3 UCLA Players arrested in China

[jsglow]

Unless it's midterms or finals do you ever really need to go to class? I once literally forgot i was taking a class and aced the final to get a C, just saying 20 days that are standard classes won't kill them.

The paying for the hotel I️ completely agree with unless lavars footing the bill for his son to stay in a two bedroom with a pullout bed?

What was your major?  In many MU classes attendance is mandatory and you will be dropped for excessive absences without prior notice.  For a class that meets twice per week, the allowed cap is four.  The majority of professors do take attendance and adhere to that standard, especially as an underclassman.  So Marquette generally does require one to go to class.

[Hards Alumni]

What was your major?  In many MU classes attendance is mandatory and you will be dropped for excessive absences without prior notice.  For a class that meets twice per week, the allowed cap is four.  The majority of professors do take attendance and adhere to that standard, especially as an underclassman.  So Marquette generally does require one to go to class.

Totally depends on the class.  I attended exactly 3 History of Jazz classes.  First day, Midterm, Final.

[jsglow]

Totally depends on the class.  I attended exactly 3 History of Jazz classes.  First day, Midterm, Final.

There are examples, of course.  Do you ever look back and ask if you cheated yourself out of anything?  Not any particular class mind you, but rather the once in a lifetime opportunity?

[Bocephys]

What was your major?  In many MU classes attendance is mandatory and you will be dropped for excessive absences without prior notice.  For a class that meets twice per week, the allowed cap is four.  The majority of professors do take attendance and adhere to that standard, especially as an underclassman.  So Marquette generally does require one to go to class.

Engineering major, I had a Discrete Math (or some other type of post-calculus math) class where your final would account for 100% of your grade if it was half a letter grade higher than the normal grading rubric of homework, quizzes, midterm, and final.  I didn't go to a class all semester between syllabus day and the final.

Like you say, Marquette obviously requires people to go to class, but it's dependent on the professor to enforce.

[jsglow]

Interesting discussion about different approaches and trying not to be judgmental.  Apart from actual illness, I missed exactly one class in my 4 years and I told my professor about it beforehand.

I remember what he said. 'Glow, you're going to learn a lot more today doing what you're doing'.

Load in for that night's Romantics concert started at 7 am.

[Bocephys]

Interesting discussion about different approaches and trying not to be judgmental.  Apart from actual illness, I missed exactly one class in my 4 years and I told my professor about it beforehand.

I remember what he said. 'Glow, you're going to learn a lot more today doing what you're doing'.

Load in for that night's Romantics concert started at 7 am.

Yep, many paths to a degree.  My wife was more aligned with you, I think she still resents me a little for not adopting her approach.

[jsglow]

Yep, many paths to a degree.  My wife was more aligned with you, I think she still resents me a little for not adopting her approach.

Reason this is top of mind for me is there was just a discussion on a FB page where a kid got tossed for excessive absences.  I regularly saw both my kids' syllabus' and they almost always had very strict attendance requirements.  Both cut class rarely (like to get in line for Renee Row) but it was never a habit.  I know in Nursing it's a huge no-no, probably for good reason.

And may I ask what year you graduated?  MU is a different (and far more rigorous) place then when I was there in the early '80s.  Dare I say that many guy's study habits in that era wouldn't cut it today.

[Hards Alumni]

There are examples, of course.  Do you ever look back and ask if you cheated yourself out of anything?  Not any particular class mind you, but rather the once in a lifetime opportunity?

I rarely missed class except this one.  I don't think I missed much since the lectures were totally mailed in.  I got the music and worksheets for the class and did it on my own.  I was a biomedical science major so it wasn't like I could afford to miss much else.

[jsglow]

I rarely missed class except this one. I don't think I missed much since the lectures were totally mailed in. I got the music and worksheets for the class and did it on my own.  I was a biomedical science major so it wasn't like I could afford to miss much else.

Yeah, that's pure BS and my kids would complain about that sometimes.  At $50k a year I expect professors to take educating their students seriously.

[Bocephys]

Reason this is top of mind for me is there was just a discussion on a FB page where a kid got tossed for excessive absences.  I regularly saw both my kids' syllabus' and they almost always had very strict attendance requirements.  Both cut class rarely (like to get in line for Renee Row) but it was never a habit.  I know in Nursing it's a huge no-no, probably for good reason.

And may I ask what year you graduated?  MU is a different (and far more rigorous) place then when I was there in the early '80s.  Dare I say that many guy's study habits in that era wouldn't cut it today.

Gotta pick your spots.  The letter of the law can be enforced at any time and you can't really complain about the outcome.

[jsglow]

Gotta pick your spots.  The letter of the law can be enforced at any time and you can't really complain about the outcome.

As is often the case, the kid 'misinformed' her mom about the circumstances so some comments (not the mom's) about 'how unfair and unjust' this particular professor was turned out to be misplaced when the true situation was understood.

[CTWarrior]

Yep, many paths to a degree.  My wife was more aligned with you, I think she still resents me a little for not adopting her approach.

For me, depended on the class.  We had a Metallurgy professor who just went over the chapters assigned in the last class so I only went when I had questions about the chapter or there was a quiz or test, and of course to the labs.

I probably went to a little more than 90% of my classes over my four years, and generally only skipped the ones I didn't think I would get anything out of.

Different in the late 70s early 80s than now.  No internet and other study aids.  You basically had your text books and class.  I imagine class is much less mandatory these days.

[jsglow]

For me, depended on the class.  We had a Metallurgy professor who just went over the chapters assigned in the last class so I only went when I had questions about the chapter or there was a quiz or test, and of course to the labs.

I probably went to a little more than 90% of my classes over my four years, and generally only skipped the ones I didn't think I would get anything out of.

Different in the late 70s early 80s than now.  No internet and other study aids.  You basically had your text books and class.  I imagine class is much less mandatory these days.

I think the reality is exactly the opposite.  If you haven't touched campus in the last couple decades I can assure you it's a completely different place.  The stories of guys opening Lenny's, etc.?  They wouldn't make it through Frosh year now.  The vast majority of these kids work damn hard today.

[GGGG]

There are examples, of course.  Do you ever look back and ask if you cheated yourself out of anything?  Not any particular class mind you, but rather the once in a lifetime opportunity?

I got a B in a Lit class that I attended once a week and never read any of the books.  The prof spoke so in detail about the readings that all I had to do was parrot for the mid-term and final.

It is one of the proudest moments of my college career.

[Dawson Rental]

This is not a race or gender issue. This is about the hazards that US citizens face when they go to a foreign country and commit a crime.  I had a friend from high school - white, middle class, female- who was given a five year sentence for possession of heroin in a European country. People need to know that their rights are not the same when they travel abroad.

I don't advocate for these men to be handed harsh punishment for what they did. But we have to understand that it's a risk.

I would, however, advocate that UCLA come up with a suitable punishment for these players - who knew what they were doing was wrong - bringing bad publicity and maybe even shame to the program and school. Likely won't happen; too many $$ in basketball.

I find it interesting that you leave Steve Alford off the list of those to be punished by UCLA.  It's his program, he's responsible for making sure that the players he recruits are of good character and that they are properly warned of the dangers of visiting a foreign county.  So, why leave him off?  Does that seem too severe to you?

[Galway Eagle]

What was your major?  In many MU classes attendance is mandatory and you will be dropped for excessive absences without prior notice.  For a class that meets twice per week, the allowed cap is four.  The majority of professors do take attendance and adhere to that standard, especially as an underclassman.  So Marquette generally does require one to go to class.

Physical Therapy

Jk it was marketing. I attended the classes I felt were truly valuable and would help but I don't feel cheated for choosing to celebrate a buddies bday instead of learning the anthro 1001

The only two I wish I had focused on were Econ and computer science but that's because I want to do analytics in grad school.

[Hards Alumni]

Yeah, that's pure BS and my kids would complain about that sometimes.  At $50k a year I expect professors to take educating their students seriously.

I took the class knowing it would be the easiest class I would ever take for credit.  With my major, the amount of electives was very low... The prof was right near the end of his career, but he was an absolute expert in his field... that said, he had been teaching this class for decades and had probably gotten quite lazy... even rumors of old tests flying around being used repeatedly year after year.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I was doing college wrong apparently. I cut the occasional class but went to probably 95% of them. And I was a comm major!

And while it may not be as much as it used to be,  MU is still a party school.  I didn't think so while I was there,  but then I went to other colleges.  A Marquette Tuesday makes a TAMU Friday look like a Bible study meeting

[jsglow]

I was doing college wrong apparently. I cut the occasional class but went to probably 95% of them. And I was a comm major!

And while it may not be as much as it used to be,  MU is still a party school.  I didn't think so while I was there,  but then I went to other colleges.  A Marquette Tuesday makes a TAMU Friday look like a Bible study meeting

They're good at multi-tasking.   

[jsglow]

Physical Therapy

Jk it was marketing. I attended the classes I felt were truly valuable and would help but I don't feel cheated for choosing to celebrate a buddies bday instead of learning the anthro 1001

The only two I wish I had focused on were Econ and computer science but that's because I want to do analytics in grad school.

Of course not.  I would say that's still true now.  I guess I was focused on those 'I showed up exactly once' type situations.   

[B. McBannerson]

Bullchit

Yup.  If I had to peg 5 people that would claim this was racist, he was the co-leader.  The kids admitted to doing this, yet it's racial?  Apparently it wasn't racial for the Georgia Tech kids since they didn't do it and are cleared, but let's not talk about that reality.   

[B. McBannerson]

Unless it's midterms or finals do you ever really need to go to class? I once literally forgot i was taking a class and aced the final to get a C, just saying 20 days that are standard classes won't kill them.

The paying for the hotel I️ completely agree with unless lavars footing the bill for his son to stay in a two bedroom with a pullout bed?

Had to attend, mandatory attendance taken.  My offspring at MU, also the case.   Miss too many classes, you fail.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Strategically save absent days for March.  Sleeping in class still counts as attendance, right? 

[Galway Eagle]

Had to attend, mandatory attendance taken.  My offspring at MU, also the case.   Miss too many classes, you fail.

It's at the professors discretion many said class was mandatory but didn't actually take attendance

[Lighthouse 84]

Totally depends on the class.  I attended exactly 3 History of Jazz classes.  First day, Midterm, Final.

Back in the day (early 80's), I took what was commonly known as "basketball physics", at the Varsity.  Like Hards, I attended three times.  Midterm and final were such that the prof allowed a half sheet of paper to be brought in, with as much as one could possibly write on both sides, to be used to aid in taking the exams.