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tower912

I fear there is not much left in the tank.  This is clearly loading up for one last shot at GS.  Will Wade be able to guard anyone in June.   I understand what Cleveland is trying to do, but I don't see that this tips the balance. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Lens

This team is going to be a pain in the a$$ during the 2011 playoffs.
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

jsglow

Quote from: The Lens on September 28, 2017, 08:00:40 AM
This team is going to be a pain in the a$$ during the 2011 playoffs.

It'll be interesting to see how much Dwayne plays.  It's all about one last year in the league spending it with his best friend.  There was nothing left for him in Chicago.

Golden Avalanche

If Cleveland signed a player named Abba Cabba who got 18, 4, 4 last year on 43% shooting, people would be praising their ability to stack another option for when they play Golden State in the Finals. We'd be excited, rather then bored, to anticipate a fourth straight matchup next June.

But that player is Wade and people shrug about the addition. Strange.

wadesworld

Quote from: Golden Avalanche on September 28, 2017, 09:13:25 AM
If Cleveland signed a player named Abba Cabba who got 18, 4, 4 last year on 43% shooting, people would be praising their ability to stack another option for when they play Golden State in the Finals. We'd be excited, rather then bored, to anticipate a fourth straight matchup next June.

But that player is Wade and people shrug about the addition. Strange.

If Abba Cabba's body had started to break down at the age of 30 and he was 36 years old now, I'm not sure how exciting it is with a poor 43% shooting/45% eFG%.  Playing in 59 games isn't overly exciting.

MU82

Quote from: QuentinsWorld on September 28, 2017, 09:21:57 AM
If Abba Cabba's body had started to break down at the age of 30 and he was 36 years old now, I'm not sure how exciting it is with a poor 43% shooting/45% eFG%.  Playing in 59 games isn't overly exciting.

They don't need Wade for 59 games or even 40 games. If he is healthy going into the playoffs, he will help the Cavs. Will it be enough to get them into the Finals again? Quite possible. Will it be enough to help them beat the Warriors? Almost surely not. There was not a single player they could realistically acquire who would be able to do that.

Wade at less than $3M is the ultimate low-risk, maybe-big-reward play.
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Eldon

IMO, the most important aspect of Wade on the Cavs is the locker room chemistry that he brings, since he is personal friends with LeBron. 

I have read stuff that said players don't play with LeBron, they play for him.  LeBron seems to have had trouble respecting coaches.  I think he respects Wade, as does the rest of the team.  And I think Wade can serve as a type of unofficial coach. 

WarriorFan

Wade is capable of 20/5/5  for a 20 game stretch when it matters.
That's all they need.
The first 60+ games are a warm up.
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wadesworld

Quote from: MU82 on September 28, 2017, 09:26:52 AM
They don't need Wade for 59 games or even 40 games. If he is healthy going into the playoffs, he will help the Cavs. Will it be enough to get them into the Finals again? Quite possible. Will it be enough to help them beat the Warriors? Almost surely not. There was not a single player they could realistically acquire who would be able to do that.

Wade at less than $3M is the ultimate low-risk, maybe-big-reward play.

I don't think Wade makes any difference on the court for the Cavs, which is why I don't think people are excited about the signing whether his name is Dwyane Wade or Abba Cabba.  The Cavs were going to lose in the Finals to the Warriors for the 2nd straight year regardless of whether Dwyane Wade had that roster spot or I had that roster spot.

Quote from: Eldon on September 28, 2017, 09:33:35 AM
IMO, the most important aspect of Wade on the Cavs is the locker room chemistry that he brings, since he is personal friends with LeBron. 

I have read stuff that said players don't play with LeBron, they play for him.  LeBron seems to have had trouble respecting coaches.  I think he respects Wade, as does the rest of the team.  And I think Wade can serve as a type of unofficial coach. 

I don't think a lot of guys who have played with Wade are his biggest fan anymore.

NickelDimer

I'll be rooting for the Cavs. That would make for one hell of a story
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Herman Cain

Cavs have two MU guys on the team so by default they are tied with Detroit for the team I care most about in the NBA.

Wade will be an important factor comes the playoffs. Also I believe the league has done some things with the schedule to eliminate many of the back to back games so Wade may play more than expected during the regular season.

Wade has a very high basketball IQ and has chemistry with Lebron therefore as long as he is healthy he will make a major contribution. 
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Galway Eagle

Quote from: Herman Cain on September 28, 2017, 02:02:32 PM
Cavs have two MU guys on the team so by default they are tied with Detroit for the team I care most about in the NBA.

Wade will be an important factor comes the playoffs. Also I believe the league has done some things with the schedule to eliminate many of the back to back games so Wade may play more than expected during the regular season.

Wade has a very high basketball IQ and has chemistry with Lebron therefore as long as he is healthy he will make a major contribution.

Is assistant coach not part of the team? That's low bro
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Markusquette

Quote from: tower912 on September 28, 2017, 05:03:40 AM
I fear there is not much left in the tank.  This is clearly loading up for one last shot at GS.  Will Wade be able to guard anyone in June.   I understand what Cleveland is trying to do, but I don't see that this tips the balance.

D Wade's still got it.  Not like he used to of course, but he's still a star.

Spotcheck Billy

The Cavs won't be able to rest Wade when healthy with today's new rules (at least in road games).

Wade for President

Are some of you guys serious?  You don't think DWade will have an (major) impact with the Cavs?  Many people who have seen him this summer, say that he's in great shape.  A healthy (as healthy as a 35 yr old with the mileage he has) and motivated DWade, on a team where he doesn't have to be the focal point of the offense, is a huge addition for the Cavs.  His supreme bball IQ will help overcome any physical shortcomings.

As a few posted, they don't need Wade to go all out for 82 games.  They'll lean on him for his playoff experience, defense, and leadership (both on and off the court).

Never was a Cavs fan, but with two of MU's grittiest ballers on the roster, I have no choice but to pull for CLE.

MU B2002

Quote from: Eldon on September 28, 2017, 09:33:35 AM
IMO, the most important aspect of Wade on the Cavs is the locker room chemistry that he brings, since he is personal friends with LeBron. 

I have read stuff that said players don't play with LeBron, they play for him.  LeBron seems to have had trouble respecting coaches.  I think he respects Wade, as does the rest of the team.  And I think Wade can serve as a type of unofficial coach.


Which is interesting because the reports out of Chicago were that Wade did very little to help develop younger players (outside of Jimmy) and the team had some bad chemistry issues.  Now granted much of the problem is the team that Gar-Pax assembled, and lack of respect for the coach.
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Wade for President on September 29, 2017, 08:22:04 AM
Are some of you guys serious?  You don't think DWade will have an (major) impact with the Cavs?  Many people who have seen him this summer, say that he's in great shape.  A healthy (as healthy as a 35 yr old with the mileage he has) and motivated DWade, on a team where he doesn't have to be the focal point of the offense, is a huge addition for the Cavs.  His supreme bball IQ will help overcome any physical shortcomings.

As a few posted, they don't need Wade to go all out for 82 games.  They'll lean on him for his playoff experience, defense, and leadership (both on and off the court).

Never was a Cavs fan, but with two of MU's grittiest ballers on the roster, I have no choice but to pull for CLE.

I don't think people think he won't have a major impact, it's just that fair or not, the bar for any team with James on it is whether or not they can win the national championship. And the reality is that barring injuries, no one is beating Golden State in a best of 7 series.
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Galway Eagle

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on September 29, 2017, 08:51:49 AM
I don't think people think he won't have a major impact, it's just that fair or not, the bar for any team with James on it is whether or not they can win the national championship. And the reality is that barring injuries, no one is beating Golden State in a best of 7 series.

Toronto might want to have that name changed to NBA championship
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DienerTime34

What's that country song ... I'm not as good as I once was, but I'm as good once as I ever was? Something like that. Anyways, a lot of over analysis here. If Wade can help tip the scales from a loss to a victory in a single Finals game, it will be a great move for the Cavs. What does it matter - at all - what his regular season contribution is? The NBA Playoffs are an entirely different animal.

The Lens

D Wade's main gig is going to be ordering the right Barolo if LeBron is in the restroom.  CLE has continued to surround LBJ with old, aging vets.  That might make for fun team dinners but until they get an athletic wing who can check, they're toast when it counts. 
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History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

StillAWarrior

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on September 29, 2017, 08:51:49 AM
I don't think people think he won't have a major impact, it's just that fair or not, the bar for any team with James on it is whether or not they can win the national championship. And the reality is that barring injuries, no one is beating Golden State in a best of 7 series.

As a Cavs fan, I agree with this analysis.
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tower912

Quote from: The Lens on September 29, 2017, 09:12:50 AM
D Wade's main gig is going to be ordering the right Barolo if LeBron is in the restroom.  CLE has continued to surround LBJ with old, aging vets.  That might make for fun team dinners but until they get an athletic wing who can check, they're toast when it counts.

I thought that was Crowder.     If, and I mean IF Cleveland can get to the finals with Rose and Wade healthy and relatively rested, they may be able to flip a game.    But neither plays much defense and GS is going to run circles around them.    Now IF they are healthy, rested, and playing to their career best on defense too, they could tip the scales.    But that is an awful lot of miles and injuries to count on in June. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Dr. Blackheart

Wade will be what Ray Allen was for the Heat.

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Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on September 29, 2017, 09:39:40 AM
Wade will be what Ray Allen was for the Heat.

Not sure if it's wise to use Wade as a corner 3 pt shooter.

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