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MUMountin

Quote from: The Lens on April 25, 2017, 08:03:48 AM
Hopefully Vander's curious decision to stay stateside will pay off when retires and helps him go into scouting or coaching.  Certainly he's made a lot of contacts.

What sort of salary could he fetch in the overseas leagues?  I don't know much about how they pay.

Newsdreams

Quote from: MUMountin on April 25, 2017, 11:27:32 AM
What sort of salary could he fetch in the overseas leagues?  I don't know much about how they pay.
It varies a lot. But Down here he could plrobably make close to 60K plus car and apartment for 3 -4 months of basketball. In D1 Europe an ex NBA like Carlos Arroyo was making close to 2 million.
I bet he could get close to 100,000 somewhere
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

warriorchick

Quote from: Newsdrms on April 25, 2017, 11:40:26 AM
It varies a lot. But Down here he could plrobably make close to 60K plus car and apartment for 3 -4 months of basketball. In D1 Europe an ex NBA like Carlos Arroyo was making close to 2 million.
I bet he could get close to 100,000 somewhere

Hate to point it out to you Newsie, but where you are is still 'Murica.   ;)
Have some patience, FFS.

Newsdreams

Quote from: warriorchick on April 25, 2017, 11:50:03 AM
Hate to point it out to you Newsie, but where you are is still 'Murica.   ;)
For travel and some commerce yes, for sports we are considered international. If you are born here you can represent US or PR but once you represent one can't go back to the other. All sports federations are independent of US.   
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

warriorchick

Quote from: Newsdrms on April 25, 2017, 02:10:20 PM
For travel and some commerce yes, for sports we are considered international. If you are born here you can represent US or PR but once you represent one can't go back to the other. All sports federations are independent of US.

I know, I was just teasing you.

On a related note, you could probably make some decent cash adopting a kid who isn't good enough in his sport to make the U.S. Olympic team, but is better than anyone in PR.   :D
Have some patience, FFS.

Newsdreams

Quote from: warriorchick on April 25, 2017, 02:13:02 PM
I know, I was just teasing you.

On a related note, you could probably make some decent cash adopting a kid who isn't good enough in his sport to make the U.S. Olympic team, but is better than anyone in PR.   :D
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Quote from: The Lens on April 25, 2017, 08:03:48 AM
Hopefully Vander's curious decision to stay stateside will pay off when retires and helps him go into scouting or coaching.  Certainly he's made a lot of contacts.
Vander had valid reasons for staying in the D League. He wants to play in the NBA , and he also had his taste of foreign ball .  Some people make choices based on other considerations than money.

I am sure if it doesn't happen in the next couple years for Vander he will go to a higher paying international league that actually pays. Some of the international teams stiff the players .
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Is that former MU cager Ron Howard on the list of d-league mvps?!?!?
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GGGG

Quote from: herboturbo on April 25, 2017, 03:31:07 PM
Is that former MU cager Ron Howard on the list of d-league mvps?!?!?

Yes.  Never made the NBA.

brewcity77

Quote from: herboturbo on April 25, 2017, 03:31:07 PM
Is that former MU cager Ron Howard on the list of d-league mvps?!?!?

No, it's the redhead kid that played Opie Cunningham on The Andy Griffith Show. Surprisingly good basketball player for a short, 63 year old guy that's better known for Happy Days.

Herman Cain

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GooooMarquette

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Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on April 25, 2017, 02:21:24 PM

Vander had valid reasons for staying in the D League. He wants to play in the NBA , and he also had his taste of foreign ball .  Some people make choices based on other considerations than money.

I am sure if it doesn't happen in the next couple years for Vander he will go to a higher paying international league that actually pays. Some of the international teams stiff the players .


Not sure he really gave foreign ball a fair shot.  Since leaving MU, he has played a grand total of 8 games overseas (7 in Israel, 1 in China).  I hope he gets his shot in the NBA...but if it doesn't happen soon and he doesn't head overseas, he's going to wish he had his degree.  Vacations last longer than his overseas stints.

Lennys Tap


Goose

Lenny
Nice post. Vander is disliked by many on here and I doubt that is changing anytime soon.

The Lens

Quote from: GooooMarquette on April 25, 2017, 09:19:37 PM
Not sure he really gave foreign ball a fair shot.  Since leaving MU, he has played a grand total of 8 games overseas (7 in Israel, 1 in China).  I hope he gets his shot in the NBA...but if it doesn't happen soon and he doesn't head overseas, he's going to wish he had his degree.  Vacations last longer than his overseas stints.

He can still get his degree.  He's probably 3 semesters away.  He's got plenty of time.
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warriorchick

Quote from: The Lens on April 26, 2017, 08:31:39 AM
He can still get his degree.  He's probably 3 semesters away.  He's got plenty of time.

Given his enthusiasm for his studies while he was at Marquette, I am hopeful, but not optimistic.

It takes a lot of effort to finish up 40% of your degree when you are trying to hold down a full-time job even if you really like school.
Have some patience, FFS.

Goose

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Lenny,

What really cracks about the Vander dislike is the double standard folks have on the topic. IMO, if Vander was guilty of a crime and MU covered it up, shame on both of them. A faction on here fully believe that Vander is guilty and dislike him a great deal for it and I get that completely. If that is the case and MU covered it up they are equally as guilty, IMO. If he was guilty he should not have been allowed to remain at MU or play ball.

If the cover up to was protect the University, I fully get it and can not argue that decision to some degree. If that was the case, VB never should have stepped foot on the BC court again as a member of the MU basketball team. So, either he is innocent and life goes on or both MU and Vander are at big time fault.

Many on here bleed MU 24/7 and never could acknowledge wrongdoing by the University. I really do not know where the truth lies and have taken MU for it's word. They checked things out and allowed VB to remain on the team. If that is not the case, shame on MU for extremely poor handling of a serious issue.

All that said, congrats Vander!!!!

Dr. Blackheart

Vander's legal offenses were very public and he paid his fines and university punishment.

JWags85

Quote from: warriorchick on April 26, 2017, 08:54:01 AM
Given his enthusiasm for his studies while he was at Marquette, I am hopeful, but not optimistic.

It takes a lot of effort to finish up 40% of your degree when you are trying to hold down a full-time job even if you really like school.

Not speaking on Vander specifically, and finishing up school is no easy task, but reading interviews and such with professional athletes, especially younger athletes, they often talk about an adjustment being how much free time you have.  When you were in college, you had class and study tables and whatnot, in addition to practice and travel.  When you get to a professional level, its just your practices and games and film.  Its easier to do it in the offseason where you have more time to focus, but its a bit different than working a 9-5 and trying to finish school as well.

The Lens

A) He could take a lower entry college job and work towards his degree while coaching
B) Scooper don't like Vander because he left us early and it didn't work out for him or us.  What if I said I hate Dwyane Wade because he led us to the 2004 NIT?  Both guys left after 3 years.  If you get a Top 40 recruit to stay for 3 years, that's a good deal.  He made a questionable choice.  Let it go.  He also made a lay up vs Davidson, pretty sure you enjoyed that decision.
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Goose on April 26, 2017, 10:51:31 AM
Lenny,

What really cracks about the Vander dislike is the double standard folks have on the topic. IMO, if Vander was guilty of a crime and MU covered it up, shame on both of them. A faction on here fully believe that Vander is guilty and dislike him a great deal for it and I get that completely. If that is the case and MU covered it up they are equally as guilty, IMO. If he was guilty he should not have been allowed to remain at MU or play ball.

If the cover up to was protect the University, I fully get it and can not argue that decision to some degree. If that was the case, VB never should have stepped foot on the BC court again as a member of the MU basketball team. So, either he is innocent and life goes on or both MU and Vander are at big time fault.

Many on here bleed MU 24/7 and never could acknowledge wrongdoing by the University. I really do not know where the truth lies and have taken MU for it's word. They checked things out and allowed VB to remain on the team. If that is not the case, shame on MU for extremely poor handling of a serious issue.

All that said, congrats Vander!!!!

Goose,

The only offense that I recall seeing evidence of regarding Vander was the incident where he popped the moron who was taunting him with the "Vander Orange" nonsense.

Goose

Lenny

I agree, but think the incident with old girlfriend is the driving force behind the dislike and what I was referring to.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on April 26, 2017, 10:55:50 AM
Vander's legal offenses were very public and he paid his fines and university punishment.

This is where I'm at.  I see students found responsible for worse who are allowed to continue their education on the daily. Methinks if Blue hadn't left early,  there would be less naysayers
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


GGGG

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 26, 2017, 01:09:34 PM
This is where I'm at.  I see students found responsible for worse who are allowed to continue their education on the daily. Methinks if Blue hadn't left early,  there would be less naysayers


Or scored more points early in his career.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 26, 2017, 01:09:34 PM
This is where I'm at.  I see students found responsible for worse who are allowed to continue their education on the daily. Methinks if Blue hadn't left early,  there would be less naysayers

Hell other members of the basketball team did much worse and were allowed to continue.
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