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Quote from: Sultan of Slap O' Fivin' on November 27, 2017, 12:54:26 PM

Do you know this?  Or is this a guess?

Not a guess.

MUBurrow

I'm not any more or less bothered by the transfers because they're mid-year.  If anything it seems like Wojo is pretty straight up with guys in November/December, and gives them the chance to do what's best for the eligibility/college experience they have left. 

MuMark

Quote from: NotAnAlum on November 27, 2017, 02:39:22 PM
Maybe its non-basketball But Wojo has now had several of these early season transfers and I can't help but he has got to have a role in it continuing to happen.  Similar to Traci last year.  While it was true that there were guys emerging that would have pushed him down the depth chart (Markus  and Rowsey) Traci still could have been valuable last year.  It almost seems like Wojo has 2 views on his players.  A. You are good, getting better and you're valuable or B. You're not getting better, we have someone else now who is, Good Bye.  A team needs 4 year seniors even if by then they are role players.  I remember Chapman was a limited role player by the time he was a senior but he stayed on the roster and played a valuable role.  Guys should be encouraged to stay with the team at least through the current basketball season.
I have no inside information.  But midseason departures for reasons other than discipline or grades are not the norm at most programs.  There certainly seems to be a trend and this time it can't be blamed on "we he wasn't a guy Wojo recruited, you have to expect that".

Traci was encouraged to stay.......I have little doubt that Haney was as well.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on November 27, 2017, 02:55:55 PM
Oddly, HC is the 4th midseason transfer from the Big East this season. There have only been 14 announced so far. 4/14 from one conference is surprising.

Who are the other 3? 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

21rooster

Quote from: dw3dw3dw3 on November 27, 2017, 02:38:47 PM
Already followed a coach from UGA. That was quick.

https://twitter.com/CoachJonas

Looks like a coach he was familiar with during recruiting. http://www.givengobasketball.com/narrowing-down-lists

Well, this would explain the timing.  If he's joining Georgia, he probably wouldn't want to suit up against them this Saturday. 

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Wojos Blueprint on November 27, 2017, 02:54:41 PM
Two years with 1 senior, HC was so good as a frosh, I loved his game but I felt he was a little
homesick and is a Florida kid, so will we ever know why he left?

Homesick as a junior in freakin' college? Please.

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: 21rooster on November 27, 2017, 03:07:08 PM
Well, this would explain the timing.  If he's joining Georgia, he probably wouldn't want to suit up against them this Saturday.

Why not?

Pakuni

Quote from: NotAnAlum on November 27, 2017, 02:39:22 PM
I have no inside information.  But midseason departures for reasons other than discipline or grades are not the norm at most programs. 

Not sure that's really the case.
Last year, there were 67 mid-season transfers from at least 50 programs, including the likes of Wichita State, Georgetown, Arizona State, Kansas, Miami and Kansas State, among others.
The year before saw 95 midseason transfers, from schools including Duke, Kansas, Arizona, Stanford and Louisville.

I don't think it's a good thing to see it happen as frequently as it has, but I'm not especially troubled either. It happens.

21rooster

Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on November 27, 2017, 03:19:37 PM
Why not?

If you're planning on being part of Georgia's team in a few weeks, do you really want to be part of an effort to worsen their record?  Either Cheatham would become partly responsible for one of his future team's losses, or he wouldn't have his heart in the game.  I don't see Cheatham as the type of kid that would do that to his current team or his future team.  If Georgia is the destination, the timing is logical.   

GGGG

Or Haanif had been discussing a release with Wojo, and when he found out Georgia was an option, Wojo said he had to leave immediately.

T-Bone

Now I need to change my avatar.  B.S.

Cheeto will be missed.  He has played some great D, and prompted the run to secure the LSU win (short memories) or at least turn the momentum back in our favor. 

Best of luck young man!
I'm like a turtle, sometimes I get run over by a semi.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: MuMark on November 27, 2017, 03:03:15 PM
Traci was encouraged to stay.......I have little doubt that Haney was as well.

I'm sure they both were "encouraged" to stay - but players have inflated opinions of what their roles should be. 

T-Bone

Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 27, 2017, 03:18:53 PM
Homesick as a junior in freakin' college? Please.
Life at home changes.  Could very well be the reason.  (Ordinarily, I generally agree.  But not having the facts of what's going on at home, can't make that judgement)
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Quote from: real chili 83 on November 27, 2017, 03:01:14 PM
Not a guess.
Well that is a surprise since he was injured and was probably a bit behind and he was top 4 in minutes.
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Quote from: 21rooster on November 27, 2017, 03:23:20 PM
If you're planning on being part of Georgia's team in a few weeks, do you really want to be part of an effort to worsen their record?  Either Cheatham would become partly responsible for one of his future team's losses, or he wouldn't have his heart in the game.  I don't see Cheatham as the type of kid that would do that to his current team or his future team.  If Georgia is the destination, the timing is logical.

Wouldn't a team actively recruiting a guy on another roster (ie: Georgia recruiting Haani prior to release) be a serious recruiting infraction / tampering?
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

MuMark

Just because he is following a Georgia coach doesn't mean he will end up there.

We have had some transfer candidates who have followed Stan or Nelson who didn't end up here.

I'm sure HC will explore his options and make the best decision for himself and his family.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: The Lens on November 27, 2017, 02:30:33 PM
With nothing to go on but my gut, I think Haanif wanted to be the man.  He was given a lot of opportunity as a freshman (remember him as a PG over Traci), was thought to take over as a soph, came back and worked this summer to be the man as a junior and realized out in Hawaii, that he was not nor will he ever be the man at Marquette.
I have the same feeling.  Between Wojo's wording of looking elsewhere to play and Haani's announcement of open a new chapter, I double down on my statement that this is on-court related.

There were a couple of times during the tournament I saw him open on the 3-point line waiving for the ball and it never came.  Purely anecdotal I know, but I believe he is looking for a bigger role.

Unfortunate no matter the reason, he was far and away my favorite player his freshman year.
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jsglow

Quote from: Sultan of Slap O' Fivin' on November 27, 2017, 03:27:57 PM
Or Haanif had been discussing a release with Wojo, and when he found out Georgia was an option, Wojo said he had to leave immediately.

Not to rumor monger but that would make sense if you're in Wojo's seat.

Dish

I really thought after his frosh year, Cheatham was really going to be a stud. Sucks to see him go, hope he's successful where ever he ends up. Seems like a good young man.

bilsu

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on November 27, 2017, 01:02:03 PM
0 surprise, I just expected it after the season.  Sacar and elliot are both better.  Hawaii only confirmed it.
I thought he would transfer after last season. I got butchered here for predicting that. I did think he was going to leave after this season, because someone was going if we landed Grimes. For some reason Haanif really did not seem to be happy. It simply may of been him seeing himself as not playing up to his expectations. It surprises me when anyone transfers during the season. As far as playing time I could see where his time was going to take a big hit when Froling becomes eligible as Froling might start at power forward and Sam would then move to small forward.

bilsu

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on November 27, 2017, 01:10:57 PM
Remove ekes redshirt for the 5? Games until Froling becomes eligible ? 

Marcus92

In 2011, Jeff Goodman's transfer list included 291 players. In 2015, the number was 850. That's an average of more than two transfers for every program in NCAA Division I college basketball.

This is not unique to Marquette, or to Wojo, or to the Big East. The sky is not falling. The sport is simply changing to reflect a changing landscape. Always has, always will.

https://www.postandcourier.com/sports/ncaa-hoops-transfer-trend-worries-coaches/article_575f9880-fc5e-594e-8b37-2c475f5cd792.html
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Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: MUfan12 on November 27, 2017, 02:07:00 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BcAuT_oF45i/?hl=en

If anyone here is on Instagram, scroll down in the comments and tell kevinking9172 that he's an idiot. 

Or, if kevinking9172 happens to visit this site, you're an idiot. 

1SE

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on November 27, 2017, 02:55:55 PM
I don't agree with everything here but I'll admit that I am concerned about this trend. 5 midseason transfers in 4 years is way above the norm. I wouldn't be surprised to learn if we led D1 with that number. It's hard to build a successful program with that kind of turnover.

Oddly, HC is the 4th midseason transfer from the Big East this season. There have only been 14 announced so far. 4/14 from one conference is surprising.

If it's truly a pressing family issue then all the best, bball is just a game, family is what matters.

But if this is an on-court issue, I sure hope having a short bench doesn't come back to bite us for VT, Georgia or UW. Those are likely make or break games for our tourney hopes. If Wojo couldn't convince him to stick around for that stretch - when he wouldn't be burning any more eligibility - you've got to be a bit concerned. 
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Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on November 27, 2017, 04:02:16 PM
If anyone here is on Instagram, scroll down in the comments and tell kevinking9172 that he's an idiot. 

Or, if kevinking9172 happens to visit this site, you're an idiot.

You are focusing on the wrong comments and users in the IG comments for insight.....

Haanif has aspirations to play after college. Thought opportunities exist elsewhere better than Marquette to make that happen. Thought he wasn't highlighted enough.

Best of luck to Haanif. 
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