Marquette's Experience Outlook - 2017-18 & 2018-19

[Jay Bee]

Some discussion in other threads about experience... this past year we had a mix of really old and really young guys getting minutes... 1.67 experience per KenPom, ranking us #192 among 351 teams.

You can play around with minutes all day, but one set of assumptions that I think is within the realm of reality comes out to the following:

2017-18: 1.24 (would have placed us around #308 in the nation last season)
2018-19: 1.66 (back to around where we were this past year)

The 2018-19 assumptions include 32 minutes per game for freshmen. If you allocated 20 of those minutes to a junior instead, the 1.66 jumps to 1.86 or to about ~120.

If things hold together, 2019-20 could be a year when we're fairly experienced compared to all of college bball... but, you're going to see a very young team this season, and probably a middle-of-the-pack experienced team the following year.

FWIW, of the top 50 experienced D-I teams last year, only 2 of them were 'Power Six' teams who made the tourney (Iowa State and Arkansas).

[fjm]

Some discussion in other threads about experience... this past year we had a mix of really old and really young guys getting minutes... 1.67 experience per KenPom, ranking us #192 among 351 teams.

You can play around with minutes all day, but one set of assumptions that I think is within the realm of reality comes out to the following:

2017-18: 1.24 (would have placed us around #308 in the nation last season)
2018-19: 1.66 (back to around where we were this past year)

The 2018-19 assumptions include 32 minutes per game for freshmen. If you allocated 20 of those minutes to a junior instead, the 1.66 jumps to 1.86 or to about ~120.

If things hold together, 2019-20 could be a year when we're fairly experienced compared to all of college bball... but, you're going to see a very young team this season, and probably a middle-of-the-pack experienced team the following year.

FWIW, of the top 50 experienced D-I teams last year, only 2 of them were 'Power Six' teams who made the tourney (Iowa State and Arkansas).

Awesome JB! Completely appreciate the post. This year, again crazy low and in the 300's for experience. That's both bad and great news.

[Nukem2]

Yes, this will be a very youngish team built around Rowsey and Haani with the most experience and with Sam and Markus having a full year under their belts.  After that, there is precious little to zero collegiate on-court experience on hand.  Don't even need any enhanced stats to tell us that.... 

[Dr. Blackheart]

Yes, this will be a very youngish team built around Rowsey and Haani with the most experience and with Sam and Markus having a full year under their belts.  After that, there is precious little to zero collegiate on-court experience on hand.  Don't even need any enhanced stats to tell us that.... 

Matt and Harry are forgotten souls

[Nukem2]

Matt and Harry are forgotten souls

Not really.  Matt had a few games down the stretch, but otherwise not much true experience and Harry played minor minutes while he was rather chubby at SMU.

[muguru]

Some discussion in other threads about experience... this past year we had a mix of really old and really young guys getting minutes... 1.67 experience per KenPom, ranking us #192 among 351 teams.

You can play around with minutes all day, but one set of assumptions that I think is within the realm of reality comes out to the following:

2017-18: 1.24 (would have placed us around #308 in the nation last season)
2018-19: 1.66 (back to around where we were this past year)

The 2018-19 assumptions include 32 minutes per game for freshmen. If you allocated 20 of those minutes to a junior instead, the 1.66 jumps to 1.86 or to about ~120.

If things hold together, 2019-20 could be a year when we're fairly experienced compared to all of college bball... but, you're going to see a very young team this season, and probably a middle-of-the-pack experienced team the following year.

FWIW, of the top 50 experienced D-I teams last year, only 2 of them were 'Power Six' teams who made the tourney (Iowa State and Arkansas).

Minutes/experience is one thing, but how "talented" will those minutes be?? Outside of Markus, Sam and Harry(I really like him) for '18-'19, can this Freshman class take a HUGE jump as Sophomores?? That may be what is needed for MU to be top 15 like some believe.

[Dawson Rental]

Not really.  Matt had a few games down the stretch, but otherwise not much true experience and Harry played minor minutes while he was rather chubby at SMU.

What's experience?  Just game experience, as you imply, or experience being part of a Division I program, developing your body, your skills and practice experience?

[Nukem2]

What's experience?  Just game experience, as you imply, or experience being part of a Division I program, developing your body, your skills and practice experience?

Obviously game experience in the system.  Harry has none and just a handful as a sub at SMU.  Sacar had limited minutes at the 4 as a frosh with virtually no meaningful minutes and will now be playing on the wing.

[hdog1017]

I have them outlooked for a positive experience.