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4everwarriors

Write on Winters, wrong on English, ai na?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Goose

English was Year later, I think. Winters was my neighbor growing up and loved talking and shooting hoops with him.

nyg

English arrived in 1972.

At the time, Frank McGuire had the NY Catholic League pipeline, along with St. Johns, from both NYC and Long Island.

Winters and Joyce were both from Archbishop Molloy and I believe Riker came from St. Dominics in Oster Bay. 

Some serious hoop players from the NY/LI area high school ranks during the 1970s..

djorling

I don't remember which home game it was, but at one point in the game, when the arena crowd was relatively quiet,  McGuire yelled "Get in the game Bob or sit on the bench".  Wasn't his nickname "The Evil Doctor Blackheart"?  Maybe that was someone else.  In the Hilltop for 1971, page 112, Jim Chones is quoted as saying "The first time I saw the Dude..with those burns, that stare and those muscles coming out of his T-shirt...I said, Oh my God!"

4everwarriors

Nah man c?mon. Evil wuz Pat Smith. #45 wuz Black Swan, ai na?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Goose

4ever

We have a Dr. Blackheart on here. Would think these guys would know the history.

Dawson Rental

Here's a thread topic; Who was the tougher dude between Lackey and Lucas?
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

4everwarriors

Any cat hoo can hold sum schmuck out da window of McCormick bye his ankles, gets my vote, ai na?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

oldwarrior81

#33
article from Milwaukee paper
https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=SXYfAAAAIBAJ&sjid=lCgEAAAAIBAJ&pg=1476%2C507498

the same day the Bucks snapped the Lakers win streak at 33.

oldwarrior81

#34
from the Scoop archives in 2011:
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=24008.25

I posted this in that topic from a Jim Chones interview:

Chones' recollection of the fight:

"For starters, the two coaches, Al and Frank McGuire, didn't like each other very much. You know what it is like when two Irish guys don't like each other, they don't hold back. As for the game, we didn't get a call for probably three quarters. They also had a 6-11 left hander who was just the enforcer in the ACC. I think his name was Riker or something. The entire South Carolina team just beat up other teams. Dean Smith even petitioned the league to put an end to it. So they had a huge team. They were very skilled too. There were cheap shots flying during the game like the kind that we would only see on the playground.

I will never forget it. Bob Lackey was on the free throw line and Riker took the ball and threw it at Lackey after he made his first free throw. Immediately after that, Lackey looked at Al and Al didn't move. He was just sitting on the bench with his legs crossed. We all knew what that meant. Lackey picked the ball up and drilled Riker in the face. All of a sudden, there were people all over the floor and the two teams were fighting.

In the middle of the fight, Danny Traylor looks at me and was probably thinking, He looks pretty skinny, I'll go after him. I actually got the guy pretty good. I popped him right in the chin actually. Soon after that, a security guard from the arena peeled me off of him. This guard opened his jacket and pulled out a gun on me and then, I knew the fight was over. But we whipped the (junk) out of them. The fans kept calling us racial names because we were mostly black and they didn't have any black players. That was the times, you know? Through all of this, Al was still sitting on the bench with his legs crossed. Al finally got up and took all of us off of the floor and into the locker room. They already had all of our things packed in our bags and instead of staying over night, they told us we were getting out of South Carolina as soon as we could. It was incredible

real chili 83


dgies9156

Quote from: 4everCrean on January 11, 2018, 08:11:52 PM
Here's a thread topic; Who was the tougher dude between Lackey and Lucas?

Lackey.


Not even close.

Lackey probably was my favorite Warrior of all time.


MU82

Quote from: Goose on January 11, 2018, 06:16:24 PM
Winters was my neighbor growing up and loved talking and shooting hoops with him.

Winters was on the Bucks during my time at Marquette. He kind of was a taller version of Rowsey - never met a shot he didn't like, absolutely no conscience.

He took more than 100 threes some years - seems quaint now, but that was a lot back then. I remember him pulling up for a 3 a few times on fastbreaks, which was hardly ever done then.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Goose

MU82

I forgot about Winters pulling up on a breakaway and taking a three. He definitely was a shooter. He would have looked awfully good in a Warrior uniform.

oldwarrior81

The McGuires babysat for Brian Winters (roughly same age as Allie) back when they were still in Rockaway.
I think Al was surprised(?) when Winters choose to go south rather than (as Winters believed) come to Marquette and sit behind Allie.

This also was the debut of the new blue jerseys with the horizontal side stripes


A few memories from a Carolina view:
https://www.postandcourier.com/sports/gamecocks-vs-marquette-ncaa-matchup-rekindles-memories-of-super-s/article_29c58084-09d8-11e7-bd48-f3c4af54c465.html

Newsdreams

Quote from: dgies9156 on January 11, 2018, 09:49:41 PM
Lackey.


Not even close.

Lackey probably was my favorite Warrior of all time.
Don't know, any one willing to take on Darryl Dawkins one on one is #1 one in my book AKA "The Enforcer"
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

Dr. Blackheart

The old Suburban League was a great pipeline to MU before it disbanded.  Lackey (Evanston), Jay (Waukegan), Doc (Proviso) and Marcus Washington (Lyons LaGrange). 

Well after the conference break up, Crean went hard after Shumpert (OP) and Lottich (New Trier), but I think Todd Townsend (New Trier...interesting story with Lottich) may have been the last player from those legacy schools at MUBB.  I could be wrong.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 12, 2018, 02:36:31 PM
The old Suburban League was a great pipeline to MU before it disbanded.  Lackey (Evanston), Jay (Waukegan), Doc (Proviso) and Marcus Washington (Lyons LaGrange). 

Well after the conference break up, Crean went hard after Shumpert (OP) and Lottich (New Trier), but I think Todd Townsend (New Trier...interesting story with Lottich) may have been the last player from those legacy schools at MUBB.  I could be wrong.

Todd Townsend going to New Trier may be one of the most surprising things I've heard in a while.

Jockey

Quote from: Goose on January 12, 2018, 05:47:29 AM
MU82

I forgot about Winters pulling up on a breakaway and taking a three. He definitely was a shooter. He would have looked awfully good in a Warrior uniform.

Classic form on his shot as well. Exactly how you would want to teach it.

DCHoopster


Lennys Tap

Quote from: dgies9156 on January 11, 2018, 09:49:41 PM
Lackey.


Not even close.

Lackey probably was my favorite Warrior of all time.

Agree on the not even close place.

But the toughest Warrior ever was Maurice Lucas, not Bob Lackey. In addition to being tougher, Mo was also a much better player.

dgies9156

Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 12, 2018, 03:54:37 PM
Agree on the not even close place.

But the toughest Warrior ever was Maurice Lucas, not Bob Lackey. In addition to being tougher, Mo was also a much better player.

Lucas may have been tougher as a pro. But bruise by bruise as a collegian, I?d put my money on Lackey. He was one very tough hombre.

If Lucas was as tough as Lackey in college, we would have won it all in 1974.

rocket surgeon

Quote from: Newsdreams on January 12, 2018, 01:45:56 PM
Don't know, any one willing to take on Darryl Dawkins one on one is #1 one in my book AKA "The Enforcer"

aka "CHOCOLATE THUNDER" eyn'er?
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

rocket surgeon

Quote from: DCHoopster on January 12, 2018, 03:45:49 PM
He was so much better than Allie.

a little bit different games-allie was a true point guard, brian was a shootahh
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

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