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Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: TallTitan34 on September 07, 2018, 04:36:40 PM
If he misses next season that doesn't count for service time right?  If he's going to have it now might actually be the ideal time before their contending window opens.

What is the rule behind that?  Why wouldn't it count as service time?  Not enough major league time yet?

TallTitan34

Uncertain. I always thought once you were up the clock started ticking.  But Bryon Buxton has been up and the Twins keeping him in AAA now to save service time. Granted he was sent back down and not hurt on a Major League roster.

Dish

Quote from: TallTitan34 on September 07, 2018, 04:36:40 PM
If he misses next season that doesn't count for service time right?  If he's going to have it now might actually be the ideal time before their contending window opens.

I'm curious what this does to their approach this offseason. I wonder now if they pickup Shields option just to have someone eat up innings.

I know the rain messed with almost all his starts, but it's been exciting and must watch when he's been on the mound. Really since Kerry Wood was a rookie, haven't had a starter with that kind of buzz in town. Prior had it, but I always thought Wood's starts were more must see tv.

Dish

#3078
No easy way to answer it, but given the service time (only 14 innings), did the Sox error in calling him up this year?

No way to know if he was a ticking time bomb or not. He would have gotten a handful of more starts with Charlotte this year. In person against the Twins in his debut, I could tell he was overthrowing (nerves/adrenaline). In his four starts, his avg velocity steadily declined from 97 to just 93.5 when Detroit beat him up the other night, so something was clearly happening physically. Would it have happened at Charlotte? Would it have happened if say they called him up in May '19? Tough to say.

Vander Blue Man Group

That's the question. He was in the majors when the injury occurred, even though it was only for a couple of weeks.

Schwarber was obviously up for longer in 2015 and then you lost a year of service time with his injury in 2016.

So I don't know if basically you lose a year because you were already promoted or if you have to reach some type of threshold.

I assume he loses a year but could easily be wrong.

TallTitan34

Jamie Garcia will start for the Cubs in Game 1 tomorrow. Cole Hamels in Game 2.

TallTitan34

The Cubs and Nats had an hour rain delay before finally starting and getting one inning in before another three hour delay. Strangely enough it stopped raining two and a half hours into the three hour delay when MLB eventually postponed it. (MLB has control since it's the Cubs final trip to Washington.)

Unfortunately the Cubs waste a Jon Lester start with the postponement as he pitched a single inning.

But the real kick in the ass is for fans who had tickets to tonight's game. They aren't doing a split double header tomorrow so you have to have tickets to the regularly scheduled Saturday game to see the make up game. Fans with tickets to the postponed game have to enhange it for a future 2018 game.

So MLB makes these people wait around for three hours until it stops raining, postpones the game, then they can't even see the makeup game.

Insanity for those fans.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: TallTitan34 on September 08, 2018, 12:20:28 AM
The Cubs and Nats had an hour rain delay before finally starting and getting one inning in before another three hour delay. Strangely enough it stopped raining two and a half hours into the three hour delay when MLB eventually postponed it. (MLB has control since it's the Cubs final trip to Washington.)

Unfortunately the Cubs waste a Jon Lester start with the postponement as he pitched a single inning.

But the real kick in the ass is for fans who had tickets to tonight's game. They aren't doing a split double header tomorrow so you have to have tickets to the regularly scheduled Saturday game to see the make up game. Fans with tickets to the postponed game have to enhange it for a future 2018 game.

So MLB makes these people wait around for three hours until it stops raining, postpones the game, then they can't even see the makeup game.

Insanity for those fans.

I was at the game tonight. We stayed until it was called. Luckily we have tickets for tomorrow night as well so we're covered in regards to the games. 

However the way they handled concessions, announcements, etc throughout the delay was so egregiously awful that I don't even know how to describe it. By far the worst fan experience I've ever had at a baseball game.

It was my first time at Nats park and if I didn't have a friend that lived nearby I would never even consider coming again based on this experience.

wadesworld

Quote from: TallTitan34 on September 08, 2018, 12:20:28 AM
The Cubs and Nats had an hour rain delay before finally starting and getting one inning in before another three hour delay. Strangely enough it stopped raining two and a half hours into the three hour delay when MLB eventually postponed it. (MLB has control since it's the Cubs final trip to Washington.)

Unfortunately the Cubs waste a Jon Lester start with the postponement as he pitched a single inning.

But the real kick in the ass is for fans who had tickets to tonight's game. They aren't doing a split double header tomorrow so you have to have tickets to the regularly scheduled Saturday game to see the make up game. Fans with tickets to the postponed game have to enhange it for a future 2018 game.

So MLB makes these people wait around for three hours until it stops raining, postpones the game, then they can't even see the makeup game.

Insanity for those fans.

Sad.

TallTitan34

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on September 08, 2018, 12:36:55 AM
However the way they handled concessions

Just curious, what do you mean by the way they handled concessions?

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: TallTitan34 on September 08, 2018, 07:51:04 AM
Just curious, what do you mean by the way they handled concessions?

We were in the 200 level. I'm in from Chicago so we were going to stay til they played or called the game. By about 9:45 eastern they started closing concessions, not selling alcohol, etc. No announcements or any info. The employees were not helpful.

We had to go down to the main concourse to find anything to eat and drink and even then a lot was closed down. Plus, they are supposed to sell beer until 10:30. Guest services was also shut down.

If you're waiting out a delay for a couple of hours it shouldn't be that difficult to get something to eat and drink at 10 PM.

TallTitan34

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on September 08, 2018, 09:04:00 AM
We were in the 200 level. I'm in from Chicago so we were going to stay til they played or called the game. By about 9:45 eastern they started closing concessions, not selling alcohol, etc. No announcements or any info. The employees were not helpful.

We had to go down to the main concourse to find anything to eat and drink and even then a lot was closed down. Plus, they are supposed to sell beer until 10:30. Guest services was also shut down.

If you're waiting out a delay for a couple of hours it shouldn't be that difficult to get something to eat and drink at 10 PM.

Oh wow. You'd think they'd leave that open to make concession money.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: TallTitan34 on September 08, 2018, 09:05:14 AM
Oh wow. You'd think they'd leave that open to make concession money.

One would think. A lot of those employees couldn't get out of there fast enough. At least make an announcement that only concessions on the main concourse will remain open or something like that.

TallTitan34

With the weather delay to start today's game, the Cubs and Nats are going to play three games in under 24 hours.

TallTitan34

Jorge Lopez (guy Brewers gave up for Moose) has a perfect game in the ninth inning for the Royals.

TallTitan34


TallTitan34

Cubs/Nats game 1 delayed an hour by rain. Game 2 delayed 15 minutes because they somehow couldn't fit a Jayson Werth ceremony in between the two games.  Obviously there is now a downpour in the 8th inning of game 2 and yet another rain delay.

Brewers, here's your shot. The Cubs will be coming in to the series having played three games in 24 hours and their bullpen is shot.

wadesworld

Quote from: TallTitan34 on September 08, 2018, 11:16:24 PM
Cubs/Nats game 1 delayed an hour by rain. Game 2 delayed 15 minutes because they somehow couldn't fit a Jayson Werth ceremony in between the two games.  Obviously there is now a downpour in the 8th inning of game 2 and yet another rain delay.

Brewers, here's your shot. The Cubs will be coming in to the series having played three games in 24 hours and their bullpen is shot.

Sad.

Anti-Dentite

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on September 07, 2018, 04:37:19 PM
Cubs are 2-0 in their last two.
Cubs 0-2 yesterday, enjoying your weekend?
You know the difference between a dentist and a sadist, don't you? Newer magazines.



Anti-Dentite

You know the difference between a dentist and a sadist, don't you? Newer magazines.

TallTitan34

Quote from: mannionsworld on September 09, 2018, 08:53:34 AM
Oh the irony.

Sad.

How is it ironic?  If they didn't start the Friday game like the Cubs did last year, everything wouldn't be messed up.

Also I'm guessing Cubs fans will let it go in a day or two unlike you who is still complaining about a game you won a year and a half later.

4everwarriors

Dey are all thieves, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

TallTitan34

Unrelated to the weather, the Cubs bullpen is starting to struggle due to its over use and cost them game two yesterday and the first game of the Brewers series last week.  It's going to be a major issue the rest of the way.

This shouldn't be confused with the Brewer bullpen who is fresh and only struggles because Counsell doesn't know how to use them.

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