Pomeroy preseason projection are out

[Eye]

Has MU at 16-12, 8-10. Does not include final 2 games in Maui with opponents not known yet.

[DJO's Jaw]

7 Big East teams in the Top 50, and St. John's at 51. The Big East will be a slugfest again this year.

[cheese ball chaser]

Link? Or is it premium subscribers only?

[Tugg Speedman]

2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Rankings - Preseason (Oct. 22)
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings

6. Villanova
17. Xavier
23. Seton Hall

Others receiving votes

Butler 43
Providence 21
Creighton 6

[PGsHeroes32]

Creighton got slugged by Minny today

[Silkk the Shaka]

Link? Or is it premium subscribers only?

kenpom.com

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Creighton got slugged by Minny today

Minny is legit.... Creighton,  it depends on if they find a point guard

[Galway Eagle]

Minny is legit.... Creighton,  it depends on if they find a point guard

They could end up having a year like we got stuck with buzz's last year.

[MUDPT]

VCU got beat by liberty by 16. That game looking more and more winnable.

[Galway Eagle]

VCU got beat by liberty by 16. That game looking more and more winnable.

Was Magic Dawson playing?

[naginiF]

Was Magic Dawson playing?

He's either not on the roster, was a DNP for the game, or has changed his name to Talbert and led the team in scoring:

Liberty — Baxter-Bell 5, Cabbil 5, Kemrite 14, Pacheco-Ortiz 8, Talbert 23, Cuffee 2, Williams 7, Hicks 0, Farquhar 0, McDowell 8, James 8, Hiepler 0, Newton 5. Totals 25 24-28 85.

[Bocephys]

He's either not on the roster, was a DNP for the game, or has changed his name to Talbert and led the team in scoring:

Liberty — Baxter-Bell 5, Cabbil 5, Kemrite 14, Pacheco-Ortiz 8, Talbert 23, Cuffee 2, Williams 7, Hicks 0, Farquhar 0, McDowell 8, James 8, Hiepler 0, Newton 5. Totals 25 24-28 85.

Classic Magic, going from John --> Magic --> Talbert and no one bats an eyelash!

[LoudMouth]

VCU got beat by liberty by 16. That game looking more and more winnable.

It makes me feel a bit more confident for the VCU game because they lost by getting destroyed from beyond the arc. Bodes well for us.
Link from the VCU athletics page
http://www.vcuathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2017-18/releases/20171026xoya9m

[Litehouse]

Was Magic Dawson playing?

He graduated last year.
https://www.liberty.edu/flames/index.cfm?pid=36960&TeamID=6&RosterID=10694

[Dawson Rental]

VCU got beat by liberty by 16. That game looking more and more winnable.

lol  If we can't win that game, we're looking at bottom two in the Big East.  See the Cracked Sidewalks preseason perdictions thread for details.

[Dawson Rental]

Creighton got slugged by Minny today

Didn't know that the season had started.   

[muwarrior69]

It makes me feel a bit more confident for the VCU game because they lost by getting destroyed from beyond the arc. Bodes well for us.
Link from the VCU athletics page
http://www.vcuathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2017-18/releases/20171026xoya9m

I hope we are not that one dimensional and can also score in the paint. If we are just a 3pt team we are done for.

[OhioGoldenEagle]

I hope we are not that one dimensional and can also score in the paint. If we are just a 3pt team we are done for.

I don't totally agree with this notion.  Sure the "Live by the 3, Die by the 3" notion applies, however we often see very good 3 pt shooting teams have good seasons.  In fairly recent MU history, I recall the 'Zar/Acker/Cubillan team win many more games than anyone expected by jacking (and hitting) a high number of 3 balls.  Food for thought.

Side note:  Theo could be very capable at cleaning up missed 3's.  Could tilt games dramatically.

[Galway Eagle]

I don't totally agree with this notion.  Sure the "Live by the 3, Die by the 3" notion applies, however we often see very good 3 pt shooting teams have good seasons.  In fairly recent MU history, I recall the 'Zar/Acker/Cubillan team win many more games than anyone expected by jacking (and hitting) a high number of 3 balls.  Food for thought.

Side note:  Theo could be very capable at cleaning up missed 3's.  Could tilt games dramatically.

That team played defense though

[brewcity77]

Side note:  Theo could be very capable at cleaning up missed 3's.  Could tilt games dramatically.

I actually think Cain is better suited for for that. Long misses lead to long rebounds. Cain's athleticism, length, and expected position on the wing most likely puts him in better natural position to clean up those misses than a low post banger like John.

[LoudMouth]

I hope we are not that one dimensional and can also score in the paint. If we are just a 3pt team we are done for.

Villanova won a National Championship by living and dying by the 3. They had inside presence but most of their production was from deep. Granted they have "died" every other year with early exits but it worked for them once.

[rocket surgeon]

I don't totally agree with this notion.  Sure the "Live by the 3, Die by the 3" notion applies, however we often see very good 3 pt shooting teams have good seasons.  In fairly recent MU history, I recall the 'Zar/Acker/Cubillan team win many more games than anyone expected by jacking (and hitting) a high number of 3 balls.  Food for thought.

Side note:  Theo could be very capable at cleaning up missed 3's.  Could tilt games dramatically.

Yes sir and the key component to your post is 3 shooters. I believe we have 3 even better 3 point shooters in rouse house and that formerly 17 year old kid. We haven't seen much of the newbies, but don't be surprised if there are more.  Long misses tend to become long rebounds...shoot till ya win, eye,naahhhh?

[OhioGoldenEagle]

I actually think Cain is better suited for for that. Long misses lead to long rebounds. Cain's athleticism, length, and expected position on the wing most likely puts him in better natural position to clean up those misses than a low post banger like John.

Don't disagree on Cain's potential.  Question is, how much PT will he receive this year?  Theo looks like he is ready to play today, Cain, I'm not so sure.

[Class71]

I hope we are not that one dimensional and can also score in the paint. If we are just a 3pt team we are done for.

Agree fully. Also if we are not scrappy on"D" and have jumps on rebounding ... Al will be rolling over and we will be in for a very, very long season again.

[brewcity77]

Don't disagree on Cain's potential.  Question is, how much PT will he receive this year?  Theo looks like he is ready to play today, Cain, I'm not so sure.

I expect Theo to play more this year, I just don't think he'll be as helpful on three point rebounds.