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Providence fans will complain (it looked to me like Rowsey rolled that ball for a double dribble) but that game was called waaay too tightly for a Big East game,  Anim being the most glaring victim.   Hard to watch with all the baby-fouls being called -- Sam, Heldt, Rowsey, GE, and on the Providence side too.   That's how 6th grade girls games should be called (or the Big 10), not Big East.   

#UnleashSean

Wasn't a double. Anyone who thinks it was never played basketball

WarriorInNYC

Agreed, I really try to stay away from hyperboles, but I think this was the touchiest game called I've ever seen, going both ways.  Fouls were called way, way too easily for absolutely nothing.  That offensive goal-tending call on Young was atrocious.

WarriorFan

The BEAST - as a basketball conference - needs to make a contract with the best refs in the country and get full time professional referees.  This will differentiate it from the crap that these old fat guys provide at present.  Cooley should be livid - not about the double dribble (it wasn't) but about the game.  Wojo should be even more animated.  Any game in which 3 guys foul out was a poorly officiated game.  I was watching Sacar closely because I like his defense.  He maybe had one foul.  For him to foul out after playing such good defense is an offense to basketball.
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HammerScreen

Third game in a row I've seen a clean block called for a foul. Greg got called tonight. Didn't think they called it even tonight on the blocking calls. Whatever, a win is a win

TAMU, Knower of Ball

It was balanced on both sides, but yeah, that was a rough game to watch. Not sure how to play defense if they are going to call fouls like that.
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Marquette4life

When that guy was backing down rowsey and he got called, that was ridiculous.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Reffing was terrible. I thought it was very one sided to PCs favor.
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Ellenson Guerrero

I really wish the Big East would emphasize allowing the boys play.  Its far less frustrating to have your team hurt by a no-call than screwed by endless ticky tack bs.  It would also set the league apart from the rest of college basketball.
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brewcity77

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 03, 2018, 09:10:13 PM
Reffing was terrible. I thought it was very one sided to PCs favor.

I think it benefitted them a bit more, but we had a lot of dumb reach-ins and unnecessary contact.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 03, 2018, 09:13:42 PM
I think it benefitted them a bit more, but we had a lot of dumb reach-ins and unnecessary contact.

Sure, but also plenty of easy no calls and the ticky tack garbage. Felt like we get far less of those calls.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
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MUEng92

So the very best we can hope for as Big East fans is that the refs are equally bad against both teams.  Nice

TallTitan34

I thought MU got a few calls at the end that really helped the comeback. But yeah, some odd calls both ways.

jonny09

Not a double dribble at all.   That game was officiated beyond poorly!  2 or 3 fouls on Anim were bush league.   Fouls on Rowsey and Hauser at the end of the game were atrocious.  Can't begin to tell you how frustrating that crap is to watch.   

CTWarrior

Quote from: jonny09 on January 03, 2018, 09:26:04 PM
Not a double dribble at all.   That game was officiated beyond poorly!  2 or 3 fouls on Anim were bush league.   Fouls on Rowsey and Hauser at the end of the game were atrocious.  Can't begin to tell you how frustrating that crap is to watch.

I thought it was a double dribble.  It looked to me like he flipped it in the air from one hand to the other without hitting the ground in between as he was re-establishing the dribble.  The replay was shown just once and quick but I thought when I saw it it could have been a double dribble.  I could be wrong.  Could have gone either way, but I would not have complained if they called it.

The complaining about the reffing is getting old.  We foul a lot, often stupidly, sliding with our hands raised, etc.  The reffing in college basketball in general is not too good, and if other teams adjust to it better than we do, you can't just constantly blame the refs.
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CTWarrior

Quote from: jonny09 on January 03, 2018, 09:26:04 PM
Not a double dribble at all.   That game was officiated beyond poorly!  2 or 3 fouls on Anim were bush league.   Fouls on Rowsey and Hauser at the end of the game were atrocious.  Can't begin to tell you how frustrating that crap is to watch.
I thought it was a double dribble.  It looked to me like he flipped it in the air from one hand to the other without hitting the ground in between as he was re-establishing the dribble.  The replay was shown just once and quick but I thought when I saw it it could have been a double dribble.  I could be wrong.  Could have gone either way, but I would not have complained if they called it.

The complaining about the reffing is getting old.  We foul a lot, often stupidly, sliding with our hands raised, etc.  The reffing in college basketball in general is not too good, and if other teams adjust to it better than we do, you can't just constantly blame the refs.
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We R Final Four

The no call DD was close. Bad replay angle. However, I'll defer to Rowsey. If the ball was dead.....he would have picked it up and passed the ball. It wasn't absolutely necessary for him to keep dribbling.........especially if he had lost his dribble.

Dr. Blackheart

Email Stu Jackson nicely.  He responds.  That said, the new ref coop is off to a bad start.

Vander Blue Man Group

I don't think it was a double dribble.

That being said, reffing at the college level is bad but tonight is was beyond atrocious and I think we got the short end of the stick.

The 4th foul on Rowsey, the late call on Sam called by a ref on the baseline 25 feet away instead of the ref right in front of the play, and most of the calls on Sacar were complete trash. And the amount of touch fouls were comical.

MU82

When I saw it live, I thought it was a double dribble. They only showed one replay, and even that was at full speed, so I don't really know. It wasn't called, so it's a non-issue.

I thought the game was poorly officiated, and I thought Marquette was on the wrong end of too many bad and/or ticky-tack calls. (I didn't see the first half. I turned the game on just in time to see Markus swish a 3 to start the second half.)

That being said, a good team has to play through bad officiating, especially on the road. I thought we persevered and showed a lot of mental toughness tonight.
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BrewCity83

Free Throws attempted:  41 to 16
Fouls called:  28 to 17

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GGGG

Quote from: BrewCity83 on January 04, 2018, 10:50:04 AM
Free Throws attempted:  41 to 16
Fouls called:  28 to 17


When one team attacks the basket and the other team shoots jumpers, you will always have that disparity regardless of the quality of the refs.

Markusquette

Quote from: Marquette4life on January 03, 2018, 09:02:00 PM
When that guy was backing down rowsey and he got called, that was ridiculous.

That's the one that really sticks out to me too.  Literally bowling him over as Andrew backs up and he gets called for a foul? Just downright terrible. Players on offense get way too much leeway in the post.

brewcity77

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 03, 2018, 09:17:10 PM
Sure, but also plenty of easy no calls and the ticky tack garbage. Felt like we get far less of those calls.

I don't disagree, but I don't think the refs were a deciding factor in this the way they were against Xavier. The disparity was bad, but most of those I was directing my "are you <bleeping> kidding me?!?" comments at our players and not say the refs.

Against Xavier, the refs were as much a factor as us missing good looks or failing to secure rebounds. Against PC, 95% of what happened to us was our own doing.

rocket surgeon

wasn't a double dribble-how many times do you see a dude walking the ball up the court, stop the dribble so he can scratch himself or make a play call or something and then just continue the dribble?  same thing here, except the ball was just closer to the floor.  it never stopped bouncing-the replay did clearly show that
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