b566-5ca3-908e-3b40dc40ce6e.html

[TedBaxter]

Ethan and Joey are from the same AAU team

Not true.  Happ played for the Quad City Elite and Joey for the Iowa Barnstormers.

A couple other names that could be affected by coaching changes. Eric Cooper of Pepperdine and J.D. Paige of Colorado State.

http://www.pepperdinewaves.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/eric_cooper_jr_1019762.html

http://csurams.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=14

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

I will continue to hold out hope for the PG at Ball State but at this point have next to no confidence in this coaching staff.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I will continue to hold out hope for the PG at Ball State but at this point have next to no confidence in this coaching staff.

Shocking

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Great list Brew..but the one guy thats missing that I think would fit MU's team next year to a "T" is Makai Mason PG Yale

Committed to Baylor

[Newsdreams]

I will continue to hold out hope for the PG at Ball State but at this point have next to no confidence in this coaching staff.

[TedBaxter]

I will continue to hold out hope for the PG at Ball State but at this point have next to no confidence in this coaching staff.

Bill Scholl being the MU AD and formerly of Ball State probably eliminates MU.  I think Bill hired the current Ball State head coach.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Bill Scholl being the MU AD and formerly of Ball State probably eliminates MU.  I think Bill hired the current Ball State head coach.

Why would that matter?

[4everwarriors]

Scholl no matta, hey?

[Billy Hoyle]

In addition to grad transfer, there may be some hidden gems in D2. DePaul found one in Max Struss.  Michigan found one in Duncan Robinson who transferred from D3 Williams. 

I realize these are long shots, but it is still worth scouting around . You never know what you may find.

They would still have to sit out a year.

[muguru]

Unless something has changed, he's already said he's going to Baylor.

http://www.wacotrib.com/sports/baylor/mens_basketball/yale-guard-makai-mason-transferring-to-baylor/article_a6e782c2-b566-5ca3-908e-3b40dc40ce6e.html

Missed that, thanks

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Kory Holden is leaving South Carolina. Played two years at Delaware and our up great numbers. Not sure what happened at SC. Not certain he’s going to graduate this spring or summer, but he’s spent four years at college so a potential option.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/kory-holden-1.html

Edit - Brew already had Holden on his list.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Took a look for some more guards. Here's some more eligible names from higher conferences. Hoping TAMU can take a look at their defensive numbers. Most may be unrealistic, but some intriguing options if any did decide to transfer.

• Marcquise Reed, Clemson: kenpom / ESPN A combo guard that can shoot, distribute, and rebound. Seems unlikely the leading scorer on a top-15 team will transfer again, however.
  
• Shelton Mitchell, Clemson: kenpom / ESPN The other half of Clemson's backcourt. More of a true point guard and has size (6'3"). More apt to pass than shoot.
  
• Alex Robinson, TCU: kenpom / ESPN Robinson isn't as efficient as you'd like, but he is definitely pass first. The other concern is TCU isn't a good defensive team.
  
• Tavarius Shine, Oklahoma State: kenpom / ESPN Great size at 6'6", but has never really been a true point guard. Some injury issues, but could be intriguing as a secondary ball-handler.
  
• Kory Holden, South Carolina: kenpom / ESPN Was great at Delaware, but hasn't been able to find minutes at USC. I'd guess if he transfers, it will be to a mid-major.
  
• James Palmer, Nebraska: kenpom / ESPN More of a combo 2/3, but has the ball in his hands a lot and is the best player on Ed Morrow's old team. Bit player at Miami who found his footing in the Big 10.
  
• Cane Broome, Cincinnati: kenpom / ESPN Broome transferred from Sacred Heart and seems unlikely to transfer, but is a great distributor playing for a great defensive team. Good shooter and distributor who is pass-first. There are numerous younger guards behind him and Cincy's only 2018 commit is a freshman PG.
  
• BJ Taylor, UCF: kenpom / ESPN Taylor missed much of this season but has averaged double-digit scoring every year while tallying 27 assists to just 12 turnovers in his 8 games since returning this year. Good size at 6'2". Not sure he'd want to leave his hometown team, but could be an interesting option if he wants to step it up a level.

Marcquise Reed: .855 pppa (51st percentile)
Shelton Mitchell: .792 pppa (70th percentile)
Alex Robinson: 1.00 pppa (16th percentile)
Tavarius Shine: .831 pppa (59th percentile)
Kory Holden: .735 pppa (83rd percentile)
James Palmer: .752 pppa (79th percentile)
Cane Broome: .727 pppa (84th percentile)
BJ Taylor: 1.051 pppa (10th percentile)

[brewcity77]

Thanks, TAMU. Will be interesting to see who's available in the next 6-8 weeks. Hope the staff is looking at how these guys play on both ends of the court.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Kory Holden is leaving South Carolina. Played two years at Delaware and our up great numbers. Not sure what happened at SC. Not certain he’s going to graduate this spring or summer, but he’s spent four years at college so a potential option.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/kory-holden-1.html

Edit - Brew already had Holden on his list.

My fear with Holden is that he simply isn't a high major player. I've noticed that PG grad transfers from mid majors seem to have a harder time adjusting than other positions. One of the top grad transfers last season was Jaaron Simmons from Ohio. He averaged 16 points a game and 6.5 assists, the season before he averaged 15.5 points and 7.9 assists. He was walking into a situation where the starting PG had graduated and the only other competition didn't look ready. He's now averaging 1.6 points, 1.4 rebounds with around 8 minutes a game.

[MU82]

Probably the stupidest question asked today, but what the hell ...

A player is a returning senior. Takes part in preseason conditioning, madness, practices, exhibition games and non-con games. But he is dissatisfied with his role, so after he graduates on Dec. 10, he decides to transfer.

Would he be eligible immediately for his new team as a grad transfer?

[brewcity77]

I don't believe players can play for two different teams in the same year, but Jay Bee would probably be better suited to answer that one.

[TedBaxter]

Holden had a knee injury during his redshirt year and missed 11 games this year because of a hamstring problem, so it may not be about his talent at all.  Even Frank Martin said today that the injuries really took a toll on Holden.

Talent wise Holden can play at MU.  Not sure if he'll be over the injuries or if his role at Marquette would be sufficient for him.  He did play for Baltimore Elite in the Nike EYBL, so Wojo may have some connections to follow up on.

[Herman Cain]

Probably the stupidest question asked today, but what the hell ...

A player is a returning senior. Takes part in preseason conditioning, madness, practices, exhibition games and non-con games. But he is dissatisfied with his role, so after he graduates on Dec. 10, he decides to transfer.

Would he be eligible immediately for his new team as a grad transfer?

In your case above, the player used up his season of eligibility.

[YoungMUFan4]

Two more names I'll throw out there.

Clayton Custer, Loyola Chicago--6'1 PG.  Was at Iowa State for a year before transferring.
1.443 PPP+Assists 98th percentile
1.131 PPP Offensive 96th percentile
.778 PPP Defensive 74th percentile

Lamonte Bearden, Western Kentucky--6'3 PG.  Played 2 years at Buffalo.  Went to Germantown HS.
1.192 PPP+Assists 78th percentile
.877 PPP Offense 48th percentile
.853 PPP Defense 52nd percentile

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Custer wouldn't be a bad option. Shoots nearly 50% from 3, A/TO ratio is a little over 2.

Don't know where that ranks in the grand scheme of things.

[wadesworld]

Bearden is a long and athletic local kid. If nothing better takes shape I’d certainly like to see the last scholarship go to him for one season and open back up.

[YoungMUFan4]

Couple more

Deandre Burnett--6'2 PG, Mississippi.  Was at Miami (FL) for two years..injured for the first season with a broken wrist.  Played the past two seasons at Ole Miss.
1.293 PPP+Assists 88th percentile
.985 PPP Offensive 75th percentile
.832 PPP Defensive 59th percentile


Tarin Smith--6'2 PG, Duquesne.  Began his career at Nebraska
1.184 PPP+Assists 69th percentile
.892 PPP Offensive 53rd percentile
.839 PPP Defensive 56th percentile


Pookie Powell--6'0 PG, La Salle.  Started at Memphis. Could complete the Traci Carter trade.
1.172  PPP+Assists 67th percentile
.880 PPP Offensive 49th percentile
.871 PPP Defensive 47th percentile

[jsglow]

It's certainly possible that the M2N injury situation could materially impact Wojo's thinking.  This could go from 'We'd like to sign a grad transfer' to 'We need to sign a grad transfer'.