Millennials are unnatural carnal knowledgeed

[Tugg Speedman]

The fact that you aren't lobbying to ban Herman, who brought politics into this topic in the first place, shows your bias.

Again he brought opinions you do not disagree with, not politics.  I do not see him insulting anyone.  And in fact, when Jockey insulted him (most of his posts are insults, it reflects poorly on the mods that he is still here), Cain calmly responded with facts and reason.  Sorry, you don't like what he says, but he is not wrong.  Opinions cannot be wrong.

Anytime you insult, it is a version of Godwin's Law, it means you lost the argument.  You seem to lose a lot around here.

[Tugg Speedman]

I didn't bring politics into this topic, but if they are going to be brought up, I am going to be on record.

Your opinion is stupid, selfish and destructive to society.  And I'm being generous.

Insult, insult, insult ... that's all you have when people disagree with you.

[4everwarriors]

Score one for Yukie man, ai na?

[4everwarriors]

Wee gotta shut dem pinko commies up, hey?

[GGGG]

Again he brought opinions you do not disagree with, not politics.  I do not see him insulting anyone.  And in fact, when Jockey insulted him (most of his posts are insults, it reflects poorly on the mods that he is still here), Cain calmly responded with facts and reason.  Sorry, you don't like what he says, but he is not wrong.  Opinions cannot be wrong.

Anytime you insult, it is a version of Godwin's Law, it means you lost the argument.  You seem to lose a lot around here.

I'm hardly losing it.  Your opinion is indeed wrong and based on faulty logic.

In fact, I think most right wing philosophy is causing the destruction of the American society.  People blame millennials?  Hardly.  It is the libertarian, Ayn Randesque bullsh*t that is the major problem in society. 

[4everwarriors]

Hoo new, hey?

[real chili 83]

I'm hardly losing it.  Your opinion is indeed wrong and based on faulty logic.

In fact, I think most right wing philosophy is causing the destruction of the American society.  People blame millennials?  Hardly.  It is the libertarian, Ayn Randesque bullsh*t that is the major problem in society.

Plenty of issues on both sides of the aisle.

Wocky and Topper on vacation, eh?

[Tugg Speedman]

I'm hardly losing it.  Your opinion is indeed wrong and based on faulty logic.

In fact, I think most right wing philosophy is causing the destruction of the American society.  People blame millennials?  Hardly.  It is the libertarian, Ayn Randesque bullsh*t that is the major problem in society.

The fact that you are socialist is not surprising, been very apparent in your posts.

Why don't you define  ...

   "right wing philosophy"
   "libertarian"
    "Ayn Randesque bullsh*t"

And given those definitions, why don't you explain how they are causing "destruction of the American society."

Hint ... explain it not insult your way through a post.

[GGGG]

The fact that you are socialist is not surprising, been very apparent in your posts.

Why don't you define  ...

   "right wing philosophy"
   "libertarian"
    "Ayn Randesque bullsh*t"

And given those definitions, why don't you explain how they are causing "destruction of the American society."

Hint ... explain it not insult your way through a post.

LOL, define it yourself.  I don't owe you anything.

And I most definitely am NOT a socialist.  Labels are for the weak-minded.

[4everwarriors]

Holy chit man. Wee got us a hairy wet one, ai na?

[dgies9156]

Maybe he lives in Park Ridge Illinois?

The average salary for the Maine Township (Park Ridge) school district is $111,103/yr
https://rebootillinois.com/2017/01/12/illinois-school-districts-average-teacher-salaries-2016/

And of the 482 teachers employed by Illinois High School District 207 (47%) make more than $125,000/yr.

https://www.maine207.org/UserFiles/Servers/Server_743341/File/Community/Public_Act_97-0256_Administrator_and_Teacher_Salary_and_Benefits_Report_1617.pdf

Unless you think Park Ridge is a foreign country? 

How much do you understand about (grossly overpaid) teacher salaries?

Or in Libertyville, where it is $101,000. That's common throughout Chicago's North Shore.

And, they retire at 55 if they have 30 years of service.

I'm all for paying teachers well, especially if their performance justifies it. But the early retirement of quality teachers is a joke and the reason why Illinois has a $250 billion public employee  pension shortfall.

[Tugg Speedman]

LOL, define it yourself.  I don't owe you anything.

And I most definitely am NOT a socialist.  Labels are for the weak-minded.

Had to end the post with an insult ... just cannot help yourself, can you.

Ok, you don't like labels, they are for the weak-minded."  Then why do you use them so much?

   "selfish morons"
   "right wing philosophy"
   "libertarian"
    "Ayn Randesque bullsh*t"

You just want to scream at me until I go away.

[Tugg Speedman]

Or in Libertyville, where it is $101,000. That's common throughout Chicago's North Shore.

And, they retire at 55 if they have 30 years of service.

I'm all for paying teachers well, especially if their performance justifies it. But the early retirement of quality teachers is a joke and the reason why Illinois has a $250 billion public employee  pension shortfall.

I'll make the teacher pay thing really simple ...

When Jack Welch ran GE, they used employee evaluations.  And, each year, the bottom 10% were fired and a new 10% was brought in.  That is how he earned his nickname "Neutron Jack."

So, pay the Park Ridge/Libertyville teachers anything you want.  Pay 47% above $125k/yr.  BUT ... put together an object teacher evaluation and you have to let go of the bottom 10% every year.  That is 48 of the 482 Park Ridge teachers have to be fired every year.  You can bring in 48 new teachers, but the bottom 10% has to go. 

In the real world, if you cannot stay in the top 90%, you're gone.  If 90% of the class has higher test scores than you, you fail.  So this hardly an unrealistic demand.  It is the demand that everyone else adheres too.

The problem is not they are overpaid, a good teacher is worth $125k/yr.  The problem is you can never fire them and the highest pay goes to seniority, not merit.  The good teacher is not the highest paid, the oldest is.  This is not close to being the same thing.

That is why the system is hopelessly broken and until it is fixed, teachers are grossly overpaid.

[GGGG]

Had to end the post with an insult ... just cannot help yourself, can you.

Ok, you don't like labels, they are for the weak-minded."  Then why do you use them so much?

   "selfish morons"
   "right wing philosophy"
   "libertarian"
    "Ayn Randesque bullsh*t"

You just want to scream at me until I go away.

Mine are accurate. Yours are not.

[GGGG]

I'll make the teacher pay thing really simple ...

When Jack Welch ran GE, they used employee evaluations.  And, each year, the bottom 10% were fired and a new 10% was brought in.  That is how he earned his nickname "Neutron Jack."

So, pay the Park Ridge/Libertyville teachers anything you want.  Pay 47% above $125k/yr.  BUT ... put together an object teacher evaluation and you have to let go of the bottom 10% every year.  That is 48 of the 482 Park Ridge teachers have to be fired every year.  You can bring in 48 new teachers, but the bottom 10% has to go. 

In the real world, if you cannot stay in the top 90%, you're gone.  If 90% of the class has higher test scores than you, you fail.  So this hardly an unrealistic demand.  It is the demand that everyone else adheres too.

The problem is not they are overpaid, a good teacher is worth $125k/yr.  The problem is you can never fire them and the highest pay goes to seniority, not merit.  The good teacher is not the highest paid, the oldest is.  This is not close to being the same thing.

That is why the system is hopelessly broken and until it is fixed, teachers are grossly overpaid.

Jack Welch is the patron saint of corporate bullsh*t, which is anti-American, anti-Christian and immoral.

Keep felating him. It's what you do best.

[HansMoleman]

Mine are accurate. Yours are not.

Well, he got you there Yukon.  You definitely lost this debate.

[GGGG]

Well, he got you there Yukon.  You definitely lost this debate.

You think I'm debating?  Lol.

[Tugg Speedman]

Mine are accurate. Yours are not.

Again with the "opinion is wrong."

At least you did insult... progress

Jack Welch is the patron saint of corporate bullsh*t, which is anti-American, anti-Christian and immoral.

Keep felating him. It's what you do best.

And the insult free posts lasted one ... and you're back to it.

You're diverting from the issue of getting rid of bad teachers.  How would you do it?

[GGGG]

Fire them.

And you'd think you'd realize by now that I don't care if you think I'm insulting you. I'm not politely debating. I am bluntly asserting the truth.

[GGGG]

"No one can receive anything except what is given him from heaven."

It would be best if we could remember that at this time of year. Especially when speaking with the Pharisees among us.

[Lennys Tap]

LOL, define it yourself.  I don't owe you anything.

  Labels are for the weak-minded.

All you've done in this entire thread is insult and label. By your own definition  you are weak-minded.