Wall Street Journal College Rankings

[Herman Cain]

We are 158th again this year tied with Stonehill.

We need a Management and Board change ASAP. Their plan to make the school Chicago State north is a disaster.

This poll ,and the continuing down draft in the US News ranking , is going to eventually have major financial repercussions . People with money will not send their kids to a school with a fading pedigree .

[Silkk the Shaka]

Seek help

[Galway Eagle]

That puts us in the 96th percentile. I'd like us to be higher and feel we are especially with the pedigree our PT and nursing programs have but 96th percent isn't a joke.

[Tugg Speedman]

MU is #4 in The Big East (GU, VU, CU, MU, But, X, Proc, Dep, SH)  #2 to #5 in the BE are clustered fairly close.

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Madison #71, barely beating Grinnell #75

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Other Schools of interest

Georgetown #31
Vilanova #120
Creighton #134
IU #138
Cal-Irvine #139
Iowa #145
Pepperdine #155
MU #158
Butler #174
Boulder #174
Arizona #179
Drake #184
Loyola-Chicago #194
Fordham #212
Xavier #220
Gonzaga #233
Providence #239
Florida State #255
Oklahoma #255
Kansas #262
South Carolina #268
George Mason #274
Depaul #281
Oregon #286
Iowa State #292
Seton Hall #292
Miami of Ohio #312
Tennessee #312
Utah #312
Ole Miss #328
SIU #338
Kansas State #355
MSOE #375
Citadel #377
West Virginia #377
School of the Art Institute of Chicago #384
Illinois State #393
Louisville #406
James Madison #409
Okla State #413
Arkansas #437
LSU #443
Alabama #464
Nebraska #467
Texas Tech #495

[Tugg Speedman]

Below is MU's detail.  Resource and Environment dragged them down.  In reading the methodology is the answer to hire a lot more non-traditional faculty?

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MU score on this survey
Overall score 63.2/100
Outcome score 26.8/40 (rank #112)
Resource score 15.4/20 (rank #309)
Engagement score 17.1/20 (rank 72)
Environment score 3.9/10 (rank 670)

Methodology

Outcomes (40%)
Does the college generate good and appropriate outputs? Does it add value to the students who attend? The Outcomes area represents 40 percent of the overall ranking. Within this we look at:

Graduation rate (11%)
Value added to graduate salary (12%)
Value added to loan default (7%)
Academic reputation (10%)

Resource Score (30%)
Does the college have the capacity to effectively deliver teaching? The Resources area represents 30 percent of the overall ranking. Within this we look at:

Finance per student (11%)
Faculty per student (11%)
Research papers per faculty (8%)


Engagement (20%)
Does the college effectively engage with its students? Most of the data in this area is gathered through THE US Student Survey. The Engagement area represents 20 percent of the overall ranking. Within this we look at:

Student engagement (7%)
Student recommendation (6%)
Interaction with teachers and students (4%)
Number of accredited programmes (3%)

Environment (10%)
Is the college providing a learning environment for all students? Does it make efforts to attract a diverse student body and faculty? The Environment area represents 10 percent of the overall ranking. Within this we look at:

Proportion of international students (2%)
Student diversity (3%)
Student inclusion (2%)
Staff diversity (3%) 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Wait a minute. MUFINY is saying Marquette's a disaster because of the low WSJ ranking.....but what's bringing us down is "Proportion of international students, Student diversity,student inclusion, Staff diversity"? MUFINY is the one who's been going on and on about how Marquette needs to stop recruiting diverse students!

[Disco Hippie]

Frustrating to lag CU in the BE but given the WSJ methodology I don't think MU fared poorly on this at all.  Quite a few schools that were ahead of us on US News' National University ranking this year are ranked considerably lower than Marquette here.  Obviously it would be better to be ranked higher but all things considered not so terrible.

[4everwarriors]

Rankin' matta a hole bunch, ai na?

[Herman Cain]

Wait a minute. MUFINY is saying Marquette's a disaster because of the low WSJ ranking.....but what's bringing us down is "Proportion of international students, Student diversity,student inclusion, Staff diversity"? MUFINY is the one who's been going on and on about how Marquette needs to stop recruiting diverse students!

The problem is we have no smart Asians , because we are dumbing down the grades and test scores. Asians are very brand conscious consumers of education.   If we put the standard up presto we get boffo marks on this score and have the stream of Asians necessary to compete not only on this ranking but USNews.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

The problem is we have no smart Asians , because we are dumbing down the grades and test scores. Asians are very brand conscious consumers of education.   If we put the standard up presto we get boffo marks on this score and have the stream of Asians necessary to compete not only on this ranking but USNews.

[Hards Alumni]

The problem is we have no smart Asians , because we are dumbing down the grades and test scores. Asians are very brand conscious consumers of education.   If we put the standard up presto we get boffo marks on this score and have the stream of Asians necessary to compete not only on this ranking but USNews.

I'm going to assume you were trying to be sarcastic and make a joke; instead of doing your best Reggie White impression.

Probably a bad assumption, but consider this your 'out'.

[GooooMarquette]

#166 - Colorado School of Mines - Golden, Connecticut.

Oops!

[reinko]

The problem is we have no smart Asians , because we are dumbing down the grades and test scores. Asians are very brand conscious consumers of education.   If we put the standard up presto we get boffo marks on this score and have the stream of Asians necessary to compete not only on this ranking but USNews.

Wow, didn't know Peter Griffin visited this board.

[4everwarriors]

Oh boi, here wee go, ai na?