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MU & Butler Project as 1st 2 Teams Out After Value Add Adjustment for Froling and All Other Injuries, Transfers worth 0.5 or more pts.

The following table seeds the NCAA March Madness Field based on each team's current rating at www.kenpom.com adjusted by the Value Add rating of each player who is returning or lost for the season.

The first number is the current KenPom Rating. If a player who helps or hurts a team by at least 0.50 points is listed in this blog, then that total is reflected in the second "change" number, and after those two numbers are added together they are multiplied by .70 to estimate how many points each team is better or worse than average. Villanova calculates as 21.46 points better than the average team, which would leave them with a 1-seed.

Marquette and Butler actually calculate as the first two teams out of the tournament with Froling projecting to help the team by 1.21 points to make MU 9.91 points better than the average team in the country.


TeamKenPomChangePts above aveConfSeed
Villanova31.0221.46BE1
Michigan St.28.6319.79B101
North Carolina22.225.6419.25ACC1
Virginia27.1518.76ACC1
Duke26.3918.22ACC2
Arizona21.434.6117.98P122
Purdue25.7117.75B102
Kansas24.8417.14B122
Texas A&M24.2516.73SEC3
West Virginia22.5615.54B123
Clemson19.233.1515.42ACC3
Wichita St.22.3815.42Amer3
Cincinnati22.315.36Amer4
Texas Tech22.2915.35B124
Gonzaga21.7114.95WCC4
Miami FL21.5214.81ACC4
Seton Hall20.021.4814.80BE5
Oklahoma21.1914.58B125
Kentucky21.1814.58SEC5
Xavier21.0814.51BE5
Florida St.18.22.1814.02ACC6
Saint Mary's17.42.1713.45WCC6
Baylor18.331.1013.35B126
Arizona St.19.2513.23P126
SMU19.1413.15Amer7
TCU19.1413.15B127
Notre Dame19.0813.11ACC7
Arkansas19.0613.09SEC7
Louisville16.821.9812.91ACC8
Florida16.911.6412.74SEC8
Texas17.31.1212.64B128
Tennessee1812.35SEC8
Nevada17.8312.23MWC9
Creighton17.6612.11BE9
USC16.280.9411.80P129
St. Bonaventure11.685.4711.76A109
St. John's13.763.3411.72BE10
Michigan17.0411.68B1010
Maryland16.9711.63B1010
Virginia Tech16.5111.31ACC10
Houston15.7210.75Amer11
Auburn15.0210.26SEC11
Penn St.14.7710.09B1012-Dayton
Alabama13.271.4010.02SEC12-Dayton
Minnesota14.619.98B1012-Dayton
Kansas St.14.579.95B1212-Dayton
Northern Iowa6.974.918.06MVC11
Middle Tennessee10.437.05CUSA11
Vermont9.076.10AE12
College of Charleston4.384.686.09CAA12
Northern Kentucky8.425.64Horz13
UT Arlington8.235.51SB13
Bucknell6.021.374.92Pat13
South Dakota7.354.90Sum13
Portland St.3.323.434.48BSky14
New Mexico St.6.674.42WAC14
East Tennessee St.6.544.33SC14
Ohio1.355.174.32MAC14
Belmont5.623.68OVC15
Stephen F. Austin4.252.73Slnd15
Iona4.142.65MAAC15
Florida Gulf Coast2.31.732.57ASun15
Princeton4.022.56Ivy16
UC Santa Barbara3.392.12BW16
St. Francis PA-1.423.611.28NEC16-Dayton
UNC Asheville2.171.27BSth16-Dayton
Texas Southern-3.84-2.94SWAC16-Dayton
Hampton-8.5-6.20MEAC16-Dayton
Butler14.549.93BE1st 4 out
Marquette13.31.219.91BE1st 4 out
Ohio St.14.369.80B101st 4 out
UCF8.325.579.48Amer1st 4 out
Missouri13.849.44SECNext 4 out
Oregon13.89.41P12Next 4 out
Rhode Island13.219.00A10Next 4 out
Oklahoma St.13.6-0.618.84B12Next 4 out
Syracuse12.898.77ACC3rd 4 out
Providence10.571.848.44BE3rd 4 out
San Diego St.12.138.24MWC3rd 4 out
Georgia10.71.428.23SEC3rd 4 out

Source: MU & Butler Project as 1st 2 Teams Out After Value Add Adjustment for Froling and All Other Injuries, Transfers worth 0.5 or more pts.

Dr. Blackheart

Only five Big East teams in at this time...that's a drop down from seven last year.  UGA out.  That UGA home loss could cost us. Lots of hoops to be played, obviously.

Wojo folding in different defenses lately. That side of the ball will determine MU's fate. Worst in the Big East in the OOC.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 23, 2017, 09:02:19 AM
Only five Big East teams in at this time...that's a drop down from seven last year.  UGA out.  That UGA home loss could cost us. Lots of hoops to be played, obviously.

Wojo folding in different defenses lately. That side of the ball will determine MU's fate. Worst in the Big East in the OOC.

Just to clarify, MU's defense is the worst in the big East during OOC, right?
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Dawson Rental

Why is Dayton mentioned after the seeding of the 12th and 16th seeded teams in the tournament?
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Dr. Blackheart


MU82

Crap. And I was looking forward to the season.

Won't even bother watching now, since we have no chance.
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MDMU04

Quote from: 4everCrean on December 23, 2017, 09:45:13 AM
Why is Dayton mentioned after the seeding of the 12th and 16th seeded teams in the tournament?

I'm guessing he's saying those teams would be in the first four play-in round in Dayton. That's the only thing I can think of.
"They call me eccentric. They used to call me nuts. I haven't changed." - Al McGuire

mugrad99

Is this before or after last night's games (Penn St losing to Rider and Alabama losing to Texas). Georgia also beat Temple

auburnmarquette

Before. It is based on the numbers through the current www.valueaddbasketball.,com page which in the bottom right lists the Thursday night games that were not yet included when it was last run - so none of the Friday night games but all but a few of Thursday night games - San Diego St win over Gonzaga was not included.
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auburnmarquette

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 23, 2017, 09:02:19 AM
Only five Big East teams in at this time...that's a drop down from seven last year.  UGA out.  That UGA home loss could cost us. Lots of hoops to be played, obviously.

Wojo folding in different defenses lately. That side of the ball will determine MU's fate. Worst in the Big East in the OOC.

Agreed, though our 3-point defense was one of the worst 10 in the country through early December and has improved dramatically from "terrible."
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auburnmarquette

Quote from: 4everCrean on December 23, 2017, 09:45:13 AM
Why is Dayton mentioned after the seeding of the 12th and 16th seeded teams in the tournament?

Just meant those would be the playing games in Dayton as the last 4 teams in and then the worst 4 of the automatic bids.
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auburnmarquette

Quote from: MDMU04 on December 23, 2017, 10:15:44 AM
I'm guessing he's saying those teams would be in the first four play-in round in Dayton. That's the only thing I can think of.

Thanks - sorry I just answered again before seeing you had already answered
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auburnmarquette

Quote from: MU82 on December 23, 2017, 09:54:07 AM
Crap. And I was looking forward to the season.

Won't even bother watching now, since we have no chance.

Yes! I wanted to free you up to do other things selection Sunday rather than watching all 4 brackets without much ever being called - and then having to hear the committee say they thought long and hard about Marquette and Butler :-)
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MU82

Quote from: auburnmarquette on December 23, 2017, 11:31:06 AM
Yes! I wanted to free you up to do other things selection Sunday rather than watching all 4 brackets without much ever being called - and then having to hear the committee say they thought long and hard about Marquette and Butler :-)

You are a very caring person. Thanks!

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auburnmarquette

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NickelDimer

Now that we've had a chance to get a good feel for this roster I feel very comfortable in saying not getting a tourney bid this year with this roster would definitely be underachieving.
No Finish Line

MU82

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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

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BM1090

Quote from: NickelDimer on December 24, 2017, 08:31:17 AM
Now that we've had a chance to get a good feel for this roster I feel very comfortable in saying not getting a tourney bid this year with this roster would definitely be underachieving.

I don't really understand this. At the start of the year with this roster not many would have said that. We lost a starter due to transfer and now if we don't get a bid it would be underachieving?

cheese ball chaser

Quote from: NickelDimer on December 24, 2017, 08:31:17 AM
Now that we've had a chance to get a good feel for this roster I feel very comfortable in saying not getting a tourney bid this year with this roster would definitely be underachieving.

I would've agreed before Cheatham transferred.

Loose Cannon

Quote from: MUeagle1090 on December 24, 2017, 10:57:53 PM
I don't really understand this. At the start of the year with this roster not many would have said that. We lost a starter due to transfer and now if we don't get a bid it would be underachieving?

I Concur.  At the beginning of the season many posters thought it would be a step back season, and even Kenpom had us as 18-16 wins.

Now that the new faces (and Sacar) are developing, that improvement rate may not be sustainable in playing the BEast schedule.  I think underachieving is an unfair statement which diminishes the progress made by these guys.  Its as unfair as questioning why us fans did not seeing this coming.

But the bottom line is we're going Dancing and that the name of that Tune.
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