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Next up: A long offseason

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Date/Time: Oct 4, 2025
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Schedule for 2024-25
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tower912

PG:   Howard, Elliot
SG:   Anim, Cheatham,
SF:  Hauser,  Bailey, Cain
PF:  Hauser, John, Morrow
C:  Heldt, Froling, Eke (likely RS, IMO)

Grimes would make that team better.  And I like the balance that adding another guard would bring.   But keep that group together after a year of growth and development?    I will take that right now and cannot wait. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Galway Eagle

#1
Sr Cheatham would be over Anim I think. I also imagine Morrow is above Joey.

I agree though that's a solid core right there, could almost do buzz's line changes with that line up.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

tower912

I wasn't actually ranking them in starting order, just the order they popped into my head.    You can mix and match any way you want and still have a solid 5 on the floor. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: tower912 on October 31, 2017, 10:12:22 AM
I wasn't actually ranking them in starting order, just the order they popped into my head.    You can mix and match any way you want and still have a solid 5 on the floor.

My bad!
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

tower912

Not really.   It is easy to see those 5 starting.     But it is equally easy to picture Anim starting at the 2, John starting at the 4, Froling at the 5, etc.     My overarching point is that, assuming they stick around and assuming development, the team is going to be loaded in 18-19.    And that while having Grimes would be awesome, there will still be an exciting season if he goes elsewhere.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

TheyWereCones

That team looks very exciting on paper, and even the next year we would hypothetically have everyone back but Cheatham and Heldt.  The year after could be even better.  But I'm getting way ahead of myself.
Those could have been guests at her wedding.

bilsu

C John
PF Morrow
SF Sam
SG Haanif
PG Howard

2 power rebounders with three scorers.

DCHoopster

Quote from: bilsu on October 31, 2017, 11:38:34 AM
C John
PF Morrow
SF Sam
SG Haanif
PG Howard

2 power rebounders with three scorers.

I would be very happy with that group, but the best is the group of subs as well.  Froling, Heldt, Hauser, Anim and Elliott and did not even mention Cain, practice
will be intense for sure.

tower912

Quote from: bilsu on October 31, 2017, 11:38:34 AM
C John
PF Morrow
SF Sam
SG Haanif
PG Howard

2 power rebounders with three scorers.
Or Harry, Morrow, Sam, Sacar, Howard.     I love the possibilities.    Honestly, the only ones I can feel comfortable projecting as starters in 18-19 are Markus and Sam.     Everything else is up for grabs.    And that is a good thing. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Herman Cain

Quote from: bilsu on October 31, 2017, 11:38:34 AM
C John
PF Morrow
SF Sam
SG Haanif
PG Howard

2 power rebounders with three scorers.
That is a 1970s style MU lineup.
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The Lens

We could also land the best plug and play grad transfer this spring.  We will be a much more attractive destination for a kid like Damion Lee who wants to move up and win on the big stage.
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JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Morrow gonna' play, and Morrow gonna' be good.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

Herman Cain

After he gets some experience, Ike is going to be an intimidating player. Really looking forward to seeing the young man develop.
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JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Herman Cain on October 31, 2017, 04:20:09 PM
After he gets some experience, Ike is going to be an intimidating player. Really looking forward to seeing the young man develop.

You've mentioned that once or twice, IIRC.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

jsglow

Quote from: Herman Cain on October 31, 2017, 04:20:09 PM
After he gets some experience, Ike is going to be an intimidating player. Really looking forward to seeing the young man develop.

Agreed.  Young man has only played ball for 4 years.  He's athletic and strong.  I really do believe he's a strong red shirt candidate next year if the Sacar experience turns out positive.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: jsglow on October 31, 2017, 04:29:14 PM
Agreed.  Young man has only played ball for 4 years.  He's athletic and strong.  I really do believe he's a strong red shirt candidate next year if the Sacar experience turns out positive.

I've decided healthy redshirting is dumb.  Probably a 50/50 chance Sacar bounces after his junior year to be a grad transfer.  Why wouldn't you?  Go spend a year somewhere warm and play some ball with some fresh faces.  Until they change the grad transfer rule, I just don't think redshirting makes much sense unless there extenuating circumstances (injury, illness, legitimately won't see floor, etc).
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: QuentinJamilJaeJamailJrJuan on October 31, 2017, 04:48:51 PM
I've decided healthy redshirting is dumb.  Probably a 50/50 chance Sacar bounces after his junior year to be a grad transfer.  Why wouldn't you?  Go spend a year somewhere warm and play some ball with some fresh faces.  Until they change the grad transfer rule, I just don't think redshirting makes much sense unless there extenuating circumstances (injury, illness, legitimately won't see floor, etc).

It's not even close to a 50/50 split for students who are grad transfer eligible who actually take advantage of it. Most stay with their programs. Why would you leave if you like where you are?
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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TheyWereCones

Quote from: QuentinJamilJaeJamailJrJuan on October 31, 2017, 04:48:51 PM
I've decided healthy redshirting is dumb.  Probably a 50/50 chance Sacar bounces after his junior year to be a grad transfer.  Why wouldn't you?  Go spend a year somewhere warm and play some ball with some fresh faces.  Until they change the grad transfer rule, I just don't think redshirting makes much sense unless there extenuating circumstances (injury, illness, legitimately won't see floor, etc).

You mean like Sacar last year and possibly Ike next year?
Those could have been guests at her wedding.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: TAMU Grimes on October 31, 2017, 04:51:36 PM
It's not even close to a 50/50 split for students who are grad transfer eligible who actually take advantage of it. Most stay with their programs. Why would you leave if you like where you are?

Partially hyperbole, but most guys who get a 5th year have already transferred at least once. With transfers today, it's tough to develop and groom and guy for 4 years and you nkt even get the benefit.

Quote from: TheyWereCones on October 31, 2017, 05:39:30 PM
You mean like Sacar last year and possibly Ike next year?

Sacar would have seen some time last year. A little early to say that about sophomore Eke. I suppose if you have 13 eligible scholarship players, go ahead in certain circumstances. But it can also burn you...that's all I'm saying. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

mubb3434

I am not seeing a scenario where Joey doesn't start...It's not everyday a talent like that with his height sits. Regardless, it's awesome that it's even a topic of conversation. I am very excited for the next couple of years. Would love to see a Howard, Grimes, Hauser, Hauser, John lineup with a lot of depth on the bench.

tower912

Bump.  Time to focus on what MU has.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

fjm


DCHoopster

Quote from: mubb3434 on October 31, 2017, 06:26:17 PM
I am not seeing a scenario where Joey doesn't start...It's not everyday a talent like that with his height sits. Regardless, it's awesome that it's even a topic of conversation. I am very excited for the next couple of years. Would love to see a Howard, Grimes, Hauser, Hauser, John lineup with a lot of depth on the bench.

I do not see why you think he will start.  Plays much like Sam, not quick off his feet.  I see a center (Heldt, Froling or John), then I see Morrow who is built like a tank,
and really will be a 4th year senior, then I see Sam, he is not sitting and then 2 guards.  Joey will be first player off the bench at either forward spots and will play 20-25 minutes.  Very experienced time, Joey will have to wait his turn.

There is 1 possibility, if Morrow starts at Center.  But in practice he is not working there.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: DCHoopster on November 01, 2017, 01:55:36 PM
I do not see why you think he will start.  Plays much like Sam, not quick off his feet.  I see a center (Heldt, Froling or John), then I see Morrow who is built like a tank,
and really will be a 4th year senior, then I see Sam, he is not sitting and then 2 guards.  Joey will be first player off the bench at either forward spots and will play 20-25 minutes.  Very experienced time, Joey will have to wait his turn.

There is 1 possibility, if Morrow starts at Center.  But in practice he is not working there.

Morrow transferred from Nebraska because he didn't want to play the 5.  I suspect he'll see a little time there when MU goes small, but he is primarily going to play the 4, and maybe even a little SF.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

MU82

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 01, 2017, 03:45:01 PM
Morrow transferred from Nebraska because he didn't want to play the 5.  I suspect he'll see a little time there when MU goes small, but he is primarily going to play the 4, and maybe even a little SF.

And McKay transferred from MU because he didn't want to play the 5. So he went to Iowa State ... where he played the 5.

You tell the kid, "I fully intended to play you at the 4 but stuff happened, and everybody in the program really appreciates you being the great team player and leader you are!"

Not saying that will happen with Morrow at MU, but it's happened before countless times at programs from sea to shining sea, and it will happen again.
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